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"None of us like raising taxes," Schwarzenegger said. "(But) anyone who says you can solve this without raising taxes is hallucinating, is on drugs or has a math problem."

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You jump first, Gub.

Enjoy the ride to the bottom.

1 posted on 04/08/2009 8:46:59 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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ping for later


2 posted on 04/08/2009 8:49:03 PM PDT by mick (Central Banker Capitalism is NOT Free Enterprise)
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The wealth flight from CA will be massive.

It will start with businesses and those who rent but do well.

I was planning to move but I couldn’t make the numbers work. But I won’t be buying anything of substance in CA — I am willing to schlep stuff from other states where I work to save 2 or 4 percent.


3 posted on 04/08/2009 8:57:38 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks.)
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It won’t pass. People in my state are fed up. Even many Democrats are pissed off. Everyone in the sate just assumes Arnold is a Democrat now, he is so far left in his spaending and taxing.....If the GOP could get it’s act together in this state, they could elect a Republican Governor and unseat that bitch Barbara Boxer in 2010 as well as gain some seast in the state assembly and senate. But so far, the California GOP is a disaster.


4 posted on 04/08/2009 8:58:21 PM PDT by AmericanSphinx71 (Pray for America)
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Increasing tax rates decreases tax revenues as the afflicted flee to a less onerous location...out of the state of CA. Those most afflicted are also those most capable of relocating to a better place. Their numbers are small, their "contributions" are substantial. When they go, they will be missed and not easily replaced.
5 posted on 04/08/2009 8:59:28 PM PDT by Myrddin
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With masses ready to follow Limbaugh out of NY, and, Californians being forced out also, a mighty collision may occur, say in Kansas or Florida. Tax base collapse is a common denominator in all states now, and, efforts by the Fed govt. to delay things is driven by a desire to buy time to transfer as much property to other coffers before the mechanism for transfer, the big banks and financial entities (e.g. AIG) fold themselves. ...hardly something to cause a drumbeat to save profligate California.

There is no sign that we will still have our freedom when the time for a recovery comes around, or that any interest in our freedom will be the object of government at that time. The leaning to the left by this administration is to the left of known leftists, and hardly reassurring. The Congressional Black Caucus has just visited and celebrated Fidel Castro...what happened to Obama?

Bailing out California is not to be recommended..same with all other states.

Both the state of California and the Fed Govt are after the funds in the battered CALPERS pension funds....unconscionably...and, the pension funds are being pressured to accept TOXIC assets by Geithner. Calpers should not avail their threatened pension funds any further. That Swarzenegger is asking for CALPERS money is representative of how desperate he is, for Geithner..the same.


8 posted on 04/08/2009 9:08:39 PM PDT by givemELL (Does Taiwan Meet the Criteria to Qualify as an "Overseas Territory of the United States"? by Richar)
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I hope it fails miserably


9 posted on 04/08/2009 9:09:04 PM PDT by GeronL
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Cut massively you pos rino governor. Then take out the ax and fire 1 out of every 4 government employees. Then step down in shame.


10 posted on 04/08/2009 9:10:40 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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Schwarzenegger just doesn't get it.

He is way in over his head, he is being played by the very people he tried to fight against in 2003. Schwarzenegger thought Sacramento would be a movie set where he would ride in with chiseled arms holding a variety of firearms and weapons, while the crooks and cronies in the state capitol all fall to the ground (Cue Wilhelm screams).

11 posted on 04/08/2009 9:14:49 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
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bump


12 posted on 04/08/2009 9:15:00 PM PDT by lowbridge (It's not that liberals are ignorant, it's that they know so much that isn't so - Ronald Reagan)
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You know, I’d hate to give the White House ideas, but when he started tossing around trillions like they were nothing, I thought that another move for him to make would be to address every state’s budget deficit. In a real Federalism-destroying move, he can toss them enough federal money to wipe out their total deficit as long as they balance their annual budget. Millions of voters (and especially retired teachers and state workers) would be ecstatic, he’d make vassals of every state government, he’d have strings to control every state on important issues, and it would only waste another trillion or so. He’d look like he was promoting fiscal responsiblity, he’d be using our own money against us to give an excuse to control every level of government, and he’d be hailed as a hero while continuing to flush trillions down a bottomless pit.


15 posted on 04/08/2009 9:21:05 PM PDT by Teacher317
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I wonder what the Governor and the Legislature say when confronted with the fact that state spending has far exceeded both the CPI and population increases and state employee numbers have continued to climb rapidly ...


16 posted on 04/08/2009 9:21:51 PM PDT by sailor4321
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"If they don't pass, we will be facing a $50 billion problem," Schwarzenegger said at a meeting with Daily News editors and reporters. "It will mean massive cuts in education, hospitals, prisons. These are things people don't want to see cut."

"When we are able to explain to the people, they get it," Schwarzenegger said. "We know people are furious. But once we explain to them what we are trying to do, they support it."

"None of us like raising taxes," Schwarzenegger said. "(But) anyone who says you can solve this without raising taxes is hallucinating, is on drugs or has a math problem."

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19 posted on 04/08/2009 9:39:55 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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"When I was running, I opposed taxes. I despise taxes," Schwarzenegger said.
"But when you get in this office, you see things differently.
You realize how important these services are to the people."

ROFL! He is such a pathetic spineless girly man liberal dolt!

23 posted on 04/08/2009 9:45:15 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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“None of us like raising taxes,” Schwarzenegger said. “(But) anyone who says you can solve this without raising taxes is hallucinating, is on drugs or has a math problem.”

Schwarzenegger has a reality problem. I’m not hallucinating or on drugs and I don’t have a “math problem”.

The state government has a SPENDING problem that is bankrupting the state and its citizens. The state already has practically the highest taxes in the country.

CUT THE DAMN SPENDING YOU FREAKING MORONS!


35 posted on 04/08/2009 10:15:50 PM PDT by DB
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"None of us like raising taxes," Schwarzenegger said. "But anyone who says you can solve this without raising taxes is hallucinating, is on drugs or has a math problem."

Joel Fox, a Republican consultant and former president of the Jarvis association who accompanied Schwarzenegger at the meeting, supports the measures. "This is a flexible cap that will survive," Fox said. "None of us like taxes. But..."

Despite bipartisan agreement in Sacramento over the measures...

Yes. I absolutely MUST be hallucinating.

36 posted on 04/08/2009 10:17:07 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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When the People's Republik of Kalifornia shuts down the office which is charged with enforcing the law against me having a plastic pistol grip on my rifle, then I might believe that they have a budget crisis. And not before.

I'm tired of providing taxes used to infringe my right to keep and bear arms. Let the public employees eat cake.

39 posted on 04/08/2009 10:29:32 PM PDT by William Tell
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The Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association has come out against Proposition 1A, saying it's a tax increase that does nothing to rein in spending.

"It has a built-in loophole allowing them to increase spending if they get more revenue," said Jon Coupal, president of the organization.

40 posted on 04/08/2009 10:29:43 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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Sorry Girlyman...

Looks like you’re sol!


42 posted on 04/08/2009 10:33:52 PM PDT by Randy Larsen ( BTW, If I offend you! Please let me know, I may want to offend you again!)
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Why would I care about saving a Ca state employees job when they could give a rats ass about me losing mine.


45 posted on 04/08/2009 11:13:42 PM PDT by Always Independent
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What happens to the initiatives that were recently passed? Anyone know? Like the “Safe, Reliable High-Speed Passenger Train Bond Act that just passed last year?

What happens when the voters vote for initiatives that cost money but the state has no money? Are they just put on hold? Or do they just fade away?


47 posted on 04/08/2009 11:46:44 PM PDT by Auntie Mame (Fear not tomorrow. God is already there.)
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