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Banned Techniques Yielded ‘High Value Information,’ Memo Says (Full, unedited memo released)
NY Times ^ | 4/21/09 | Peter Baker

Posted on 04/21/2009 6:33:45 PM PDT by jimbo123

President Obama’s national intelligence director told colleagues in a private memo last week that the harsh interrogation techniques banned by the White House did produce significant information that helped the nation in its struggle with terrorists.

“High value information came from interrogations in which those methods were used and provided a deeper understanding of the al Qa’ida organization that was attacking this country,” Adm. Dennis C. Blair, the intelligence director, wrote in a memo to his staff last Thursday.

-snip-

Admiral Blair’s assessment that the interrogation methods did produce important information was deleted from a condensed version of his memo released to the media last Thursday. Also deleted was a line in which he empathized with his predecessors who originally approved some of the harsh tactics after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
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To: sport

“The only problem is the techniques are going to br used on and against us. By “us” I mean Prople who belive as I do, most of the people that are on this forum, legitament gun owners, Conservatives, Christians, Jews, former military, and people who believe that it is wrong to murder unborn and partially born babies.”


Exactly what I think will happen. And I am not just talking hyporbole.


81 posted on 04/22/2009 6:25:32 AM PDT by GreyMountainReagan (Liberals do not view the book 1984 as a warning but as a textbook.)
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To: AliVeritas

I bet there were ashtrays flying around the WH this morning or whenever this news broke.....


82 posted on 04/22/2009 6:30:24 AM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: TeleStraightShooter
Goebbels Gibbs

Every time I see Gibbs I'm reminded of Dean Wermer's admonition to Dorfman in "Animal House"

"Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son."

83 posted on 04/22/2009 6:58:51 AM PDT by Yankee
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To: manapua
Not on top now....but still there on the right side....

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MEMO: Harsh techniques brought good info...

'Deeper understanding of the al-Qaida network'...

84 posted on 04/22/2009 7:28:30 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: manapua
over the fact that KSM, the mastermind of the 9/11 attacks, was waterboarded 183 times?

Not to mention the fact that they are effectively pissing on the graves of the 3,00 Americans that died that day.

85 posted on 04/22/2009 7:46:09 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (I'd rather the world hate us then laugh at us)
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To: jimbo123

So ...

1. Prosecute the people who were responsible. make them look like they did something wrong protecting the country.
2. Make people who need to do the same thing to keep us safe afraid to do it so it won’t get done.
3. Change the policy so that it can not be done again.
4. Alert the enemy of what we were doing, which was not actually hurting them to begin with so they can defend against it.

Yep, all makes sense to me, if you want to support terrorism.


86 posted on 04/22/2009 8:07:57 AM PDT by Munz ("We're all here for you OK? It's a circle of love" Rham Emanuel)
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To: STARWISE

Obama Administration is full of censorship. They only want PRAVDA to report to the American people their point of view they have no time for critics, opposing points of view or dissent in fact they view it as dangerous...

Next will come the executive order that authorizes the internment of Conservative Americans. Obama Admin and Democrats have systematically been pushing this notion... and fear tactic on the American sheeple that blames Conservatives for all of our ills and asks people to be suspicious of Conservative type persons who may be capable of domestic terror activities.

So to sum it up the Obama Admin will treat our enemies with the greatest respect and will condemn and torture their own countrymen


87 posted on 04/22/2009 8:13:29 AM PDT by Typical_Whitey (Hey Obama, the world loved Bill Clinton too, but radical muslims still attacked us.)
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To: jimbo123
I just posted this:

Timing of Obama Release of Bush “Torture” Memos Now Clearer ( Pending prosecution....)

*******************************EXCERPT INTRO***************************

Timing of Obama Release of Bush “Torture” Memos Now Clearer as Investigation and Prosecution of Bush Officials Looms

Foolish Obama opens Pandora’s box!

Obama’s selective release of Bush Administration memos which demonstrated legal grounds for enhanced interrogation of a handful of Al Queda terrorists guilty of mass murder of American citizens raised eyebrows for the risk it posed by informing future terrorists of our interrogation methods.

But now, we learn that the timing of this release may have more to do with left wing partisan demands for Bush Administration officials to be prosecuted:

Senior Bush figures could be prosecuted for torture, says Obama
President says use of waterboarding showed US had ‘lost moral bearings’ as Dick Cheney says CIA memos showed torture delivered ‘good’ intelligence
By Ewan MacAskill and Robert Booth
guardian.co.uk,
Tuesday 21 April 2009

Senior members of the Bush administration who approved the use of waterboarding and other harsh interrogation measures could face prosecution, President Obama disclosed today .

He said the use of torture reflected America “losing our moral bearings”.


88 posted on 04/22/2009 8:19:14 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: jimbo123
Members of the Obama administration react to news of the Adm. Dennis C. Blair memo confirming that enhanced interrogation techniques actually work.

double-facepalm

89 posted on 04/22/2009 8:34:29 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan
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To: HelloooClareece

“Obama should know better than to mess with the CIA and the former administration. If anyone knows about his background it’s them.”

You know, I was just thinking, let him try to crap on them, then MAYBE they will come out swinging and the “eligibility” issue will pop up again...puuuuulllleeeeezzzzzee Lord, let it be.

Otherwise, they are all weenies.


90 posted on 04/22/2009 8:38:18 AM PDT by DrewsMum (www.williamsfortexas.com)
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To: jimbo123

The Kenyan Commie looks more angry, tired and flustered each day and it’s only been 90 days. How long before he goes nuts or cracks?


91 posted on 04/22/2009 12:43:28 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: odin2008

I said it many times,”obama will kill thousands of Americans”.
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you numbers are way too low. Ayers said 25 million but that was several years ago. Zer0 is probably aiming for 50 million. All from red states for sure.


92 posted on 04/22/2009 12:44:57 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: Travis McGee
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93 posted on 04/22/2009 12:49:10 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: jimbo123

0bama can either protect terrorists or America. He made his choice.


94 posted on 04/22/2009 4:09:32 PM PDT by counterpunch (0bama can either protect terrorists or America. He made his choice.)
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To: mojitojoe

Obama is just doing the bidding of his muslim masters. It’s all by design.


95 posted on 04/22/2009 4:41:19 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123
Also from the same memo...

The information gained from these techniques was valuable in some instances, but there is no way of knowing whether the same information could have been obtained through other means,” Admiral Blair said in a written statement issued last night. “The bottom line is these techniques have hurt our image around the world, the damage they have done to our interests far outweighed whatever benefit they gave us and they are not essential to our national security."

96 posted on 04/22/2009 4:54:56 PM PDT by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: rudypoot

Its series)))))))


97 posted on 04/22/2009 7:26:57 PM PDT by waterhill (An armed man has the means for independence.....)
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To: Michael Barnes

paskistan is where he went to visit while he was in college and didnt have an american passport.. (americns were banned from going there)


98 posted on 04/22/2009 8:27:00 PM PDT by M-cubed (Why is "Greshams Law" a law?)
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To: jimbo123

After a day or so of reflection,, This seems. to smell like The DOD has a better plan...... (pics if you will)....

I Would Rather Be Waterboarded than be Interviewed By Nancy Or Hillary......


99 posted on 04/23/2009 6:17:55 PM PDT by waterhill
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To: maica
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There is always that one guy.........

To be fair though, playing hard and for keeps is very different than being in enemy hands and pestered with waterboarding. But waterboarding is NOT pulling out fingernails, cutting of fingers and toes, etc. The Anti-American Democrats are weenies on top of being wusses. There, I vented again and feel much better.

100 posted on 04/25/2009 9:53:41 AM PDT by Chgogal (Don't look at me, Comrade. You elected him, our very own President Mugabe!)
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