Posted on 04/22/2009 9:28:26 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
Like a cougar is a missing link between house cats and tigers because after all their skulls are similar.
And please be more specific than your usual, “I just want him.”
Having followed these threads, I know that even if some creationists have made such an argument its not “typical”.
The only person who said anything about the Pope hating the Bible is YOU.
“So you agree with the premise that the Pope hates the Bible?
Or do you agree that it is a ridiculous strawman?”
You've no room to talk about a “strawman”!
You forget that Evolution grew to be the dominant theory on the evidence and argument, despite shouts of heresy against its proponents, despite criminal prosecution by the creationists.
On the contrary, ID is not being supressed, regardless of the lies in recent movies. ID is simply being appropriately dismissed as non-scientific. Creationism is also appropriately dismissed as being non-scientific. Creationism is religious by definition, and the originators of ID admit it is a religious movement with religious goals.
I agree you should be free to teach ID and creationism in public schools and universities, but in philosophy, sociology or religion class, not in science class.
Yawn.
You must have this movie mistaken for one that peddle’s Darwood’s fanciful creation myth.
I do believe you mean “peddles”, not “peddle’s”...and I have no idea who Darwood is.
Bye now!
Watch that door now!
:)
I admire your naivete, I really do.
..and I know several former Christians who became atheists and many who have just left the church because they where disillusioned by the kindergarten level antics and logic of those who insisted on pushing the young earth theories. Maybe young earth styled creationists are right, but if they are going to go after evolutionists, IDrs, or theistic evolutionists because of 'gaps' of knowledge, they probably should fill their own gaps first. Just like our knowledge of Newtonian Gravity theory has long since evolved past Newton's original theories and we still have major gaps in our knowledge, doesn't mean that gravity doesn't exist. Setting this war up is driving people away from the church, something I wouldn't be surprised is designed. I know I wouldn't send my kids to the religious private schools I attended when I walk in and see pictures of dinosaurs on the ark and such and consider Kent Hovind a real scientist(in high school classes).
“evolution-based complacency and hostility toward the God of the Bible.”
This is the standard Creationist canard. If one accepts the theory of evolution, then according to this logical construction, one must have hostility towards the God of the Bible.
Acceptance of evolution is directly equated with hostility towards God.
Thus a “reductio ad absurdum” argument would be that because the Pope accepts the theory of evolution the Pope has hostility towards the God of the Bible.
Obviously this is an idiotic and absurd premise, yet the logical reduction of this idiotic and absurd creationist axiom.
And this argument is typical creationist fare here on FR. They have little else to base their argument on.
The fact that you so vehemently and irrationally object to my well-founded conclusion, based upon a scientific, non-biological, examination of the evidence freely offered by stormer, himself, says more about you than it does about me.
I don’t believe you.
That’s fine, you are free to believe or not believe what you want.. your belief doesn’t effect the truth of the statement.
Your tricky Pope trap isn’t fooling anyone but it is making someone look like a fool.
It isn’t tricky and it isn’t a trap.
It is simply reducing to the absurd the typical Creationist canard that acceptance of the theory of evolution directly equates to hostility towards “the God of the Bible”.
The Pope accepts the theory of evolution, does it follow that the Pope has hostility towards “the God of the Bible”?
(BTW, I ABHORE that construction. God is the God of all Creation, not the “God of the Bible”. But as long as Creationists are intent on worshiping a book rather than God, I guess they may as well call it like they see it.)
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