Posted on 04/21/2009 6:17:36 AM PDT by dangus
By no means have I written her off! I'm just wanting to hear her start picking up on conservative issues a little bit as she starts making moves for 2012. And if anyone has any information on such things as Bobby Jindal's stance on immigration, I'd love to hear it.
I hope it’s plain that I am not attacking fiscal conservatism, but those who treat “fiscal conservatism” as if it’s something opposed to conservatism in general, or specifically social conservatives. Such “fiscal conservatives,” like Christine Todd Whitman, Bob and Elizabeth Dole, Rudy Giuliani, Arnold Schwartzenegger, Arlen Specter, etc., all turn out to be fiscally liberal too.
Are you describing a fictional Sarah Palin? I have never heard her buy into the idea of man-made global warming, massive illegal immigration or heard her endorse the bail-out. In fact she spoke out against it. If she doesn’t pass your “real conservative” litmus test I don’t think many will.
We need a real multi-party system instead of what we have today which is one party, “The Big Government Party”, with two branches, Republicans and Democrats, quibbling with each other to see who gets their hands on the taxpayers money.
They may fight amongst themselves but join forces to fight any threat of real change against Big Government.
The only difference between the Republican and Democrat parties has been who they want to pander to, and even that line is disappearing as Republicans strive to out-pander Democrats.
We haven’t had a FisCon in office since Reagan. Most social issues can be addressed through economic means. Defund programs that are offensive to SoCons and everyone can be happy.
Fiscal conservatism combined with social liberalism is an oxymoron. You can't be socially irresponsible without becoming fiscally irresponsible...
It is the DNA of RINO and simply results in Democrat lite syndrome...
"Some would have you delay exploration and development in the federal offshore of Alaska over concerns related to global warming and its effects in the Arctic. First of all let me make it clear that the State of Alaska understands the effects of climate change in the cryosphere. We Alaskans are living with the changes that you are observing in Washington. The dramatic decreases in the extent of summer sea ice, increased coastal erosion, melting of permafrost, decrease in alpine glaciers and overall ecosystem changes are very real to us. Many believe that in order to mitigate these long term and systematic changes it will require a national and global effort to decrease the release of human produced greenhouse gases into the atmosphere. However, simply waiting for low carbon emitting renewable capacity to be large enough will mean that it will be too late to meet the mitigation goals for reducing CO2 that will be required under most credible climate change models, including the International Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) modeled scenarios."Notice she not only endorses man-made global warming now, she also endorses the outrageous exaggerations and falsifications of the IPCC.
Sarah Palin on immigration:
Univision: As governor, how do you deal with them? Do you think they all should be deported?Note that she justifies "a pathway to citizenship" (the language Bush, McCain and Kennedy use for their amnesty, since they hate that word) by citing the economic necessity of millions of illegal aliens. With 17 million unemployed Americans, we need illegal aliens to take all those jobs? Can we agree that she needs to be educated on such issues, and hope to press her to come around on this issue, instead of burying our heads in the sand because she is so likeable? Bush was very likeable in 2000, and also promised there would be no amnesty.Sarah Palin: There is no way that in the US we would roundup every illegal immigrant - there are about 12 million of the illegal immigrants - not only economically is that just an impossibility but that's not a humane way anyway to deal with the issue that we face with illegal immigration.
Univision: To clarify, so you support a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants?
Sarah Palin: I do.
Exactly, this whole fiscal conservative vs. social conservative is a false dichotomy invented by RINOs and liberaltarians (a neologism, not a misspelling) to confuse the issue with regards to their liberal voting records.
The Republicans participation in the fiscal disaster that confronts us is only a matter of degree when compared to the Democrats. This is why the Tea Parties attract people from all political persuasions. We desperately need a strong conservative third party that cannot be co-opted by the Rino’s and McCain moderates of the world. As long as conservatives are working through the Republican party we will be marginalized,dismissed and undermined!
It’s really starting to sound like we need the conservative military in charge
The military retains a form of conservatism because novel, bone-headed ideas get people killed. Put the military in an area where their own survival doesn’t depend on their correctness, and you’ll be amazed at how bone-headed the military can be. The military leadership isn’t exactly that big on letting people innovate to discover their own ways of doing things, either... which is great when you’re trying to avoid being killed, but not exactly conservative when applied to economic policies, small government, and subsidiarity in general.
There is a group within the Louisiana Republican Party strongly opposed to Jindal, who like GWB “reaches out” to Democrats in his state.
‘The conservative military in charge...’
Are you insane?
Go form your own party. Good luck!
No RINOS! No Liberal Lounge Lizard Republicans! No Moderates! No Sunshine Patriots, No Pinko Democrats! True Conservatives Only. We must clean out the House and Senate and the state houses too. Elect Citizen-Politicians who will not make a life time career out of the pork and corruption (Think Barney Franks). We need all true Americans to look beyond the bumper stickers and 30 second TV ads and look to what people believe. There is Hope.
1. Look at the following of plain speaking Ron Paul.
2. Look at the following of Glen Beck.
3. Look to the Tea Parties.
4. Look to the following of Sarah Palin.
5. Look to the disgust at the “bailouts”
6. Look at the awful treatment of GM.
7. Look to a new spirit in the land.
ON TO WASHINGTON!
>> Go form your own party. Good luck! <<
Wow. I write an article urging people to make sure they pick a true conservative for Republican nominees, and you tell me to form my own party? Are you that liberal, or that bone-headed? Do you want liberals running the conservative party? Or do you want the Republican party to splinter into factions?
>> There is a group within the Louisiana Republican Party strongly opposed to Jindal, <<
Mitt Romney and Mike Huckabee drones who will mindlessly attack anyone who might rival their candidate, or do they have real problems with Jindal? Seriously, I want to know whether Jindal has done anything that shows he favors liberal solutions over conservative ones. If he has, please tell me.
>> who like GWB “reaches out” to Democrats in his state. <<
Reagan reached out to Democrats. He did it by explaining conservative solutions to liberal problems and fears. Most people from Louisiana are Democrats or recently were Democrats. He has to reach out to them to win elections. Does he do so by championing conservative solutions to their legitimate concerns, or by letting every liberal in Louisiana screw his constituents up the ass?
>> 1. Look at the following of plain speaking Ron Paul. <<
I’m not a fan of Ron Paul, anymore. He seems to concoct libertarian reasons to vote against conservatives far too often. He’s voted for allowing monopoly cable companies to force their users to receive unscrambled porn, on the grounds he opposes monopolies. He’s for allowing people to transport other people’s kids across state lines to receive abortions. He sided with the Islamofascists in Iraq. And he opposes the border fence, the SAVE Act, the Real ID, and just about any other attempt to enforce our immigration laws. Whenever there’s one Republican voting with Bernie Sanders, Barney Frank and the raging leftists, I don’t even have to look at who it is.
Would I like a nation of 300-400 Ron Paul-like legislators? Yes. Would I like Ron Paul to represent the Republican fraction of those legislators?
I’m really afraid of what bizarre ideas he’d come up with when he had to push legislation through a Congress that includes a majority, or even a sizeable plurality of Democrats and RINOs.
But I’d vote for him over Juan McCain, Barry the Obamanation or Jorge Bush any day of the week. He was right about the banking bailout. I just hope it doesn’t come down to that.
>> But I’d vote for him over Juan McCain, Barry the Obamanation or Jorge Bush any day of the week. <<
I should even be clear about that. I’d vote for him as the Republican nominee, or as a candidate for the Republican nomination over Bush or McCain. I am very hesitant to ever vote for third parties, when one of the other two major candidates is vastly superior to the other (as anyone running against Obama is), the race between the major parties is at all tight, and that third party stands no chance of winning.
If I still lived in New York, I could find it much easier to vote third party. A vote for a third-party gains better ballot access; candidates can run on multiple lines, so it does well to strengthen third parties even if they don’t win outright*; and my vote for a Republican isn’t going to count anyway.
(* For instance, the Conservative Party endorses many, but not all, Republican candidates. Therefore, voting for the Conservative Party candidate helps force the Republican candidate to court conservative votes. I always used to vote for the Republican on the Conservative Party line.)
I usually hate vanities, but yours is well thought out and well written. Congrats !
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