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To: nufsed
Where was the shroud from 1-1204?

According to other documentation, history, and legend, the Shroud was taken in about 35 AD—after Jesus resurrection—by Thaddeus to King Abgar of Edessa to cure him of a skin affliction. It remained revered there as the Image of Edessa (a facial image only as the cloth was displayed, folded in a frame) until the city was taken by Iconoclastic Persians in the 4th Century. The cloth was walled up in the "Archway of Vaults" to protect it from destruction by the non-believers. It was left there, lost, until the 6th Century when it was found in the immured in a hidden vault in the City Gate when the gates were being repaired about 19 years after being damaged a flood in 525. As the Image of Edessa—the Holy Mandylion— it was brought to Constantinople to the Hagia Sophia on August 15, 944, as attested to by the Sermon of Gregory Referendarius, the Arch Deacon of the Hagia Sophia.

63 posted on 04/05/2009 1:42:35 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Swordmaker

Thank you. 57 was also informative.


65 posted on 04/05/2009 1:44:57 PM PDT by nufsed (Release the birth certificate, passport and school records.)
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To: Swordmaker

“it was brought to Constantinople to the Hagia Sophia on August 15, 944, as attested to by the Sermon of Gregory Referendarius, the Arch Deacon of the Hagia Sophia.”

How old IS that church?


72 posted on 04/05/2009 1:51:22 PM PDT by patton (I hope that they fight to the death and both sides win.)
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To: Swordmaker

Nevermind -

“The current building was originally constructed as a church between A.D. 532 and 537 on the orders of the Byzantine Emperor Justinian, and was in fact the third Church of the Holy Wisdom to occupy the site (the previous two had both been destroyed by riots). It was designed by two architects, Isidore of Miletus and Anthemius of Tralles. “


76 posted on 04/05/2009 1:56:06 PM PDT by patton (I hope that they fight to the death and both sides win.)
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To: Swordmaker

Swordmaker, have you read “Born in Blood”? If you did, what is your opinion of the author and the premise of the book?


109 posted on 04/05/2009 6:56:32 PM PDT by healy61
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To: Swordmaker

My father in law had it in his garage, along with all of the bent nails, old oil, and pieces of wood that we cannot quite figure where it came from?


125 posted on 04/06/2009 11:45:35 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Ein Volk, Ein Riech, Ein Ein.)
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To: Swordmaker

Fascinating. Thank you.


159 posted on 01/22/2010 2:37:15 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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