Darwin’s Sad Legacy (evolution invented to give death and suffering a positive explanation?)

AiG ^ | April 14, 2009 | Dr. Tommy Mitchell

[GodGunsGuts]

DevNet, you never fail to (deliberately?) misinterpret just about everything. Did you read what I was responding to?

[DevNet]

You are using a poll / popular opinion to determine what is correct which isn’t a smart thing to do.

Or do you only support polls that support your preconceived notions?

[GodGunsGuts]

Like I said, DID YOU READ WHAT I RESPONDING TO? Or do you go out of your way to misinterpret things?

[valkyry1]

Or do you go out of your way to misinterpret things

Among other things, its how the evo operates. In their mind they are 'winning' the argument. 

[DevNet]

*Or do you go out of your way to misinterpret things*

How many of your patents of yours am I violating?

[GodGunsGuts]

At least this Evo. If memory serves, he goes out of his way to misinterpret something or other just about every time he pings me with a reply.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[Oztrich Boy]

“missed it by that much”

[Buck W.]

Are you serious? The ole earthers are the largest group, 50% in the most recent entry.

While I’m certain that your correct about the increased numbers among regular attendees of YEC churches (yes, I added YEC. The numbers would move the other way among Catholics, Episcopalians, and other thinking Christians of strong faith.), what do you suppose the numbers would look like among respondents who have ever taken a science class?

Surely Brian Thomas, MS* has some data on that...

[Buck W.]

Actually, we have won the argument—you’re not teaching science. This is just sport.

[valkyry1]

‘We’? For those that never analyzed or questioned what they were fed as settled knowledge, yes.

[Buck W.]

Do you understand what science is?

[Buck W.]

It’s late—sorry for the typos. That’s “old” in line 1 and “you’re” in line 2.

[gondramB]

>>I know some scientists who were/are a bit older than 13 years old who acknowledge the equivalence of the geokinetic and geocentric models.<<

Are you saying that you believe that the quotes you cited mean that Max born , George Ellis and Albert Einstein believed in a geocentric universe?

[gondramB]

>>what do you suppose the numbers would look like among respondents who have ever taken a science class?<<

We might need to clarify where they took that science course.

[gondramB]

>>The majority of people support pre-martial sex - does that mean we should say it is OK?

What about Obama? He won the election - does that mean we have to support him?<<

With respect, those are things are subject to democracy - evolution and geocentrism really aren’t - we have evidence and there is a clearly preponderance in that evidence that science types can understand even if the majority can’t or won’t.

[gondramB]

>>Actually, Filo is quite right. Only a small band of Christians hold to the YEC view of things, and that’s probably more for the purpose of retaining social status within their churches.<<

I don’t know there is pressure the other way too.

[gondramB]

>>Darwin’s ToE is a materialist fairytale, based on zero evidence that I can understand.

Fixed it for ya.

In reality the evidence supporting Evolution is overwhelming. <<

Pretty much everybody can understand that the oldest fossils are simple and that complexity and diversity increases as they get newer until you get the various modern species. And pretty much anyone looking at the grand canyon can see this didn’t happen in thousands of years.

Its takes either a lack of exposure to science or a dominating reason to deny the simple parts developmental science.

Since that over-riding reason is most often concern about an entire belief structure collapsing - which is a pretty reasonable concern, we are not gonna convince most creationists.

So the focus on really should just be on making sure we teach science in science class and decide science policy on science, not on religion. That’s the best we are gonna get.

[gondramB]

And frankly ,its all we are entitled to - we don’t to change people’s religious beliefs, we just get to have science determine science education and policy.

[gondramB]

Darwin’s motivation is about as important as Ben Franklin’s motivation for flying that kite - the important thing is whether what they discovered holds up and is useful.

From Darwin came much of modern biology and medicine and from Franklin can electrical unification. But there was a heck of a lot about their fields that each man didn’t know that the average 6th grader knows now.