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Iowa gov cool to attempting gay-marriage reversal
The Associated Press ^ | 4/7/2009 | MIKE GLOVER

Posted on 04/07/2009 11:30:27 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky

DES MOINES, Iowa (AP) — Gov. Chet Culver on Tuesday ended days of silence on the Iowa Supreme Court's decision allowing same-sex marriage, saying he disagrees with the ruling but is "reluctant to support" amending the state constitution to reverse it.

Culver said in a lengthy statement that he hadn't changed his mind that marriage is between a man and a woman: "This is a tenet of my personal faith."

However, Culver said the issue before the court in its unanimous ruling Friday involved only civil marriage, and that churches and other religious institutions do not have to perform them.

"The court also concluded that the denial of this right constitutes discrimination," Culver said. "Therefore, after careful consideration and a thorough reading of the court's decision, I am reluctant to support amending the Iowa Constitution to add a provision that our Supreme Court has said is unlawful and discriminatory."

Culver made his statement hours after a Republican candidate for governor, Bob Vander Plaats, criticized the governor for not being more clear about where he stood on the gay marriage ruling.

"There's an old saying that silence is golden, but it doesn't apply when people need to know where their elected officials stand," said Vander Plaats, a Sioux City businessman.

The court ruling means same-sex couples can file for licenses in Iowa beginning April 27, and get married as soon as April 30.

Key Democratic legislative leaders have ruled out efforts to start the process of amending the constitution, and Culver's position likely ends that debate for all practical purposes. Social conservatives have been clamoring for the amendment, but even in their best-case scenario Iowa voters could not weigh in on the issue until 2012.

Iowa doesn't have residency requirements for marriage licenses, so same-sex couples from elsewhere could come to Iowa to be married. Vander Plaats said at the least, lawmakers should put residency requirements in place to head off such visits.

"It is wrong to allow people whose states do not allow same-sex marriages to rush into Iowa, get a quickie marriage and rush home to undermine the laws and values of another state," he said.

Culver urged both sides in the emotional debate "to exhibit respect and good will" and said he would focus his attention elsewhere.

"We are in the midst of a serious economic recession," said Culver, pointing to rising unemployment and last summer's record flooding. "That is where, I believe, my focus and energies should lie."

Senate Minority Leader Paul McKinley, R-Chariton, criticized Culver, saying he has broken an earlier promise to oppose gay marriage.

"Gov. Culver has chosen to stand with seven elite justices and deny the 3 million people of Iowa the right to vote on this significant issue," McKinley said in a statement. "This marriage flip-flop is just the latest example of Gov. Culver not providing the leadership that every Iowan deserves."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: chetculver; culver; homosexualagenda; ia; ia2009; pervertedmarriage; samesexmarriage
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It's time for Iowans to start practicing ACORN-like tactics and show up at the governor's mansion and make him realize the consequences of defying the will of the people.
1 posted on 04/07/2009 11:30:28 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: Ol' Sparky

Get out of those hay fields and carry those pitchforks.


2 posted on 04/07/2009 11:33:02 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: Ol' Sparky
We are in the midst of a serious economic recession," said Culver, pointing to rising unemployment and last summer's record flooding. "That is where, I believe, my focus and energies should lie."

Some of us believe that we are in the beginning stages of the judgment of God on this nation.

I hope I'm wrong.

3 posted on 04/07/2009 11:37:53 PM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: Ol' Sparky

Since there are two people in the story who are designated as Repubs and since the Governor’s party is nowhere designated as is usual with the MSM when they want to hide the Dem party ID, I assume we can safely assume he is a Demoncrat?


4 posted on 04/07/2009 11:39:37 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Ol' Sparky

OK Iowa, it’s time to replace some judges and legislators.

And a governor.


5 posted on 04/07/2009 11:40:39 PM PDT by Marie2 (The capacity for self-government is a moral quality. Only a moral people can be free.)
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To: P-Marlowe
Some of us believe that we are in the beginning stages of the judgment of God on this nation.

We might be on the verge of the rise of the Antichrist to power, who might just be Obama himself. But, Christians and conservatives need to go down swinging. Complacency isn't going to cut it anymore. It's time to get as militant as leftists.

6 posted on 04/07/2009 11:40:45 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: P-Marlowe
So the Governor is going to focus on the economic crisis? Right. Translation: He's going to pretend to do stuff and hope the economy turns around, as it always does, in time for reelection.

Whereas the marriage issue is actually something he can do something about-- what does he do? He punts.

7 posted on 04/07/2009 11:43:44 PM PDT by exist
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To: exist

The gay ragers have intimidated the wits out of too many career politicians. The Guv doesn’t cotton to the idea of angry flamers bedecked in feathers and leather marching on the capitol.


8 posted on 04/07/2009 11:46:52 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: Ol' Sparky

The Antichrist needs the fatal head wound which is miraculously healed, in order to fulfill prophecy.

Maybe the Birthers succeed in getting Obama deposed (or to quit) as President, whereupon there conveniently turns up a vacancy for the U.N. Secretary-General and voila, he’s named King of the World.

As for the gays, the battle happening now in the USA is what Europe saw some decadent decades ago. They’re probably a minor part of the story.


9 posted on 04/07/2009 11:50:36 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: Ol' Sparky
However, Culver said the issue before the court in its unanimous ruling Friday involved only civil marriage, and that churches and other religious institutions do not have to perform them.

Yeah right. I give it a month before some homosexuals sue an Iowa church because it won't marry them, or won't let them use their facilities to get married.

10 posted on 04/07/2009 11:50:54 PM PDT by vrwc1
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To: vrwc1

The minister will be in no trouble, but the facilities question is an issue. If the church lets out the use of their building for anything not church related (perhaps even only as a polling place) then they may be forced to let any Tom, Dick, or Harry in.


11 posted on 04/07/2009 11:54:51 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: Ol' Sparky; what's up

Yes, of course he’s a democrat.


12 posted on 04/08/2009 12:05:54 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (In honor of my late father-Gysgt/Comm. Chief, USMC WWII, Korea 1925-2002)
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To: IowaHawk; iowamark

Something’s rotten in the state of Iowa. Something may be rotten on FR too (some other threads of this ilk have gotten shunted to Bloggers & Personal)


13 posted on 04/08/2009 12:09:42 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Something may be rotten on FR too (some other threads of this ilk have gotten shunted to Bloggers & Personal)
The pink triangle mafia secretly controls FR? LOL.



14 posted on 04/08/2009 1:49:22 AM PDT by peyton randolph
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Democrat Culver, of course, supports homosexual marriage. He appointed the justices who overruled the marriage laws. Since he is up for reelection next year, he is trying to play both sides by saying that he is “personally” opposed and publicly in favor.

BTW, Jim Robinson isn't perfect but I don't think that he has any sympathy for redefining marriage

15 posted on 04/08/2009 2:03:49 AM PDT by iowamark (certified by Michael Steele as "ugly and incendiary")
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To: P-Marlowe

Wait until Iowa crops start to fail, and our food prices go through the roof. California suffered fires and drought galore after their Supreme Court legalized same-sex “marriage.” My favorite example is Russia. After it became officially atheist in 1922 (USSR established), it was one bad harvest after another.


16 posted on 04/08/2009 4:11:25 AM PDT by seatrout (I wouldn't know most "American Idol" winners if I tripped over them!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
You bet! Social Engineering in the heart land! It will not happen up here in N WI. I will raise HOLY HELL!!! Its bad enough WI. Has a lezzie Assistant Atty. General! And she is also a communist! Come up here! It would be my pleasure,to demonstrate rural justice my way.
17 posted on 04/08/2009 11:16:00 AM PDT by katiekins1 (i bow to no one)
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To: Ol' Sparky
Off topic but related. Dear Iowa,pay attention to your ILLEGAL DNR changes! In WI. I see they are changing our hunting RIGHTS! I will not change mine. Its our RIGHT! Changing regulations etc, to confuse the average hunter. Please monitor this.
18 posted on 04/08/2009 11:25:37 AM PDT by katiekins1 (i bow to no one)
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To: seatrout

Seems like too small a data set to conclude a purely divine curse. Communism’s curse was that of being just plain stupid. Men fancied they could do better with a planned economy than with a free one, but the vagaries of sun and rain and climate and crop growth never followed the plan. So there was agricultural waste. California has had one year with this idiot court (before Prop. 8 arguably mooted it) and commonly gets fires and droughts. Probably the Westborans won’t get their wishes/prophecies in Iowa either. Not even Sodom went under until the last “righteous” people had fled.


19 posted on 04/08/2009 11:44:06 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: iowamark

Does Iowa’s Culver have any relationship with the Culver chain of ice cream and “butterburger” joints?


20 posted on 04/08/2009 11:47:12 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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