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Proposal To Let Illegals Vote Sparks Outrage
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Posted on 04/10/2009 9:35:41 PM PDT by Chet 99

Apr 9, 2009 7:15 pm US/Eastern

Proposal To Let Illegals Vote Sparks Outrage

A Framingham representative admits her idea to allow illegal immigrants to vote in town elections is controversial.

Rep. Pam Richardson pitched the idea to fellow democrats in a meeting. But when word hit the Internet the angry calls started coming.

Now Richardson is doing some damage control.

"Its probably not likely I will push for this," she said.

Richardson admits she is backing off.

She floated the idea in a meeting with democrats over their state party platform. She said let illegal immigrants vote locally and they will be better neighbors.

"You want people who live in your community to feel they are part of the community," she said.

Where she lives in Framingham many places don't even have English on the menu.

"People are here paying taxes, and they shouldn't be treated differently than other people," one person told WBZ.

But those aren't the calls Richardson is fielding after the video hit YouTube.

"It's a terrible idea," one man said. "I think our representatives are insane."

"If you are a citizen of this country you have a say in what goes on," a woman said. "If you don't become a citizen you shouldn't have that right."

The anger is overwhelming Richardson's office, and what she thought was a cutting edge idea is now apparently dead.

"It takes an unselfish act to stick you neck out and say something when you realize politically it's potentially going to be a negative," Richardson said.

Richardson tells WBZ she will wait a few weeks to gather more community input. The state democrats meet in June where she would pitch her idea if she chooses to do so.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; democrats; electionfraud; illegalalien; illegalvote; teaparty; voterfraud
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To: Chet 99

It is amazing how darwin has worked in Mass. in the past several hundred years. From the finest intellectuals on our continent to the most stupid of our whole nation.

Just how dumb can you get?


41 posted on 04/11/2009 1:15:54 AM PDT by XBob (Jail the employers of the INVADERS !!)
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To: Chet 99
She should have waited for the official word from oscumbo.

It'll be coming soon enough.

42 posted on 04/11/2009 1:46:36 AM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: XBob
No. That award has to go to Minn.
At least we haven't elected a muslim or a washed up tv wrestler [yet] to any office.
43 posted on 04/11/2009 4:40:18 AM PDT by ex91B10
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To: ex91B10

Keith Maurice Ellison (born August 4, 1963) is an American lawyer and politician belonging to the Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party. He became the first Muslim[1][2] to be elected to the United States Congress when he won the open seat for Minnesota’s 5th congressional district,


44 posted on 04/11/2009 4:51:17 AM PDT by sausageseller (http://coolblue.typepad.com/the_cool_blue_blog/)
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To: ex91B10

I guess sarcasm is lost on my brain this beautiful am.


45 posted on 04/11/2009 4:54:35 AM PDT by sausageseller (http://coolblue.typepad.com/the_cool_blue_blog/)
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To: Ronin
The fact that they could be reliably expected to vote Democrat had absolutely nothing to do with her brainstorm at all. Right?

Trust me. As a citizen of the Benighted Commonwealth of Massachusetts, I can assure you that Democrats don't need the votes of illegals to win elections here.

46 posted on 04/11/2009 4:59:11 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: Chet 99
The anger is overwhelming Richardson's office, and what she thought was a cutting edge idea is now apparently dead.

Overwhelming? Noooooooooo kidding. Ignorant jerk.

47 posted on 04/11/2009 6:03:29 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Chet 99
The story of "good neighbors" who came here for a "better life"......just "God's children" living the "American Dream" (sob).

Husband And Wife Plead Guilty To Massive Florida Straw Buyer Scheme

Staff Reporter, 06/02/08

Juan and Rachael Torrens pled guilty to conspiracy charges in connection with their participation in a recent multi-million dollar mortgage fraud scheme in South Florida. The defendants acknowledged as part of their guilty plea that their scheme produced over $15,000,000 in fraudulent loans, and resulted in losses of over $5,000,000 to various lenders. With Juan and Rachael Torrens‘ guilty pleas, 15 of the original 31 defendants charged have pled guilty.

As previously reported by Mortgage Fraud Blog, defendants Juan Torrens, the de facto owner of Amsouth Trust & Investment Corp. (”Amsouth”) and president of Countryside Land & Development, Inc., Rachael Torrens, president of 1st Choice Realty of South Florida, Inc. and de facto owner of First United Mortgage USA Corp., Daniel Ramos, Alfonso A. Muxo, a State of Florida certified real estate appraiser and owner of Palm Bay Real Estate Appraisals, Inc., and Katherine Harris, former president and part owner of Floridian Home Title Corporation, were charged with conspiracy to commit wire fraud and/or wire fraud for their participation in this massive mortgage fraud scheme.

The scheme involved fraudulent mortgage loans obtained for the purchase of 28 properties located in Miami-Dade and Broward Counties, Florida, and in the City of Marco Island. All except Katherine Harris have already pled guilty, and are awaiting sentence.

The Indictment also charges defendants Mario E. Diaz, Aurelio Pozo, Oscar Barreiro, Lellany Rordriguez, Jose Asensi, Carlos Morales, Damaris Jimenez, Lizabeth Perez, Mario Blanco, Rene Rodriguez, Tamaris Angulo, Alicia Loaiza, Ester Crespo, Jesus Enrique Guevara, Janette Lugo, Priscilla Fleitas, Erick Clavijo, Luis DeJesus Planas, Moises Llorens, Milva Roque, Aurora Ramentol, Gladys Lens, Nancy Fundora, Yanny Cruz Pavon, Roger Rosario and Jacqueline Perez-Castillo ("the straw buyer defendants") with wire fraud for their participation in this mortgage fraud scheme. To date, guilty pleas have been entered by defendants Aurelio Pozo, Oscar Barreiro, Carlos Morales, Damaris Jimenez, Mario Blanco, Jesus Enrique Guevara, Janette Lugo, Priscilla Fleitas, Moises Llorens, Gladys Lens, and Roger Rosario.

According to the Indictment, Juan Torrens would identify sellers of residential properties who were willing to overstate the true selling price of their properties. Daniel Ramos and Juan Torrens would then recruit and pay the straw buyer defendants to pose as buyers and ostensibly participate in the purchase of the selected properties. Defendants Rachael Torrens and Juan Torrens would prepare fraudulent mortgage loan applications for the straw purchasers that included false employment verifications, pay stubs, income and funds on deposit, and IRS Forms W-2.

Thereafter, to support the overstated sales prices on the properties and the fraudulent mortgage applications, defendant Alonso A. Muxo would prepare fraudulent appraisals attesting to the inflated property values dictated by Juan Torrens. Roger Rosario, an employee of Regions Bank, assisted the fraud by providing, on at least one occasion, a fraudulent verification of deposit in connection with a mortgage loan application for one of the straw buyer defendants.

To effectuate the scheme, defendants Juan Torrens and Rachael Torrens, together with the straw buyer defendants, would create and submit to the banks and lending institutions HUD-Settlement Statement Forms, also known as HUD-1s, which falsely stated that the straw buyers brought their own funds to the closings. Once the mortgage applications were approved, the lenders would wire the loan proceeds to the title company, Floridian Home Title, for closing. At closing, Amsouth, a company owned and controlled by Juan Torrens, would receive a credit for the difference between the inflated price and the actual selling price of the property. Defendants Juan and Rachael Torrens would make the payments on the mortgage loans to maintain the loans afloat until the properties could be resold again, often to another straw buyer.

When the Torrenses failed to make payments on the loans, some properties went into foreclosure, resulting in substantial losses to the lending institutions (and US taxpayers).

48 posted on 04/11/2009 9:59:53 AM PDT by Liz (I was like Snow White, then I drifted. Mae West (on liberalism.)
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The story of "good neighbors," here for a "better life"......just "God's children" living the "American Dream"......getting on the US gravy train, sucking off US taxpayers and draining the US Treasury dry.

July 21, 2006
Two held in bust of bogus ID operation

NORTH BERGEN, NJ -- Pelcastre brothers, Angel and Jorge, Dallas, were a walking threat to US national security, expert document forgers who, for a few thousand dollars, could give anyone a new identity, authorities said.

The two men turned a Tonnelle Avenue hotel room into a business office and were readying a massive cache of fake Social Security cards for delivery to a local identity broker.

They were a "one-stop shop" for a myriad of fake US documents, including birth certificates, Social Security cards, driver's licenses for any state in the US, passports and resident alien cards, said state police.

Officers happened upon two cars bearing Texas plates in a hotel parking lot. Authorities wouldn't identify the hotel by name for fear it would spark retribution. The Drug Interdiction Task Force, regularly runs checks. The brothers were followed to an office supply store nearby where they purchased computer supplies. Officers then followed the brothers to a storage facility in Secaucus, where they loaded several boxes into a car. One of them stood lookout. Authorities approached them when they returned to the hotel and questioned them separately. The brothers consented to a search.

Police recovered laminating sheets with built-in security features, pages of blank documents waiting for fake names and information, finished documents, computers and software to create the fake IDs.

All told, the haul was worth about $500,000 on the street. Police also recovered $6,000 in cash, which was the first payment from a fake document broker for a shipment of 500 Social Security cards.

49 posted on 04/11/2009 10:05:25 AM PDT by Liz (I was like Snow White, then I drifted. Mae West (on liberalism.)
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To: Liz

Are firing squads still in vogue???


50 posted on 04/13/2009 6:49:17 PM PDT by stevie_d_64
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