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Dems block military vote in New York special election
Openmarket.org ^ | 4/5/2009 | Hans Bader

Posted on 04/05/2009 6:36:30 PM PDT by massmike

The outcome of a special Congressional election in New York’s 20th Congressional District will likely turn on the illegal exclusion of up to 1,000 overseas military ballots, which otherwise would have tipped the race in favor of James Tedisco (R). Tedisco and Scott Murphy (D) are in a dead heat, with 77,225 votes each.

Democrats on the state elections board blocked GOP attempts to allow overseas military voting in the special election. Overseas ballots take weeks to reach voters and be returned unless special measures are taken to speed things up. But the elections officials refused to do anything to speed things up, or mail the ballots out early enough. The result is that perhaps 90 percent of the ballots will be tossed in the trash without ever being counted. (Military ballots are cast mostly for Republican candidates).

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: militaryvote; newyork; ny2009; scottmurphy; tedisco; votesuppression
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1 posted on 04/05/2009 6:36:31 PM PDT by massmike
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To: massmike

B@stards.


2 posted on 04/05/2009 6:37:18 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: massmike

There is coming a day of reckoning when the democrats are going to exclude the military once too often and it’s going to explode on their faces.

The military has fought and died since the founding of this country to keep the rights we hold dear, including the sacred right to vote. To exclude them from any vote is tantamount to TREASON. These democrats should be tried for treason and the punishment carried out swiftly.


3 posted on 04/05/2009 6:39:03 PM PDT by MissouriConservative (The strength and power of despotism consists wholly in the fear of resistance. - Thomas Paine)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

This from the same party that was screaming “count every vote!” in Florida in 2000.


4 posted on 04/05/2009 6:39:20 PM PDT by massmike
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To: massmike
My understanding was that the ballots from overseas had until April 13th to get back to the states although they had to be posted marked by the date of the election.

I also understood that it went through the legislature and those conditions were agreed upon.

5 posted on 04/05/2009 6:40:13 PM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

You’re not really surprised are you?


6 posted on 04/05/2009 6:40:50 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: massmike

How does it turn for the democrats by excluding other votes, when both have the same number? All ties go to the democrats, is that the rule?


7 posted on 04/05/2009 6:40:54 PM PDT by kenth (Obama - One Big Ass Mistake, America)
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To: massmike

This link in the article really was an eye-opener....

http://www.openmarket.org/2009/03/17/left-wing-attorney-general-ashamed-of-end-to-discrimination/


8 posted on 04/05/2009 6:41:12 PM PDT by massmike
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To: massmike

BTTT


9 posted on 04/05/2009 6:41:28 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Atlas Shrugged Mode: ON)
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To: massmike

This is what you get when the Commie ‘RATS are given total power over us. The ‘RATS are out of control.


10 posted on 04/05/2009 6:41:31 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (So Orwell was off by 25 years! So what!)
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To: massmike
Folks, don't panic.
Yes it SUCKS that the dems are doing this, but I still say that the numbers GREATLY favor Tedisco.
If the ballots that HAVE been returned vote along party lines, then the Independent Absentee Ballots will have to vote at, roughly, an 88% rate for Murphy, to make up the difference, or the Party advantage, held by Tedisco. Yes we need to make a stink. No, we should not get cocky. Still, I think we WON this one!
11 posted on 04/05/2009 6:42:51 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: massmike

Geez. They could make it less blatant.


12 posted on 04/05/2009 6:43:41 PM PDT by Winstons Julia
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To: massmike

They practiced this and honed it during the 2004 election, and they almost got away with it. What I don’t understand is, why doesn’t SOMEONE take charge of getting these ballots to the guys, stamped, returned on time? Or getting computer voting?

It is so wrong.

And why doesn’t someone sue?


13 posted on 04/05/2009 6:44:09 PM PDT by bboop (obama, little o, not a Real God)
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To: MissouriConservative

It burns me when I see on the local AF base a few stickers for bama.......what a bunch of ingrates.......as long as they got their tidy military pension, they don’t give a rats’ ass about other military and their rights.


14 posted on 04/05/2009 6:45:26 PM PDT by cherry
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To: massmike
The democRATs did this exact same thing in FL during the 2000 election. Right algore, can I get an amen Daley?

Huey Long, Kennedy (all of them), Daley (the elder also), Sanchez, etc., your history will one day be your epithet.

5.56mm

15 posted on 04/05/2009 6:46:12 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: MissouriConservative

Sadly I agree. And SHAME ON ANY nation or state that allows such a disgrace!


16 posted on 04/05/2009 6:46:16 PM PDT by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: massmike

http://www.jimtedisco.com/


17 posted on 04/05/2009 6:46:40 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade, There are only two sides. Pick one.)
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To: massmike

It’s time to take to the streets. Takeovers happen when people just roll over and whine.
Papers, radio, right wing lawyers need to get involved, congress needs major heat right now. Rush needs a heads up as well as Glenn Beck and Hannity. Freepers run with this and don’t let the left win!!!!! Inaction equals defeat.


18 posted on 04/05/2009 6:48:04 PM PDT by blueyon (It is worth taking a stand even if you are standing alone!)
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To: Kansas58

No offense intended, as I appreciate the optimism, but I heard the same thing on election night ‘08. I put absolutely NOTHING past these lying socialists.


19 posted on 04/05/2009 6:49:00 PM PDT by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: All

Train our highly motivated troops in the military arts, arm them with the best weapons on the planet, send them into harm’s way to defend our freedoms ...

... then tell them their votes won’t be counted?

Shortsighted, to say the least. In fact, suicidal.


20 posted on 04/05/2009 6:49:34 PM PDT by DNME ("When small men cast long shadows, the sun is about to set.")
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To: massmike

5995 absentee ballots.
48% GOP = 2878

36% GOP = 2158

16% Ind = 959

IF the GOP and Dem voters vote party line, then Murphy would need to make up a 720 vote deficit in the absentee ballots.

Murphy would then need 75% of the 959 Ind. ballots just to catch up with Murphy. That would be 720 votes.

Just put some more time into this, and, well -— I think Murphy needs 840 of the Ind. absentee votes.

840/959 = 88%!!!

Yes, some of the GOP absentees went to Murphy.

Yes, some of the Dem absentees went to Tedisco.

Those will tend to cancel each other out, IMHO.

Also, Tedisco LEAD in the polls until recently. This would tend to make the EARLY VOTERS more R than D, would it not?


21 posted on 04/05/2009 6:50:03 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: massmike
I guess the Democrats feel you can die for your country, but cannot vote.

On the other hand, how many ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS voted in this election?

22 posted on 04/05/2009 6:50:14 PM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: massmike

No surprises here. If this was the nation it used to be, the Repubs would appeal to the Federal Court, and the judge would summarily vacate the boards decision, based on the fact that they are ignoring the rules that they and the Legislature agreed upon.

Of course, this nation is NOT the way it used to be, and the DEMS will go to any length to maintain and increase their power. You think this is a travesty? Just wait til 2010 — or after the Census is used to gerrymander [re: RIG] the 2012 Presidential race.


23 posted on 04/05/2009 6:51:20 PM PDT by patriot preacher (To be a good American Citizen and a Christian IS NOT a contradiction. (www.mygration.blogspot.com))
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To: MissouriConservative
Hmmm

(If I) had just returned from a war zone, all pumped up with patriotism and personal success (I'm alive), with the memory(s) of war and (perhaps) carnage ... and my psyche is THEN assaulted with my vote wasn't/didn't count?

It would take one hell of a debriefing to keep me from a specop.

Just sayin' ... in my heart .. I might be just a little bit savage.

24 posted on 04/05/2009 6:51:23 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: cherry

stuff like this will help make the majority military vote go almost unanimous to conservatives!


25 posted on 04/05/2009 6:51:42 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: massmike

The only time the Lib/Dems like the military is when they can hold them up as victims to forward an agenda.


26 posted on 04/05/2009 6:54:19 PM PDT by headstamp 2 ("Government is a disease masquerading as it's own cure")
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

It is estimated that a minimum of 45 days is needed for the overseas military to get their ballots and return them. In 9 of the counties, the ballots went out on March 12 and one on March 13 giving them less than THREE WEEKS to mail the ballots all the way to Podunk, Afghanistan and back. The Obama Justice Dept instead of asking for a full 45 days from mailing out to receive the ballots asked for only 30 days. How’s that for looking out for out military men and women?


27 posted on 04/05/2009 6:54:24 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Socialism is the belief that most people are better off if everyone was equally poor and miserable.)
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To: Kansas58
stuff like this will help make the majority military vote go almost unanimous to conservatives!

Doesn't make one danged difference if they don't count the votes now does it..... hence the reason they are not counting the votes.... the majority will more than likely be for the repubs.

(ps.... don't mean to sound harsh at you; just p'od at the audacity of liberals)

28 posted on 04/05/2009 6:58:59 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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To: massmike

Each and every time a Democrat goes before the people for their support - it should be demanded they answer the question: “Why do the Democrats disenfranchise our Military votes at every opportunity, and seek to over enfranchise the least among us, illegal aliens and felons?”.

If Americans are to be denied the ballot box, perhaps one day they will finally reach for the cartridge box..

I’m nearly 70, and for the FIRST time in my adult life, I wouldn’t condemn an assassin.... To paraphrase our lovely 1st lady...


29 posted on 04/05/2009 7:00:59 PM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: massmike

Punks. Adolescent, psychotic punks.

IMHO


30 posted on 04/05/2009 7:01:58 PM PDT by ripley
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To: Repeat Offender

Understood.
What I mean, of course, is that not ALL military are in Iraq or Afghanistan right now.
And, those that are, WILL return some day.
And, they WILL remember!


31 posted on 04/05/2009 7:04:07 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: river rat
Actually, an assassin scares the hell out of me.

Obama would then be a martyr and Communism would be hard to stop.

32 posted on 04/05/2009 7:07:14 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: massmike

These ‘’officials’’ should go to jail for not doing their job. Do these positions rquire them to be ‘’bonded’’ If so go after monetary damages.


33 posted on 04/05/2009 7:07:46 PM PDT by Waco (Plan B. Try genocide, shall we)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Revolution, Keep it every ones face. Why wouldn't Americans votes count?

Get Mad . Your getting F*cked , Wake up.

Do you need everything ripped from you before you know its gone?

34 posted on 04/05/2009 7:10:35 PM PDT by reefdiver (How do you keep the Conservative a Conservative, in Washington DC ?)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; All
I do not have the expertise to do this, so I call upon anyone who has both that, and the time: A central clearinghouse - a website, fully registered and operating within the strictest legal parameters - to post not only the criminal acts and transgressions of these thugs, from the federal level on down to the local town halls, but to also post their names, contact info, and likenesses (again, within the full scope of local, state, and federal law).

ANY VOLUNTEERS????!!?!?!?!!?


35 posted on 04/05/2009 7:11:01 PM PDT by Viking2002 (FUBO. Just....................FUBO.)
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To: mware

Was there a deadline by which the ballots had to be mailed out to the military? I understood that they were mailed by regular mail to go overseas a mere two to three days before the deadline for having them postmarked. It is fine to have a rule for postmarking, but what good does that do if they don’t have any deadline for mailing them out which allows for time to get there and then be filled out?


36 posted on 04/05/2009 7:14:16 PM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: massmike
Will the repussykins take this to court or just roll over on their backs.. as usual?

LLS

37 posted on 04/05/2009 7:25:19 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my President... NEVER!!!)
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To: MissouriConservative

The dems really must be stupid as they look to keep pissin on the Military’s back and telling them its raining. Someday, maybe soon, they’ll be screaming and crying for the Mil to help save em. Betcha reality will come to them as a big surprise.


38 posted on 04/05/2009 7:31:57 PM PDT by dusttoyou (Alamo Tea Party like its 1773)
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To: massmike
One more example of how Democrats have to cheat to win. Why do they have to cheat? Because the reality is that the majority rejects them. The MSM can pretend it doesn't, but the reality is Democrats have to cheat to win.

That's good news for Conservatives and Republicans.

39 posted on 04/05/2009 7:32:19 PM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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To: blueyon

I agree! However, I look at our history and see that, in hours of need, there were always great men to rise above the chaos and lead us. There is no dearth of military men who are as much heroes as any of our forefathers. Where there is a total lack of greatness is in the civilian world.

Where is the Adams or Jefferson or Lincoln or Jefferson Davis or Henry Clay or Daniel Webster or Teddy Roosevelt of today? Our civilian leadership is worthy of ridicule and contempt, for they are not leaders; they are destroyers.


40 posted on 04/05/2009 7:32:27 PM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners.)
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The third party loone was a nice help to the Democrat candidate as they usualy are.


41 posted on 04/05/2009 7:36:48 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: massmike

It seems to me that democrats care more about counting the votes of bums and illegal aliens, than the votes of people who’ve sacrificed their blood, sweat and tears for the very freedom to hold elections.

I wish I could think of one honorable democrat...but I can’t.


42 posted on 04/05/2009 7:36:51 PM PDT by kamikaze2000
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To: massmike
How can that be... I mean CHET EDWARDS belongs to the democrat party and he wouldn't be part of a party that made a point of denying rights to the military.

F'ing hypocrites. Yeah... the dems are so in love with the military.

43 posted on 04/05/2009 8:09:30 PM PDT by erman (Outside of a dog, a book is man's best companion. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.)
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To: LachlanMinnesota
"Postmarking" rules are NOT fine at all. The US Postal Service, not the states, decides when, where and "if" postmarks are made on mailpieces.

Mail sent without postage (free mail - e.g. military absentee ballots going and coming) do not require postmarks.

Never have.

Back in the 2000 election the Democrats beat down election board folks so they'd reject overseas military ballots that had not been postmarked even though neither the military nor USPS postmarked this free matter. USPS was prepared to rule on the matter if the Republicans had asked.

Fundamentally, the states have no authority to demand postmarks - it's a strictly federal matter!

44 posted on 04/05/2009 8:18:18 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Kansas58
Why waste time with a puppet? If someone is going to get busy, then take out Soros, Bela Pelosi, and Reid. And Ellison, too, while someone is at it. Cut off the head; don't bother with the dildo poseur.

Vince Flynn's novel from some years ago, Term Limits, would be even more interesting today, I should think, if he would be so kind as to update it.

45 posted on 04/05/2009 8:52:54 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: massmike

And just which part of The Constitution do these DimWits not understand?


46 posted on 04/05/2009 9:08:39 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (The Constitution & Bill of Rights stand as a whole. Remove any part & nullify the whole.)
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To: massmike

count every vote for the welfare recipients.


47 posted on 04/05/2009 10:56:07 PM PDT by genghis
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To: LachlanMinnesota
Lach. The quick answer is I do not know when they were mailed out.

there were a few threads about the special election for NY20. That question may have been addressed but I do not recall.

I agree with you that something should be done to insure that the ballots get to them in time.

48 posted on 04/06/2009 2:59:27 AM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: massmike
This from the same party that was screaming “count every vote!” in Florida in 2000.

Actually, they're being quite consistent. They tried to throw out the absentee military vote in 2000 as well.

49 posted on 04/06/2009 3:06:29 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Hey, Obama! Where's my check?)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

“How’s that for looking out for out military men and women?”

This is just the beginning. Having served under both Carter and Clinton...we ain’t seen nothin’ yet!


50 posted on 04/06/2009 5:06:03 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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