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Did Romney's religion cost him the presidency? (Only if his religion is Liberalism)
Mormon Times ^

Posted on 04/06/2009 12:41:04 PM PDT by mnehring

OREM, Utah -- Kirk Jowers has an answer for whether Mitt Romney's presidential bid was lost because of Mormonism:

"I can unequivocally tell you that the answer is 'yes, no and maybe.'"

owers' comment elicited laughter at the "Mormonism in the Public Mind" conference on Friday, April 3, at Utah Valley University. He is director of the Hinckley Institute of Politics at the University of Utah and associate director of the Institute of Public and International Affairs.

According to Jowers, in October 2007 many pundits were saying Romney was on his way to winning. He had focused on the early primaries and was overcoming the deficit of name recognition between him and John McCain and Rudy Giuliani. "It looked like he might actually run the table," Jowers said.

(Excerpt) Read more at mormontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: 2008; election2008; ldschurch; mormons; romney
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To: mnehring

Well, personally, though I am a Christian who believes Mormonism is a false religion, I would have liked Mitt much better, and been much more likely to vote for him, if I thought he were a better Mormon.

The same issues (abortion, homosexual agenda) that made him a MINO (Mormon in name only), made him a RINO. I simply did not buy his supposed SoCon conversion.


41 posted on 04/06/2009 1:12:09 PM PDT by Above My Pay Grade
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To: mnehring

It was Romney himself and his campaign spokesmen who kept bringing up the issue of religious bigotry. At least that was the case until Huckabee got involved.

But Huckabee ain’t my idea of a Christian, frankly. He’s a snake oil salesman, and he seems to have been working for McCain at that point. Out of the other side of his mouth he was busy accusing Fred Tompson of being pro-abortion, which is an outright lie.


42 posted on 04/06/2009 1:12:09 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: ejonesie22

I haven’t tried FReeping on my Blackberry yet..


43 posted on 04/06/2009 1:12:40 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: broncobilly
Oh, come on billy, you think Chris Mathews and Katie Couric are going to submit to the forced mormon secrecy about things like this ?

Apostle Orson Hyde: “I discover that some of the Eastern papers represent me as a great blasphemer, because I said, in my lecture on Marriage, at our last Conference, that JESUS CHRIST WAS MARRIED at Cana of Galilee, THAT MARY, MARTHA, AND OTHERS WERE HIS WIVES, AND THAT HE BEGAT CHILDREN. All I have to say in reply to that charge [that Jesus was married and had children] is this --- they worship a Savior that is too pure and holy to fulfil the commands of his Father. I worship one that is just pure and holy enough "to fulfil all righteousness;" not only the righteous law of baptism, but the still more righteous and important law "to multiply and replenish the earth." Startle not at this ! for even the Father himself honored that law by coming down to Mary, without a natural body, and begetting a son; and if Jesus begat children, he only "did that which he had seen his father do." (Journal of Discourses, Volume 2, page 210; brackets mine)

They would unleash on him if he won the primiary, and we CHRISTIANS would not back him up. No Romney !!

44 posted on 04/06/2009 1:13:32 PM PDT by SENTINEL (SGT USMC GWI)
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To: mnehring
Only as a last resort ;-)
45 posted on 04/06/2009 1:13:47 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (Stupidity has an expiration date 1-20-2013 *(Thanks Nana))
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To: Cicero

I think you hit on a key point.. Fred was probably the most Conservative who actually could have stood a chance, but, due to his NBC contract forcing him to get in late, I think it allowed for the RINOs to get together and paint him as something he wasn’t (lazy, pro-abortion, pro-gun control and every other lie drummed up).. The stars where aligned against Fred in more ways than one. It is hard to come back when your opponents have that much time to define you and you can’t really rebut.


46 posted on 04/06/2009 1:14:58 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Diogenesis

I am talking about hijaacked threads. If it about Romney, there will soon be posts that are simply attaacks on Mormonism.
No one is so blind as one who refuses to see. And you refuse to see for obvious reasons.


47 posted on 04/06/2009 1:16:35 PM PDT by broncobilly
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To: Tennessee Nana

Yeah, really. Enough is enough. None of the other former candidates keep on with this crap day in and day out, only this one.


48 posted on 04/06/2009 1:18:31 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: ejonesie22

Oh, silly me...

I’m still waiting for my 2012 program...

:)


49 posted on 04/06/2009 1:19:03 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Cheetahcat

“...and gave us the Mummy McQueeg.”

Face it. We had no good options.


50 posted on 04/06/2009 1:19:11 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: SENTINEL; broncobilly

IMHO, if Bambi’s camp went down that road (IF Romney won the primary) it would have seriously backfired. First, Obama sure doesn’t have a clean history regarding religion. Secondly, I believe that most people have a positive view of Mormons as individuals. Some of the theology may be odd to us non-Mormons, but we know people who are true of heart when we see it (not saying Romney was, but Mormons in general). Attacking the religion with some of the dogmatic oddities could have actually painted Romney more Conservative than he was, aligning him with a very Conservative faith. It would mask some of the moderate/liberal baggage.


51 posted on 04/06/2009 1:19:55 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: broncobilly

“I will believe Romney’s religion is not a factor when posts attacking Mormonism are not allowed on the News/Activism section of FR.”

You sound like a true “victim”.

If you haven’t noticed, everyone’s religions beliefs get attacked here from time to time.

Is Mormonism above criticism?


54 posted on 04/06/2009 1:24:29 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: mnehring

Romney had problems. His faith wasn’t one of them.


55 posted on 04/06/2009 1:24:42 PM PDT by Poison Pill (Help, I've voted Republican and I can't get up!)
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To: SENTINEL

Plus Romney was video taped while on the radio in Iowa and after the interview, the tape kept rolling while he argued with the interview guy...

He said stuff like “Jesus is returning to Missouri”...

That would have gone over big...

/s


56 posted on 04/06/2009 1:24:50 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: broncobilly

I’m one of those who posts ANTI MORMONISM comments, usually using the Joe Smith, et al writings to illustarte the heresies. But I challenge you to show me ONE anti-Mormon post I’ve ever made. ... By the way, what would you like with your usual whine? Crackers or a soda?


57 posted on 04/06/2009 1:24:58 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Poison Pill

You put it better than the entire thread put together.. thanks.


58 posted on 04/06/2009 1:25:13 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehring

While I am definitely biased against his religion, I would not have voted for him simply because he doesn’t even remotely resemble “conservative”.

If I were still a registered Republican, I would have voted for Duncan Hunter...though my vote literally would not have counted. Our primaries are so late that they do not matter.


59 posted on 04/06/2009 1:30:20 PM PDT by SandWMan (While you may not be able to legislate morality, you can legislate morally.)
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To: mnehring

Romney could of beaten Barry. (if a goodlooking, well spoken candidate was all America was looking for)


60 posted on 04/06/2009 1:36:07 PM PDT by wolfcreek (There is no 2 party system only arrogant Pols and their handlers)
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