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Obama Doubles Down On the Bow to the Saudi King
The American Thinker ^ | 4/9/09 | By Thomas Lifson

Posted on 04/09/2009 9:37:59 AM PDT by lewisglad

April 09, 2009 Obama doubles down on the bow to the Saudi King By Thomas Lifson The White House is denying that President Obama bowed before the Saudi King, committing a major mistake. Ben Smith of Politico reports:

"It wasn't a bow. He grasped his hand with two hands, and he's taller than King Abdullah," said an Obama aide, who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

Michael Goldfarb summed up the problem for Obama succinctly in the Weekly Standard:

So who you going to believe -- Barack Obama or your lying eyes?

The story is officially "in play" now that the White House has spoken, albeit from an anonymous source. American citizens are implicitly asked to view the demi-prostration and decide for themselves. The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration.


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1 posted on 04/09/2009 9:37:59 AM PDT by lewisglad
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So why would the White House lie, instead of just admitting that the President made a gaffe? Well, for one thing, history teaches us that bows between official representatives of nations are a rather serious matter.

We live in an age of a Clash of Civilizations (in Samuel Huntington's words), with many in the Islamic world convinced that Western Civilization, ascendant for the last few centuries, is about to be humbled by Islam, the once and future dominant force in the world. No Caliph exists today as head of the entire Islamic world, but the number two slot is amply occupied by King Abdullah, as guardian of Mecca and Medina, Islam's two holiest cities.

Over three hundred years ago, another world civilization accustomed to being the largest and richest on earth, faced a challenge which turned into a clash, which turned into a fall. China, the Middle Kingdom, unquestioned as the dominant nation of East Asia, came into regular contact with the Western nations. At the time, the only pattern of diplomatic relations recognized by the Son of Heaven (China's emperor) and his court was that of tributary emissaries to the Middle Kingdom. Japan, Korea, Vietnam, and the other nations of East Asia understood and accepted that China was dominant, and when their representatives came to Beijing, they performed the required prostration acknowledging their (and their rulers') subordinate place in the pecking order. They also brought "gifts" to the Son of Heaven, and were sent home with "gifts" from the Imperial Court, amounting to trade, disguised as nothing so crass as commerce, but rather as a sign of supplication from them and benevolence from the Emperor.

In plain English, if you wanted to be received and recognized as legitimate at the Imperial Court, you had better bow down before the Emperor in a kow tow (叩頭), prostrating oneself before the glorious ruler, and touching the head to the floor.

This was not an idle matter of protocol, and everyone knew it, especially the emissaries of European rulers who made their way to Beijing, in search of trade relations: tea, silk, porcelain, and other products of China that were of finer quality than anything available elsewhere.

One of the most famous incidents in China's history of contact with the West occurred in 1793, when the Earl of Macartney came to Beijing as an emissary of the King of England, carried to Tientsin (the port city for Beijing) on a warship. The Chinese officials deemed the presents he brought to the Emperor from King George III as "tribute", putting the Macartney mission in the context of traditional tribute relatons.

But when it came to the kow tow, Macartney refused. In the words of the acknowledged dean of American China historians, the late John K. Fairbank of Harvard,

[Court officials] urged Macartney to practice the performance of the kowtow. This he stoutly refused to do, and he only went down on one knee before the Chien-lung [the Emperor], as he would have done to his own sovereign. The emperor issued an edict commending King George III for his "respectful spirit of submission" but pointing out that "our celestial empire possesses all things in prolific abundance"...

Ben Smith noted a somewhat analogous response from Saudi Arabia, following the fateful bow:

Interestingly, a columnist in the Saudi-backed Arabic paper Asharq Alawsat also took the gesture as a bow and appreciated the move.

"Obama wished to demonstrate his respect and appreciation of the personality of King Abdullah Bin Abdulaziz, who has made one of the most important calls in the modern era, namely the call for inter-faith and inter-cultural dialogue to defuse the hatred, conflict and wars," wrote the columnist, Muhammah Diyab.

Alas for the Son of Heaven and his nation, the Opium War followed a few years after the demi-prostration of the British envoy, and it was established that China was subordinate to the cannons, guns, and warships of the Western powers, who proceeded to help themselves to China's wealth, sending opium [over China's feeble objections] in return for what they desired.

President Obama voluntarily bent his knee and bowed his head before the most important ruler in the Islamic world. Let us hope that it does not require a war to right this insult to American sovereignty.

2 posted on 04/09/2009 9:40:16 AM PDT by lewisglad
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To: lewisglad

Obama aide another rider on the little school bus.


3 posted on 04/09/2009 9:41:23 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: lewisglad

I will say no more about this traitor/worthless POS, we will suffer because of his hate American stance.


4 posted on 04/09/2009 9:41:35 AM PDT by boomop1
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To: lewisglad

Thanks for the screenshot. There are two videos; one is from an angle where you can’t see the hand. It’s clear in this one that he either has 3 hands or is a liar.


5 posted on 04/09/2009 9:41:43 AM PDT by douginthearmy (Until I get the proper order at the drive-thru, the unemployment rate is too LOW!)
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The POSPOTUS was bowing! Wanna bet he even touched the hand of the King to his forehead? Typical supplication to a mohammedan!
6 posted on 04/09/2009 9:42:06 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration.

This statement will be used in history books describing this admin. And I just got a new tagline.

7 posted on 04/09/2009 9:42:09 AM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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8 posted on 04/09/2009 9:42:09 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: lewisglad

If that’s not a bow then he’s trying to sodomize the Saudi king.


9 posted on 04/09/2009 9:42:47 AM PDT by MissEdie (America went to the polls on 11-4-08 and all we got was a socialist and a dottering old fool.)
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To: lewisglad

Yet over 50% of our population believes anything that comes out of that slimes mouth, because they think it sounds good.

We are so screwed.


10 posted on 04/09/2009 9:43:56 AM PDT by Gator113 (For America to Survive, Obama Must Fail..... Obama=Failure in Chief with the Audacity of Dope.....)
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FUBO is a muslim.

It is only fit and proper that he should bow before the most important muslim in the world ;-)

11 posted on 04/09/2009 9:44:23 AM PDT by evad (YES!! I WANT FUBO's Agenda TO FAIL!!!)
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12 posted on 04/09/2009 9:44:37 AM PDT by Andy from Beaverton (I'm so anti-pc, I use a Mac)
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To: lewisglad

If it was a handshake why was his head bowed, instead of looking at the king eye to eye?


14 posted on 04/09/2009 9:46:26 AM PDT by sharkhawk (Here come the Hawks)
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An almost obscenely obvious example of body language.
Anybody can read it.
It is an inescapable fact that Obama will keep doing stuff
like this,in policy and on the personal/sociological level, that tells you in no uncertain terms just who he is.
He can’t help it. I KNOW he’s being cautioned now about this, because stuff like this can only sour “the folks” further on all the OTHER stuff he’s doing that few are happy with, and they cannot afford having the electorate see bows to a Saudi King as being all of a piece with every thing else. THis guy is actually turning out to be worse than I thought he’d be, and I almost can’t believe that. But just watch the “new protocol” slowly take over Obama’s “global persona”. It amazes me further that even those who DON’T support him, want him to wise up and learn some stuff real quick: they want to tell him what he should do, ignoring the fact that he doesn’t care, and that he is telling them relentlessly who he is. DO NOT PLEAD, or CAJOLE or adopt a “Please, President Obama” tone over ANYTHING. Let him hang himself.


15 posted on 04/09/2009 9:46:25 AM PDT by supremedoctrine ("Time is the school in which we learn that time is the fire in which we burn"--Delmore Schwartz)
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To: Red_Devil 232

I’ll bet he kissed the Kings ring.


16 posted on 04/09/2009 9:47:07 AM PDT by Gator113 (For America to Survive, Obama Must Fail..... Obama=Failure in Chief with the Audacity of Dope.....)
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To: lewisglad

Can you imagine the conspiracy theorists and anti-oil nuts if Bush had done anything remotely like this?


17 posted on 04/09/2009 9:47:21 AM PDT by BuckyKat
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One thing’s for certain, there is not one single solitary person in the muslim world who thinks it wasn’t a bow.


18 posted on 04/09/2009 9:47:21 AM PDT by scottinoc
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To: sharkhawk

That is so true. Everyone knows the first rule of an effective handshake is to look the person straight in the eye.


19 posted on 04/09/2009 9:49:15 AM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: lewisglad
and he's taller than King Abdullah," said an Obama aide

Three feet taller?.....lying sacks of sh*t

20 posted on 04/09/2009 9:49:36 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (Real "arrogance" is enslaving MY grandkids for Zero's utopia)
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