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Mentally disabled man taken off respirator
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Posted on 04/07/2009 6:40:43 PM PDT by Chet 99

BATAVIA, Ohio, April 7 (UPI) -- A mentally disabled Ohio man suffering from terminal cancer has been removed from the respirator and feeding tube keeping him alive.

Ronnie Dragoo's sisters want their brother's life to end peacefully with as little pain as possible, the Cincinnati Enquirer reported. But Cindy Dragoo of Miami, Ohio, and Donna Dragoo Theile of Newtonsville have no authority to make medical decisions for their brother because he is a ward of the state, so he remained on the respirator.

"I have prayed to God to have him die," Theile said. "No one deserves this."

The sisters said that their brother is unable to speak in full sentences.

"He doesn't know what dying means," Cindy Dragoo said.

Kathleen Rinto of Advocacy and Protective Services Inc., which has a contract with Ohio to serve as guardians for the mentally disabled, said that two doctors must sign off on decisions that could end someone's life and that the person must be in a coma or terminally ill, the newspaper said.

Ronnie Dragoo was moved to a different hospital where two doctors were willing to recommend taking him off life support. On Monday, the respirator and feeding tube were removed, and the doctors also signed a do-not-resuscitate order.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: cancer; euthanasia; moralabsolutes; murder; prolife; ronniedragoo; slipperyslope; whiterose

1 posted on 04/07/2009 6:40:43 PM PDT by Chet 99
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To: Chet 99

Ohio’s Terry Schiavo


2 posted on 04/07/2009 6:43:01 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: Chet 99

“I have prayed to God to have him die,” ?


3 posted on 04/07/2009 6:44:23 PM PDT by GSP.FAN
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To: Chet 99
bHo health care starting up at full swing.

Remember it's not about health or care.

Just votes, unless you are one of the anointed ones in government.

Then it is about Health Care and being one of the critical members of the government that is “too important to fail”.

4 posted on 04/07/2009 6:44:57 PM PDT by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Ohio’s Terry Schiavo

She was (or was alleged to be) in a vegetative state. This guy is merely retarded. Me thinks the bar has been lowered. Slippery slope ..

5 posted on 04/07/2009 6:46:21 PM PDT by Chet 99
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To: Chet 99

Terry Schiavo wasn’t suffering from terminal cancer.


6 posted on 04/07/2009 6:49:37 PM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things)
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To: caseinpoint

Well shoot. Being born is fatal.


7 posted on 04/07/2009 6:52:33 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: caseinpoint

Don’t want relatives getting between him and the State of Ohio.


8 posted on 04/07/2009 6:52:43 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: Chet 99; wagglebee

Me thinks the bar has been lowered.

Me thinks thou art correct.

This is an example of what inspired my tagline.

9 posted on 04/07/2009 6:53:56 PM PDT by BykrBayb (May God have mercy on our souls. ~ Þ)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Being born is fatal.

True.

10 posted on 04/07/2009 7:05:48 PM PDT by Krodg
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To: Chet 99

So sad. My girls will have responsibility for their brother when I am gone. I hope I have taught them to respect life sufficiently.


11 posted on 04/07/2009 7:12:12 PM PDT by conservative cat (America, you have been PWNED!)
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To: Chet 99
The very first victims of the Nazi euthanasia program that evolved into the Holocaust were the mentally retarded and the insane.
12 posted on 04/07/2009 7:12:28 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard (AN)
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To: Chet 99
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Ronnie Dragoo
13 posted on 04/07/2009 7:22:33 PM PDT by BykrBayb (May God have mercy on our souls. ~ Þ)
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To: billorites

“Don’t want relatives getting between him and the State of Ohio.”

As I read this, the relatives want him to pass easily. The state was trying to keep him hooked up to the respirator. (Yes, opposite of what normally is the case.) I wanted Terry’s family to prevail and allow her to remain being tube-fed. In this case, I am not so certain and I don’t know where the line is.


14 posted on 04/07/2009 10:10:27 PM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things)
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To: caseinpoint
My medical power of attorney spells out quite clearly. No Code, no machines and I am thinking of getting a tattoo on my chest that states NO CODE..Worked in the hospital for over 10 years and saw some really nasty codes that brought back a vegetable...I don't want to hold onto life if I cannot live it. A body in a bed is not life. But I wouldn't make that decision for another person...We should all have a medical power of attorney and be quite specific as to our instructions....
15 posted on 04/08/2009 12:09:19 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: goat granny

That’s a good approach. The whoel question revolving around Terry was whether her intent could be implied from some off-handed remark she made to her husband that was completely at odds with her professed faith.

I do living wills for people and it is the rare person who wants to ensure that everything possible must be done to keep him or her alive. On other other hand, they like about a three-pronged test of whether to pull the plug: (1) unconscious or vegetative state, (2) almost no chance of recovery to a sentient live, and (3) extent of life support needed to maintain life, including whether it would entail pain.

About fourteen months ago a dear friend chose to pull the plug. He had ALS and the paralysis had slowly crept up his body to his ear level. He could communicate only by his eyes and was totally dependent on respirator and tube feedings to live. He spent two years in this condition in a “rehabilitation” hospital as he shrank from perhaps 400 lbs to around 150 lbs (he was about 6’4”), a big, burly, lovable bear of a Finnish husband and father. He surprised his wife and the rest of us by requesting the respirator be removed in mid-December 2007. We were there with him at the time. He was surrounded by his family and friends, his ecclesiastical leader, doctors, nurses and therapists who respected him. There was no question that this was his choice, he knew what he was doing, and he was not afraid of death. It was, to use a very inadequate word, an awesome experience to watch him transition from this life to the next.

I oppose euthanasia and I don’t know how much this retarded man can know or appreciate, but I do have compassion for the sisters who see a terminally ill man maintained on a respirator in a hopeless condition. It was difficult enough for my friend to stay on the respirator, and he had full faculty of mind. It would be difficult to see that intrusive treatment for someone who could not understand why this was happening to him.


16 posted on 04/08/2009 8:00:57 AM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things)
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To: caseinpoint
I agree with you. ALS is a horrific disease. His decision was rational and humane. Its interesting that having taken care of virtually thousands of patients over the years, several stand out even to this day..The human heart is not discernible. I once had a young boy that had never had a normal day in his life. Contractures, in a coma without the support of any intervention. Unresponsive, but his mothers love for him was so great and she cared for him so lovingly that one could only admire her. There was the possibility that he would outlive her...I always wondered what ever became of them..I sure would encourage everyone to have a document done that spells out very specifically what their instructions are..

I sure don't understand Terrys husband. He seem to want her dead no matter what. A real crime. Her parents wanted to take care of her...If she were my daughter, I am afraid of what I would have done to that monster. And gone to jail happily...

17 posted on 04/08/2009 10:48:47 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: Chet 99
Pinged from Terri Dailies


18 posted on 04/08/2009 4:47:55 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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