Posted on 04/20/2009 3:08:13 AM PDT by BykrBayb
Incidents like this in the public school system are why my husband and I have decided to home-school our daughter.
“”War On Drugs” = the loss of your freedom.”
Right. The problem isnt the drugs, its the laws. Crack, heroin, meth, no big deals. Brilliant.
The problem here is the lack of perspective shown by the school administration. They blew a fuse when someone allegedly violated one of their little edicts. A common household pain reliever that can be obtained in any drug store. I’m surprised they stopped at stripping the kid and didnt go all the way to a body cavity search. After all, the school has rules!
I don’t understand how effeminate this country has become. The fact that school officials believed that they could get away with this and then actually get away with it blows my mind. If this were my daughter I would honestly have let this go under the radar for a year or two and then in the wee hours of the night, this person would have met a fate most unwelcome. (And I am not joking even a little bit).
Yeah, they must be pedophiles. Otherwise this makes no sense. I mean Ibuprofen? I wouldn't be surprised if the principle had hidden cameras set up so he could watch. They should check his home computer for child porn.
The US is fast becoming a total police state.
Everyone needs to remove their children from public schools since everyone must protect their children from public school officials. I mean, if I had to tell my daughter to run away and call me and the police that someone was trying to sexually assault her if they tried to strip search her then it is time to abolish public schools. I would slaughter anyone who tried to strip my little girl.
“...but I am almost certain if it was a cop then some excuse would have been fronted by some.”
I don’t know what authority a cop has to do that on school property, but if taken into custody I think just about everyone gets strip-searched these days.
Well a cop apologist! Spetznaz hit that one on the head. No, most people don't get stripped searched these days when arrested. They certainly don't get arrested for having ibuprofen on their person, or suspicion of having it. Juveniles especially don't get stripped.
Do you recall the post with the video of the cops strip searching the good looking woman and the subsequent law suit that followed and is still on going? You can't be stripped searched except in extreme cases and then usually only after you have been convicted of a crime and sent to prison.
You are apologizing for cops when they were not even involved, in effect saying that it is ok to strip 13 yo girls if cops do it!
Never loose site of who is running our so called education system and that the true purpose of that system is control of the masses. Even our MSM says that someone must do the thinking for the masses.
“You are apologizing for cops when they were not even involved, in effect saying that it is ok to strip 13 yo girls if cops do it!”
I am not apologizing for anything, [DELETED], just pointing out what I believe are facts. I think this school district and the individuals involved should be sued into bankruptcy and charged with crimes against a minor.
Someone mentioned the police. I merely pointed out that one would probably get a very thorough going-over if taken into custody. It’s called a body-cavity search and they do it to make sure a prisoner doesn’t have a weapon or drugs they can use to harm themselves or others.
I DO NOT believe that any school employee, public or private has the authority to strip search any student, especially over something as silly as aspirin.
Wand them for weapons, yes. Lock them in a room until the police arrive, yes. Subdue them if they are violent and restrain them, probably.
Does that clear things up a bit?
I am not pro-drugs by any means, but I agree this crosses the line.
I started to say "It depends on who 'they' are, but then I realized it doesn't. At this point, he's given up his right to object to any kind of search from anyone.
This is where parents run the school system and they are largely unaffected by general educational trends. This is the context that we are looking at, not an urban or suburban educational complex. For a town that size, they have several world class charter schools. By world class I mean head on agaist any comparable school in the world. The public schools are very good to excellent. That is an amazing record considering that the population is nearly 50% minority. They just don't take diversity as an excuse. They demand that the Mexican kids perform and they do.
It is a very conservative community. Several years ago they had a sheriff who threw the feds out of the county. The State, too. His office was the supreme constitutionally authorized law enforcement body and he wasn't taking direction from anyone. The Feds still tread lightly there.
When you mix religion and government sometimes you get something you don't expect. It can go overboard in the sin department. Here are the rules and you don't break the rules. It is, and it seems to us, excessively authoritarian but I doubt that they gave it a second thought. I'm sure that they will next time. They just didn't realize anything was untoward.
Oh yeah, the "War On Drugs" is just working so well, isn't it?! What got this ball rolling was the "WOD", as governments always do, they over-reach into every facet of a citizens life while "enforcing" misguided laws, but in this case it isn't even a law, its a policy, because they were to chickenshit to get a Constitutional Amendment like they did for alcohol... Why? because it gives them more leeway in "Enforcement".
But keep up the 'ole "Drug War" I'm sure sooner or later it will work...Not! and everyone will continue to suffer the consequences... especially with Government paid idiots running the schools, that is why aspirin, midol and vitamins get kids bounced out of school every year.
End the so called "War on Drugs" and you will watch the crime rates plummet just as happened with prohibition, You will also save the BILLIONS spent every year propping up a completely failed policy, you will have many blatantly UNCONSTITUTIONAL Government/LEO forfeit practices fall by the wayside, and in the end have some of your freedoms restored.
See the monetary and human impact of the failed "War On Drugs"
I am talking about the Constitutionalists Freepers and Conservatives in general, who believe that our founders designed and implemented the blueprint for any successful society...
How can someone on one hand preach the founders intent on Individuality, Personal Responsibility and a restricted Government and on the other hand, arbitrarily strip a citizen of his rights, property and freedom for no other reason than the citizen likes to put a "drug" that someone else does not like, in THEIR OWN body.
If "enlightened" and "knowledgeable" Freepers can't get it, how can the average idiot?
...AOV goes back to reading Atlas Shrugged and prepares for his demise...
30 posts AGAINST this action only 1 FOR the right to search, and you’re complaining?
You need to explain yourself.
There are laws against drugs because they are addictive and destructive to the individual as well as society. Addicts commit crimes (often violent) to satisfy their dependency. Whats the alternative to drug laws, a country full of stoners and addicts? Real productive. Works great in Amsterdam.
Well not that I really "need" to explain myself, but...
I was not just talking about the strip search, but the "War on Drugs" policy as a whole.
People will see this story and say "oh that's bad" how could (Insert people or Institution to be blamed for incident) they do that! without noticing what is causing this type of stupidity... government intrusion.
You've read of the government tentacles that invade Everything.. well the "War On Drugs" tentacle is Popeye sized and has been growing and invading pretty much every facet of the American way of life for over 30 years with little to no impact.
The fact that we were in a very similar situation during prohibition, rampant crime... shootings, robbery, bootlegging which was caused by... wait for it... the government... a lot of the major crime (Including massive government corruption) was tied to prohibition, (hmmm, same as the War On Drugs).
When Prohibition was repealed did the nation as a whole turn into a bunch of drunks, just living for happy hour? you know the answer... no they didn't and it is a typical straw man argument.
Without undue intrusion on their lives, people will do what people have always done, work, pay taxes and have a drink or a smoke.
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