[reaganaut1]

Obama's renewable energy subsidies and energy taxes will multiply this waste a thousand-fold.

[Mister Muggles]

Don’t worry, King Ray-Ray and The rat Congress will think of a way to force Americans to buy the more expensive, less practical alternative.

[Maine Mariner]

“It seemed there would be no end of do-gooders willing to pay whatever it took to make their transportation fuel green.”

It seemed there would be no end of do-gooders willing for all the rest of us to pay whatever it took to make their transportation fuel green. There fixed it.
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[Hacklehead]

Nobody bothers to run the numbers before starting these sure loser projects. Due dilligence is important.

[bolobaby]

[GraceG]

If they can make any bio-fuel cheaper than regular fuel then good for them, if not I don’t want my tax money being wasted on it.

I may be able to compromise if a there is reasonable % limit on how much is subsidized.

Something like a set-in-stone limit of 10% subsidy. So the governement will only subsidise 10% over maket value per quarter based on previous quarter.

So if regular gas is $2.00 a gallon the government would only subsidize ethanol 20 cents per gallon and no more.

If regular gas went down to $1.50, then the government would only pay a 15 cent subsidy on the ethanol.

I would rather not have a subsidy int he first place, maybe the next step we need to take is to limit subsidies and then work to end them. Use incrementalism for our own darn goals for once.

[rednesss]

"Still, it's hard to get buyers to pay $3.50, or even $2.50, for something when the alternative is $1.50.

Where the heck can I buy $1.50 diesel??? Around here the cheapest diesel is still $2.39 a gallon. I'll take a 60% discount.

[03A3]

To make a gallon of biodiesel you start with a gallon of edible oil (palm, rapeseed or soybean) that costs, say, $2.70

Why does it have to be edible? Wouldnt it be cheaper to use something like cattails or sawgrass?

[papasmurf]

Let’s not even mention that it’s worse for the environment than diesel is. And, it can ruin a 30k diesel engine, unless additives are used, even more environmental damage.

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science/04/02/biofuel.debate/

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,313446,00.html

Now you want to talk about the effects of putting growing for food against growing for fuel? Puhleees. We would need to use 100 times more land mass, and deforest 500 times more to do it, to produce the ingredients needed to “grow” bio-fuels, and eat.

Snake oil.

Two words. Natural. Gas. Either compressed, or liquid.

It’s the perfect “bridge” fuel.

[Donald Rumsfeld Fan]

Two years ago Imperium Renewables feted U.S. senators and other bigwigs at the opening of a biodiesel plant at the port of Grays Harbor, Wash. The $88 million plant was heralded as a great green hope in the fight against global warming. At the event, Imperium chief executive Martin Tobias dipped his finger in a container of biodiesel and took a taste for the crowd.

[Fractal Trader]

WA ping

[jveritas]

Typcial left wing sicientific and business model i.e. bad science, bad business model, only feeling good about some emotional buzzwords such a renewable energy and saving the planet.

[steelyourfaith]

 

Beam me to Planet Gore !