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"Net Neutrality" - Government Promises to Control the Internet
Center for Individual Freedom ^ | April 2, '09

Posted on 04/04/2009 3:53:55 PM PDT by T.L.Sink

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To: Zack Attack

Thanks - I’ll check it out.


61 posted on 04/05/2009 8:26:04 AM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: HotLead61; Star Traveler

HotlLead, I think you’re absolutely right. Obama’s “tax cut” was not just a campaign scam but it’s a fiscal IMPOSSIBILITY! Heritage recently announced that Obama’s budget creates $9.6 trillion in NEW debt; it will raise taxes by $1.4 trillion and creates a record $63,000 in debt per household. This isn’t a debatable or partisan point. Even Obama’s spin can’t disguise the fact that math doesn’t lie and that two plus two still equal four.


62 posted on 04/05/2009 8:58:04 AM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: Zack Attack; BobbyT; T.L.Sink; HotLead61; KoRn; OH4life; Quix; TaraP; Jo Nuvark; Swordmaker

Yep, good information. I would think that everyone on Free Republic should be concerned about that information. It appears that we’ve also got some of these “misinformation operatives” posting on Free Republic, trying to “fool” the readership, into *not protecting* the Internet (which provides our access here).... LOL...

Death of the Internet
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2008/120608_a_death.htm


63 posted on 04/05/2009 10:47:49 AM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler

Thanks for the reference. We conservatives have certain legitimate differences regarding the specifics and particulars of our agenda. However, it does appear that some trolls are subtly trying to disrupt our dialogue with disinformation and the thiny-veiled talking points of liberalism. Fortunately, such are usually easily detected and ignored.


64 posted on 04/05/2009 2:02:04 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: Star Traveler

You’re not “protecting” the internet by buying into net “neutrality” any more than you’d protect speech by buying into their “fairness” doctrine.

The fact of the matter is that as it stands, the internet operates freely and works. Down the road there will be continued innovation, and you can choose which new services to use or keep using it as you do now.

Net “neutrality” outlaws the ability to provide specific services to people who want them, and worse than that puts decision making (and the accompanying favoritism and control) in the hands of government.

Is it really that difficult to see? The Orwellian language, the pending “crisis”, the need for “protection”, government as the answer to the “problem”, describing data in class warfare terms, and the fact that every socialist and statist loves it should be indicators.

Cable TV and landline phones are the result of government command and control of infrastructure. The internet is the shining exception of what decentralized free design produces. Don’t send it down the path of mediocre lowest common denominator (at best) and censorship (more likely):

http://www.freedomworks.org/publications/net-neutrality-nonsense


65 posted on 04/05/2009 2:15:58 PM PDT by BobbyT
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To: BobbyT

Well..., not from the way I see it personally, and also not from the way some others see it, too (per the link in post #63 and the other links I provided in my posts up above) and not from the way FReepers have posted here, too...

I’ll be working for maintaining the current open and neutral usage of the Internet as it has been and as it stands today.


66 posted on 04/05/2009 2:24:41 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: hiredhand

How’s torproject compare to www.anonymizer.com?


67 posted on 04/05/2009 3:21:28 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Star Traveler

Traitorous bustards.


68 posted on 04/05/2009 4:43:48 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

I included some more links at post #19...

I know that there are a number of FReepers who would want the government to *do nothing* regarding the Internet. However, the doing of nothing is really allowing others (and that’s in the private sector) to “hijack” the entire thing and make us little “piggy banks” for them all, and actually *control* the very information that we access so freely now. So, not all “regulation” is something bad, especially if it prevents someone else from taking away what you have *right now*...

Anyway, that’s the way I see it with the Internet...


69 posted on 04/05/2009 4:51:04 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler

However, in this era . . .

given the globalists compulsions to !!!!CONTROL!!!!

whether they do it through government regulation or corporate skull-duggary—

it’s all evil.

Horribly evil.

I’d at least vote for NO government regulation.

At least the consumer has some capacity to protest with wallets toward the corporations.


70 posted on 04/05/2009 4:53:59 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

Well, the point of the whole thing is to keep the Internet going without the equivalent of “toll roads” for special service, relegating all other services to the “dirt roads” and therefore, into “oblivion” — while the newer “Internet 2” is implemented. And believe me, the new “Internet 2” is *very controlling* and you will be tracked in everything you do, by someone else, and you will be identified, exactly (as to who you are, not simply an IP number and a computer “MAC” number). It will all go into a database and everything you say and do can be “called up” at any time they want, for anything in the future.

That’s why I don’t want to see the “Internet” replaced with “Internet 2” — and that’s what is being done (i.e., “in the process” right now)...

It’s really already happening. And I’m not talking just about what this one guy says. I have been reading about “Internet 2” since before the year 2000...

That’s why I say that the current Internet needs to be *mandated* as “Net Neutral” for all services, no matter what, and preserved for the future, no matter and “even when” the “Internet 2” goes into full swing in the near future.


71 posted on 04/05/2009 5:02:54 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler

Such lack of privacy has been standard SOP

regarding ALL electronic/electrical communications since at least 1970.

AT LEAST 1970.

Privacy and The Constitution have been long shredded by the globalists.


72 posted on 04/05/2009 5:19:04 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Star Traveler

I certainly would prefer the least amount of censorship possible.

Trouble is,

Scripture is, to me, clear . . . the globalists will be in power for around 7 years overtly plus all the control they’ve had leading up to the 7 years of Tribulation.

They will have unprecedented control over the lives of individuals around the world.

It will be horrific.

I’m all for hindering and slowing such down by prayer and honorable actions otherwise.

But I think we need to be wise about our use of energy and resources and avoid futile wastes that accomplish little or nothing for good.


73 posted on 04/05/2009 5:29:29 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

Oh..., I know that privacy has been encroached upon over the years, but there is a lot more that can be done. So, for me..., just because they’ve made it this far, doesn’t mean that I’m going to say — “go further” ... LOL...


74 posted on 04/05/2009 5:34:13 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler

Of course.

Just be wise about avoiding unnecessary and counter-productive futility.


75 posted on 04/05/2009 5:40:17 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: DuncanWaring
How's torproject compare to www.anonymizer.com?

If I remember correctly, anonymizer is for HTTP, HTTPS, and FTP and offers a web based front end for any client whatsoever. Tor is more of a transport anonymizer. Most people use it for web, but it really works for ANYTHING, and it works better on Linux, BSD and OSX (BSD under the covers) than Windows.

There are mentions of some other similar projects though at the Torproject homepage that I have to check out...but for the time shortage "thing". :-)
76 posted on 04/05/2009 7:06:07 PM PDT by hiredhand (Understand the CRA and why we're facing economic collapse - see my about page.)
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To: hiredhand

That’s plenty of answer for now.


77 posted on 04/05/2009 7:07:37 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: BobbyT

78 posted on 09/07/2009 2:39:24 PM PDT by antonia (A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves. - Edward R. Murrow)
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To: Candor7

79 posted on 09/07/2009 2:41:41 PM PDT by antonia (A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves. - Edward R. Murrow)
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