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Guns on campus
San Marcos Record ^ | 5 April, 2009 | Anita Miller

Posted on 04/07/2009 5:33:53 AM PDT by marktwain

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To: wolfcreek
With the *average* response time for LEOs (especially campus cops), you could dispatch the perp and clean your weapon before they ever saw you.

All you'd really have to do is to put the gun away & wait for them to show up. As long as you're not holding a weapon, they wouldn't shoot you, would they?
41 posted on 04/07/2009 7:53:41 AM PDT by HotLead61 (Death as a Free Man is much preferred to "life" as a slave)
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To: TYVets

I don’t recall seeing or hearing anything in the media about any resistance by the victims. I did see reports that some tried to get away but the doors were locked as in Virginia or barred by the perp’s car as in Binghamton.

Heroes like Todd Beamer (of United Flight 93 on 9/11) are rare and many people don’t want to accept the near certainty of death that happens when a heavily armed thug is attacked with a chair. I think that most people, to maintain sanity, have to fog reality and maintain a hope that they’ll come out of a very bad situation alive. In essence, the last ones that might be eaten by the alligator.

The poiticians who would entertain and vote for the illogical, deadly nonsense that supports gun free zones and prevents good, honest citizens from arming themselves at home and anywhere else, need to be targeted and voted out of any office they hold or aspire to.


42 posted on 04/07/2009 10:20:32 AM PDT by Postman
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To: DuncanWaring

I’d forgotten.....Thank you for remembering and for posting the link about this extremely brave man who was willing to die to save others.


43 posted on 04/07/2009 10:26:38 AM PDT by Postman
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To: Postman

Thank you.


44 posted on 04/07/2009 10:30:57 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (The Fairness Doctrine isn't about "Fairness" - it's about Doctrine.)
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To: Joe Brower

Excellent observation and cartoon!


45 posted on 04/07/2009 11:12:54 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: HotLead61

I wouldn’t be *holding* my gun in the aftermath of a shooting. They might very well take you for the shooter.

Not sure I would say anything to anybody if I had taken down the perp and there were no witnesses. Too many legal formalities.


46 posted on 04/07/2009 11:41:59 AM PDT by wolfcreek (There is no 2 party system only arrogant Pols and their handlers)
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To: wolfcreek

I never said I’d hold it, either. I said I’d put it away, meaning out of sight.


47 posted on 04/07/2009 1:23:51 PM PDT by HotLead61 (Death as a Free Man is much preferred to "life" as a slave)
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To: marktwain; Travis McGee; wolfcreek; Eaker; Squantos; El Gato; neverdem; thackney; TheMom; ...

So the perception that the training received to be an ALERRT Law Enforcement officer in this state is to shoot first and ask questions later, that that training is preferrable to a civilian who is licenced (or not) to carry a firearm for lawful self-defensive purposes defending themselves...

Thus our right to keep and bear arms is a death sentence if a Law Enforcement officer observes us doing so??? Or just at the sight of someone not in uniform with a gun in their hand???

You know...Things used to be a lot clearer in situations like this...

Good thing this article is good for one thing...Bird cage liner...


48 posted on 04/07/2009 1:33:47 PM PDT by stevie_d_64
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To: marktwain

http://www.alerrt.com/


49 posted on 04/07/2009 1:38:34 PM PDT by stevie_d_64
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To: stevie_d_64; marktwain; Travis McGee; wolfcreek; Eaker; Squantos; El Gato; neverdem; thackney; ...

I thought post these *progressive* responses from the Austin American Statesman. Show the extreme fair and balanced approach the paper exibits.

Notice the guy’s name in the last letter. LOL!


Guns on campus

Last week I sat through an hours-long Public Safety Committee meeting concerning legislation that would allow guns on college campuses in Texas.

I learned that pretty much all public and private institutions oppose this legislation. I learned that more than 90 percent of violent crime against students happens off campus. I learned that our elite military academies, West Point and the Air Force Academy, do not allow anyone to possess firearms on their campuses. I leaned that this same legislation was defeated everywhere it was introduced in 2007 and 2008. It had not passed in any states this year. Oklahoma and Virginia have defeated it twice in two years.

This legislation is trying to solve a problem that does not exist. One can only hope that the Public Safety Committee listened and will say no to the gun lobby on this legislation.

Guns on college campuses is a dangerous idea.

Marsha McCartney

North Texas Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence

Dallas


Re: March 20 article “Bills would allow guns at college.”

I disagree with lifting the ban on handguns. To do so is unnecessary and would not be in the best interest of university student bodies. Research has shown that to do so would have little to no effect on crime deterrence.

If allowed to carry handguns on the premises of academic institutions, it is highly likely that license holders would interfere with respondents in the uncommon event of a violence issue involving guns.

College campuses have a unique environment with high stress levels and problems with drug and alcohol abuse. These differences could potentially lead a normally sane person to commit a heinous crime if allowed to carry a concealed handgun. Lifting the ban would introduce unnecessary danger and fear among college students.

Lauren Williams

San Marcos


We surely do not need anyone waving a pistol around in a bar, and we also don’t need immature, reckless students carrying a weapon into classrooms at our schools. Nor do we need legislators and lobbyists promoting manufacture and sales of any kind of weapons.

It appears that we have a few lawmakers being spurred on by lobbyists to enhance gun makers’ interests.

Reliable reports reveal that more than 300,000 Texan concealed-gun permits were active last year, which means that at least that many handguns were made and sold. Let those who violate existing laws suffer the consequences

Remington Webster

Austin


50 posted on 04/07/2009 1:45:44 PM PDT by wolfcreek (There is no 2 party system only arrogant Pols and their handlers)
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To: wolfcreek; Squantos; Eaker; humblegunner

I guess what gets me is the avantguard (sp? its a french term so I really don’t give a damn) attitude and perception that this training organization who is reciveing Federal dollars to operate and train Law Enforcment and Military??? to shoot first and ask questions later, according to this Chapa dillweed...

I’m personally tired of this over the top scrutiny doled out to the public like stimulus money about the civilians like us who have jumped thru the hoops to obtain a friggin’ permission slip to exercise an unalienable right...


51 posted on 04/08/2009 4:15:19 PM PDT by stevie_d_64
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To: Joe Brower

Nice, but missing Ritalin and other psychotropic drugs. Otherwise, dead on. It’s the inanimate object that is dangerous. Like SUVs. Personal responsibility means nothing to liberal idiots.


52 posted on 04/08/2009 10:13:52 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Depression Countdown: 55... 54... 53...)
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To: stevie_d_64

“obtain a friggin’ permission slip”

Personally, I ain’t asking.


53 posted on 04/09/2009 4:32:20 AM PDT by wolfcreek (There is no 2 party system only arrogant Pols and their handlers)
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To: wolfcreek

Well, you are right, and if any of us could snap our fingers, or get Jeannie to blink her foxy eyes to make it go away, then heck yes...

I personally hate feeling like a hypocrite carrying and having to have a little piece of plastic (that I had to pay money for) that says its ok for me to do so, even when I have had permission all along without it...


54 posted on 04/09/2009 5:14:58 AM PDT by stevie_d_64
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To: stevie_d_64

Good thing you don’t have to pay/extra scrutiny for a Class III. :)


55 posted on 04/09/2009 5:17:32 AM PDT by wolfcreek (There is no 2 party system only arrogant Pols and their handlers)
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To: wolfcreek

Oh, now that is a big time “ouch”...;-)


56 posted on 04/09/2009 5:21:15 AM PDT by stevie_d_64
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To: Joe Brower

That picture really captures the liberal mindset. Bookmarked.


57 posted on 04/09/2009 2:08:11 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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