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A 'Domestic Terrorist' and Proud of It Gun debate grows as NRA meeting nears
KTAR ^ | 16 April, 2009 | Bob McClay and Jim Cross

Posted on 04/17/2009 5:21:28 AM PDT by marktwain

PHOENIX -- Gun rights will be at the top of the agenda when the National Rifle Association holds its convention in Phoenix next month.

Valley gun rights' advocates say concerns are growing because of President Barack Obama's track record on gun control legislation.

Landis Aden, who heads the state Rifle and Pistol Association, said, "People are concerned about a variety of issues, not just firearms. That's just part of the equation. When the government comes out with taxation, inflation, all these factors, you can't isolate one from the other."

Aden said people just don't trust the president.

"There's concern about the way the administration's trying to take the country overall, not just one aspect of it."

State Sen. Kirsten Sinema, a Phoenix Democrat, doubts that there will be strict gun controls imposed under the Obama Administration.

"I think there's some interest in enforcing laws that are on the books, but not much interest in changing laws," Sinema said.

She added, "Our control has a strong belief in the Second Amendment."

As for the Obama Administration's stance on guns, Aden said, "A lot depends on Congress, of course. The last time they did that (passed the ban on assault weapons), the party in power became the party out of power the next election. I think they still remember that."

Aden said the NRA convention is the "Super Bowl" for gun owners. His group is involved in planning for this year's convention, which begins May 15 at the Phoenix Convention Center. About 40,000 people are expected to attend.

"As a state association, we're the hosts, so to speak," he said. "We're coordinating a lot of things with NRA staff. There's been meetings since last December."

The author of the "Arizona Gun Owners' Guide," Allen Korwin, agrees with Aden that there's concern about where Obama stands on gun control.

"His record on the subject is abysmal, and the people he's appointed to office have very, very bad records on gun rights," said Korwin.

"He voted for every anti-firearms rights law that came up while he was in office in Illinois," Korwin said. He said that continued when Barack was elected to the U.S. Senate.

Korwin said the anti-gun crowd is using the violence in Mexico among the drug cartels as an excuse to impose stricter gun controls.

He said people are stocking up on guns and ammunition in anticipation of attempts to pass new restrictions.

"This doesn't make sense because people like you and I who own firearms have nothing to do with Mexican drug cartels," Korwin said. "The drug cartels are getting their weapons largely from the military, from deserters from the Mexican Army."

"The run on ammunition and firearms is predictable because the threat against private ownership of firearms is very great," Korwin said. He said the American public will be up in arms if there are attempts at more gun control.

"We need to defend our civil rights and our human rights at every turn, because there's a natural tendency to come after them and try to diminish, relinquish or infringe upon them," he said. "We see it now and the country's running scared."

Sinema said there are more important things than gun control for people to be worried about.

"I would say they should probably be worried about their jobs and their homes. Those are two things that are disappearing right now in America. Guns aren't disappearing. I guess I wouild say, 'Worry about something real.'"

She said there is a problem with people working for cash and smuggling guns into Mexico, but she said that issue can be addressed without interfering with the rights of U.S. gun owners.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: arizona; banglist; donttreadonme; law; nra; rightwingextremism; shallnotbeinfringed
Alan Korwin is a great guy. I am glad to see that he has become a resource for KTAR. It looks as if Arizona Democrats are scared on this issue. That is a very good thing.
1 posted on 04/17/2009 5:21:29 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Vin Suprinowicz recently did a rehash of the frog and the scorpion with Democrats being the scorpion and those of us who believe in freedom being the frog. bottom line being Democrats (and as Vin puts it about half of the Republicans on any given day) just can’t help themselves it’s in their nature to destroy liberty.


2 posted on 04/17/2009 5:26:00 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: marktwain

Expect Napolitano to have issued a memo stating that all attendees are to be considered terrorists.


3 posted on 04/17/2009 5:27:51 AM PDT by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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To: marktwain

As tempting as it is to get in their face about this, accepting their language is very, very risky.

If you go spouting off that you are a domestic terrorist, they will isolate you and use that to enforce surveillance.

We have the language on our side.

We are patriotic Americans, who support our constitution (which the president takes an oath to defend) and the country as our Founding Fathers created it.

Patriotism means:
Small central government
Minimal taxes
Equal treatment under the law
Protecting our national sovereignty
Preserving state sovereignty
National defense
We ARE the government, THEY are neither our rulers nor providers
LIBERTY FOR ALL


4 posted on 04/17/2009 5:29:01 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (The most dangerous fascists are those with a warm smile and soothing voice.)
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To: Darksheare

She probably already got the word out. And they are to be dealt with accordingly.


5 posted on 04/17/2009 5:30:36 AM PDT by sport
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To: marktwain
"We see it now and the country's running scared."

I am not running anywhere, but am Mad as Hell! This instinct is not flight, but fight.

6 posted on 04/17/2009 5:34:04 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: marktwain

Read “One Second After” ...perfect reason to own several guns.


7 posted on 04/17/2009 5:37:49 AM PDT by Raster Man
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To: Darksheare

If they are, I am.


8 posted on 04/17/2009 5:43:08 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: from occupied ga; All
I made a mistake in the title. The correct title should be:

Gun debate grows as NRA meeting nears

I apologize for my error.

9 posted on 04/17/2009 6:00:34 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

There are two kinds of people in America today.

Those drinking the Obama Kool-aid, and those that arent.


10 posted on 04/17/2009 6:01:37 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: from occupied ga

There is a disturbingly large percentage of the people who are literally afraid of liberty.


11 posted on 04/17/2009 6:15:16 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Socialism is the belief that most people are better off if everyone was equally poor and miserable.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Fly them at your home now. The more they see, the better.

ALSO

or if you are NAVY


12 posted on 04/17/2009 6:16:33 AM PDT by bmwcyle (American voters can fix this world if they would just wake up.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks; sport

Just be careful.
With the memo she put out about the Tea Party protests and returning vets being considered possible terrorists, it’s obvious they have an agenda.
And no, before anyone asks, I don’t think she simply misstated.
I think she meant every word she said and said less than she wanted to in her memo.


13 posted on 04/17/2009 6:34:18 AM PDT by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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To: marktwain

Reviewing the document, I note there are literally 50 references to “rightwing [extremist|extremism|terrorist|militia]”. That’s astoundingly high in a document consisting of just nine sparse pages.


14 posted on 04/17/2009 8:47:56 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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To: Darksheare

Even if not malicious, it belies a world view which simply equates “rightwing” (and defining characteristics thereof) with “dangerous”. A tiny and hand-picked sampling of a half-dozen examples selected across 15 years does not make for good risk analysis. The author simply cannot differentiate between meaningful causality and vague correllation; seeing a couple bigotry-invoking labels attached to a few rare instances, she broadly condemns millions of citizens who share commonly-held persuasions yet are nowhere close to being a threat.

This is not a risk analysis. This is demonization of a subculture in preparation for a purge; history shows this pattern repeatedly. If anything, it is a self-fulfilling prophecy: marginalize and oppress a group sufficiently, and they will eventually push back.


15 posted on 04/17/2009 9:07:02 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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To: marktwain

bttt


16 posted on 04/17/2009 12:33:16 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

I disagree with “accepting their language is very, very risky.”

We are using their own language against them. We are all of those things that you list, but THEY are the ones labeling us as the extremists.

I stand next to Oliver North and all the other millions upon millions of RIGHT-WING EXTREMISTS in this greatest country on God’s green earth.


17 posted on 04/17/2009 1:14:22 PM PDT by adm5 (YOU CANNOT FIX CAPITALISM WITH SOCIALISM! -Glenn Beck)
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To: marktwain

We renewed our NRA membership last week.


18 posted on 04/17/2009 1:16:47 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: marktwain

Real simple to fix ....SECURE THE BORDER!!!!!

It is most likely illegals with fake ids doing the gun running (if that is how the drug cartels are getting them)


19 posted on 04/17/2009 7:31:59 PM PDT by Fred (Proud Member of the Obama Enemies List)
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