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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 12 April 2009
Various driveby media television networks ^ | 12 April 2009 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 04/12/2009 4:58:08 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

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To: Alas Babylon!; Phsstpok
Thank You, For your (literary :) efforts....the research must be difficult @ times.
161 posted on 04/12/2009 7:56:56 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (just b/c you're paranoid, doesn't mean "they" aren't out to get you.. :^)
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To: mojitojoe

Too demanding, too wild, too high maintenance.

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No prob for Emperor and Empress Obama.

The idea that this choice of breed was a surprise is just another example of “reporters” insulting American recipients of “news.”

I knew last fall that the girls were going to get a gift from Uncle Teddy of a Portuguese water dog. I am positive that everyone in the political ‘reporting’ business knew it, too.

The fact that it is not suitable for White House life is so secondary as to be totally irrelevant.

It will have its own staff around the clock!


162 posted on 04/13/2009 7:36:14 AM PDT by maica (Politics is not about facts. it is about what politicians can get people to believe. - Thomas Sowell)
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To: Alas Babylon!; Fishtalk; Miss Marple; Freee-dame

Belated Happy Easter to all!

I have been travelling and not able to watch the Sunday shows for a few weeks. Thanks to all for your input that kept me up to speed.

This thread seems to be the appropriate place to record my most amazing Easter Vigil experience. It took place at the Newman Center/parish church at Cal Berkeley.

The church was eccentric: stylized formwork grey concrete walls, carved dark grey stone altar, minimalist flower arrangements in a style reminiscent of Japanese Ikebana.

Fishtalk: the choir was fantastic; really first rate. What a huge amount of work!

The words to all of the sung components were projected on a huge (grey) screen off center of the front wall of the church. The choir and musicians were also under this screen in the front corner of the church.

The seven readings were as expected. The congregation did not have any written material in the pews, so participation was only by listening, by a standing room only crowd.

It got a bit confusing after the seventh reading when the words “Alleluia, alleluia, alleluia” went up on the screen. People stood to hear the Gospel, and - were told to be seated again. While someone read the gospel, (I do not think it was a priest), we had a Dance Ensemble demonstrate it - the three women going to the tomb, meeting a person dressed in white who told them that Christ was Risen. The person dressed in white, draped himself over the table that would become the altar a little later, and the three women gyrated around the altar. I felt like I was at a wiccan ceremony.

There was another dance later in the Mass with more women, now dressed in white, and another man dressed in white robes - I forget at which point this happened. The man in white used the incense censer extravagantly. The women’s dresses had long scarf-like extensions of their sleeves and these ‘ribbons’ were waved around like an Olympic competition of rhythmic gymnastics.

Two people were baptized - by full immersion! And about twelve people received Confirmation and First Communion.

Mass finally ended and the celebrant asked everyone to join the dancers in winding their way around the church in joyous celebration. My son and I did not get into what was essentially a conga line, but as we moved toward the exit all of the priests and deacons who had been on the altar passed us in this conga line.

I guess Berkeley folks enjoy drama.


163 posted on 04/13/2009 10:22:30 AM PDT by maica (Politics is not about facts. it is about what politicians can get people to believe. - Thomas Sowell)
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To: maica

I sure enjoyed your description.

Easter vigils are something new to me, this year being only my second and the first year I was in the choir for it.

At our vigil everyone starts outside around the fire pit. All church lights are out and the processional goes into the chuch. All attendees are given unlit candles.

After everyone gets to their seat, the candles are lit. The mass begins and goes on for almost an hour, all still in the dark and with the candles lit. Which is really cool if you are in the choir as we need FLASHLIGHTS to see the music plus we have this lit candle thing going on.

Our choir director got real creative and wrote his own responsorials so we had all these handouts which half of us did not have. The cantors are all from the choir, of course, plus there’s something called a family litany, a little band kind of thing.

Heh. Well it went off okay, one baptism, four confirmations, no communions...didn’t know they had them. Finally after an hour the lights come on and the guys come around to collect the candles. Only everyone was confused and thought it was a collection for money so the baskets got filled half with burnt candles and half with Easter offerings.

Heh.

Frankly your Easter vigil sounds much more breath-taking. That bit about putting the words on the wall is cool as jiggling candles and flashlights is a bit dangerous don’t you know.

There were also new stations of the cross things up and we didn’t know if they were temporary or what but they were colorful and lilies were affixed below them on the stained glass windows.


164 posted on 04/13/2009 1:21:30 PM PDT by Fishtalk (The Messiah's Secret Plan to Stimulate Economy: Make Democrats Pay Their Taxes!)
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To: maica
I went to a wedding once that had sacred dancers. They were in the same sort of outfits and did their dancing up on the stage area where the altar was (non-denominational Protestant Church).

They danced to recordings of the bride singing. Unfortunately, because of the stage being plywood covered with carpet, every time they leaped and landed there was a decided thud from the hollow plywood.

I do not care for sacred dance, even at weddings, so I kept my eyes focused on the floor and was patiently waiting for it to end. Every time I heard a thud I bit my lip to keep from giggling.

Then Mr. Marple leaned over and said "I feel like Coach at Kelly's wedding." I commenced giggling silently and had to pretend I was having a coughing attack.

The next day I was at a soccer game and a bunch of mothers (who had also been at the wedding) were there. "Wasn't that the most beautiful wedding?" No accounting for taste, I guess.

I think sacred dance is not supposed to be done in a mass, but as a convert I am not up on all of these things. I know for sure they aren't supposed to be draping themselves over the altar. I guess since it was at Berkley we should be glad there weren't giant puppets.

165 posted on 04/13/2009 1:57:38 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Fishtalk

At our vigil everyone starts outside around the fire pit. All church lights are out and the processional goes into the chuch. All attendees are given unlit candles.

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I really like that part of the ritual - waiting for the Risen Christ. Powerful symbolism.


166 posted on 04/13/2009 2:05:50 PM PDT by maica (Politics is not about facts. it is about what politicians can get people to believe. - Thomas Sowell)
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To: Miss Marple

No giant puppets, and no Code Pinks at the recruiting station.
My son’s housemate is a Navy Recruiter and says it has been very quiet since Obama’s election.

Having a large, graceful, coffee color-skinned 40 year old man, dressed in white ‘sheets’, sitting on the altar was enough of a mindjolting experience for one evening.

That made the immersion baptisms seem conservative.


167 posted on 04/13/2009 2:15:32 PM PDT by maica (Politics is not about facts. it is about what politicians can get people to believe. - Thomas Sowell)
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To: maica

Wow! I wouldn’t have been able to take it. I would have left right then and there. Maybe I’d have to go to confession later, but I’m sorry, dancing—and gyrating—at mass just isn’t right.

Thank God I go to mass at my little country parish with Father Francis X. Lynch, CM, as pastor. Father Fran’s 87 years old, and he wouldn’t allow such nonsense.

God help us when he’s called up!


168 posted on 04/13/2009 3:45:58 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Fishtalk
At our vigil everyone starts outside around the fire pit. All church lights are out and the processional goes into the chuch. All attendees are given unlit candles.

We do exactly the same! Only problem is we never seem to have enough candles and some little kid without one starts to crying. I usually give him/her mine.

169 posted on 04/13/2009 3:47:40 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Laverne

Hey, BGF! You going to a Tea Party tomorrow?


170 posted on 04/14/2009 7:02:54 PM PDT by ru4liberty
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To: ru4liberty

Hey BGF - good to see you; hope all is well.

Planning on it, there are two here (same location) one from 12-2 and another from 5-7 tonight. I’m hoping to get to the evening one. And you?

Only FNC is really reporting on them, the other networks are ignoring them...can’t allow the “peoples voices” to be heard unless they praise the Won. Egads, media has sunk lower than I ever thought they would....both CNN and MSNBC are playing that “teabagging” line now....sick, sicker, sickest.

I’ll be looking forward to reading all the reports on these events tomorrow.


171 posted on 04/15/2009 3:16:23 AM PDT by Laverne
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To: Laverne
Yes, a couple of co-workers and I will be attending one this evening after work. Can't wait!

What is the “teabagging” line?

Be sure to watch out for loathsome lefties who intend to crash the tea parties. You know how much they HATE free speech by those who disagree with them.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2229244/posts

P.S. How about our governor!!!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2228983/posts

172 posted on 04/15/2009 4:09:01 AM PDT by ru4liberty
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To: ru4liberty

I had to look “teabagging” up myself. I won’t explain it here, suffice it to say it’s jouvenile and perverse for both CNN and MSNBC to be using it in the context they are using it. You can google it, but be prepared.

You have a far better Governor than we do here.

Glad you are finding the time to go....enjoy. You bringing a sign? I plan on attending, but with no sign (busy at work so I haven’t had time to make one), plus hubby and I finished our taxes last night....we are still looking for a way to apply the Geithner rule so we don’t have to pay. No luck yet though....so I’ll be going to the post office today to get that dreaded post mark...unlike our Treasury Secretary, I consider myself a responsible citizen who plays by the rules.


173 posted on 04/15/2009 4:17:08 AM PDT by Laverne
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To: Laverne

Check your FReepmail in a few minutes.


174 posted on 04/15/2009 5:16:17 AM PDT by ru4liberty
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