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Obama’s EPA Declares CO2 a Poison
Pajamas Media ^ | April 22 | James Lewis

Posted on 04/22/2009 3:59:08 PM PDT by AJKauf

I am offended, just like an old-fashioned feminist. So, I’m sure, is Mother Gaia herself. Offended, because Obama’s Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has just officially declared carbon dioxide (CO2) to be a poison. (Sigh.)

You can’t even expel air anymore without ticking off our PC commissars.

Did you know you can die from drinking too much distilled water? Or from breathing too much pure oxygen? Oxidation products actually kill people — they cause a huge variety of fatal diseases. The only solution is to stop breathing.

All the molecules of life are also molecules of death. The old medicos used to say, “It’s the dose that makes the poison.” Perfectly safe substances can kill you if you take enough of them, or if you use the wrong channels to put them into your body. Inject fresh mountain air into your veins and you’re dead. You can choke on a nice big vitamin pill.

All substances are potential poisons, but if you’re Obama’s EPA you make it CO2. Wonder why?...

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1 posted on 04/22/2009 3:59:09 PM PDT by AJKauf
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To: AJKauf

No more breathing!


2 posted on 04/22/2009 4:01:03 PM PDT by Bushbacker1 (I'll miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012!)
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To: AJKauf

I wonder how plants have managed to live so long?


3 posted on 04/22/2009 4:01:18 PM PDT by lt.america (Looking for a bailout)
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To: Bushbacker1
No more breathing!

Without first obtaining the proper permits.

4 posted on 04/22/2009 4:02:36 PM PDT by Joiseydude (Kate Smith - God Bless America http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCavKL2zdjM GREAT visual interpretatio)
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To: AJKauf

You don’t have to have taken chemistry to know that CO2 is what we breathe out and plants breathe in. I wish the American people would laugh these clowns out of office.


5 posted on 04/22/2009 4:02:37 PM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: AJKauf

Must get rid of this dangerous stuff right now:

http://www.petitiononline.com/BanDHM/petition.html


6 posted on 04/22/2009 4:03:06 PM PDT by w1andsodidwe (Jimmy Carter(the Godfather of Terror) allowed radical Islam to get a foothold in Iran.)
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To: AJKauf

So the WH staff & Congress, along with news, will close up shop, stop talking and go back to their cages while we take to caves?


7 posted on 04/22/2009 4:03:20 PM PDT by combat_boots (God, guns and babies--Veterans, Constitution and legal immigration. The true Americans.)
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To: AJKauf

Earlier this week, I asked one of those AGW freaks a simple question — should we get rid of all the CO2 in the atmosphere? The answer was hilarious.


8 posted on 04/22/2009 4:03:30 PM PDT by Tarpon (You abolish your responsibilities, your surrender your rights.)
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To: AJKauf

Obama is unleashing so many assaults at the same time that no one has the finances or guts to fight it.


9 posted on 04/22/2009 4:06:19 PM PDT by ex91B10
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To: AJKauf
Trees depend on CO2 in order to live.

Why does Obama hate the trees, mommy?

10 posted on 04/22/2009 4:06:20 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.)
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To: AJKauf

That One’s Administration is demonstrating unmitigated stupidity!


11 posted on 04/22/2009 4:06:22 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: AJKauf

So is oxygen.


12 posted on 04/22/2009 4:07:37 PM PDT by Ben Mugged ("You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom".)
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To: AJKauf


13 posted on 04/22/2009 4:08:18 PM PDT by Viking2002 (Thomas Paine on one shoulder, and St. Anger on the other.)
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To: Viking2002

Next on the list will be DiHydrogen Oxide


14 posted on 04/22/2009 4:12:07 PM PDT by DaiHuy (')
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To: AJKauf

This is actually good. The more absurd their positions the deeper they can be buried.

Imagine in 2010 when children can sleep again knowing the earth is safe for humans.


15 posted on 04/22/2009 4:12:31 PM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: ex91B10

Obama is unleashing so many assaults at the same time that no one has the finances or guts to fight it.


Bingo!


16 posted on 04/22/2009 4:13:15 PM PDT by ElayneJ (q1`dsz)
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To: AJKauf

What is the ‘optimal’ level of CO2 in the atmosphere? (it is currently .03%)


17 posted on 04/22/2009 4:13:31 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th
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To: DaiHuy
Ah, yes, the old DHMO hoax.


18 posted on 04/22/2009 4:15:37 PM PDT by Viking2002 (Thomas Paine on one shoulder, and St. Anger on the other.)
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To: lt.america

lol - Exactly.


19 posted on 04/22/2009 4:16:01 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: AJKauf
"Obama's EPA" is no different from the EPA that's always been - it's just that now the real whackjobs have slithered out from under their rocks, and begun advancing their real agendas - the agendas which have never changed.

The EPA is headquartered in Ann Arbor, just to the west of Detroit, or just to the left of Detroit, both on the map and ideologically.
EPA employs the engineers and scientists who graduated at the bottom of their classes, the ones who couldn't get on with one of the Big Three, or who were fired from a job at the Big Three for being blithering incompetents.

So, surprise, surprise! They have a real grudge-on against our auto makers and anyone associated with them.

20 posted on 04/22/2009 4:16:56 PM PDT by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: Repeal The 17th

>What is the ‘optimal’ level of CO2 in the atmosphere? (it is currently .03%)

I wouldn’t be surprised if it turns out to be 5% or higher.


21 posted on 04/22/2009 4:19:37 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: AJKauf

OMIGOD!!!
That’s the stuff they put in soda!!!!!


22 posted on 04/22/2009 4:28:44 PM PDT by tsomer
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To: AJKauf

It is truly absurd, especially since the premise being used to ram this down our throats is wrong (global warming).

CO2 in the current cooling environment is good across the board, from whatever small warming effect to increased crop production.

Drill here, drill now! Nuclear ASAP! GOP 2010!


23 posted on 04/22/2009 4:29:00 PM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: AJKauf

As a public service, I call upon algore to do his part to help the environment by discontinuing his own CO2 emissions.


24 posted on 04/22/2009 4:33:46 PM PDT by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: AJKauf

ok....so everyone who is concerned about “climate change” stop breathing. any questions?


25 posted on 04/22/2009 4:34:07 PM PDT by XD45
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To: XD45

Can we strangle a few liberals first?


26 posted on 04/22/2009 4:36:58 PM PDT by Clock King
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To: Repeal The 17th
What is the ‘optimal’ level of CO2 in the atmosphere? (it is currently .03%)

Rather than using .03%, let's use part per million so I don't have to convert stuff.

Minimum CO2 needed in atmosphere is 200 ppm.
Less than that, and plant life starts dying off.

1000 ppm will kill mammals and probably birds, fish, reptiles, amphibians, etc.
Maybe insects would be OK.

750 ppm makes humans "light headed" and somewhat confused, so let's say a maximum "safe" range for humans is probably 700 ppm.

Present CO2 level is approx. 380 to 385 ppm.

My guess, "optimum" level for CO2 would probably be 450 to 500 ppm.
It would be good for agriculture, and still be well within the safe range for human life.

27 posted on 04/22/2009 4:41:40 PM PDT by Drammach (Freedom - It's not just a job, It's an Adventure)
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To: AJKauf
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This is a joke.

28 posted on 04/22/2009 4:44:09 PM PDT by andyandval
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To: AJKauf

Where in the Constitution does it set up provisions for the EPA?


29 posted on 04/22/2009 4:46:39 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (To stand up for Capitalism is to hope Teleprompter Boy fails.)
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To: andyandval

Re your post #28:......It’s hilarious!


30 posted on 04/22/2009 4:46:41 PM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: AJKauf

Another idiotic edict from the EPA maroons to ignore.


31 posted on 04/22/2009 4:47:39 PM PDT by afnamvet
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To: Drammach

That was a superb analysis.
For all of those who think that man has control of the planet,
I think we should double the current level of CO2 to reach ‘optimal’.


32 posted on 04/22/2009 4:49:50 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th
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To: andyandval

What in the unholy hell is that?


33 posted on 04/22/2009 4:50:32 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th
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To: AJKauf
All substances are potential poisons, but if you’re Obama’s EPA you make it CO2. Wonder why?...

'Cause his EPA is filled with Watermelons, just like him. Green on the outside, Red on the inside.

34 posted on 04/22/2009 4:52:04 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: AJKauf
so now I guess breathing in some one's face would be a criminal act.

Victim...Officer he was breathing in my direction.
Office: Shut up or I will have to arrest you for emitting CO2.
Victim: well them arrest your self your breathing on me..
Office: shoots victim...says...OK now more breathing in the name of the Olaw

35 posted on 04/22/2009 4:53:19 PM PDT by Gone_Postal ("Men who say it cannot be done, should not interupt those doing it.")
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To: BuffaloJack
Rachel Carson's "Silent Spring", Earth Day, Richard Nixon, Popular Opinion, all converged along with the "National Environmental Protection Act" introduced by congress.

Authorized powers of various agencies were consolidated into the EPA.
A history of the EPA is at the link below.

http://www.epa.gov/history/topics/epa/15c.htm

36 posted on 04/22/2009 4:55:17 PM PDT by Drammach (Freedom - It's not just a job, It's an Adventure)
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To: DaiHuy
Dihydrogen Monoxide.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi3erdgVVTw

37 posted on 04/22/2009 4:57:59 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: w1andsodidwe

“Must get rid of this dangerous stuff right now:”
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

It’s too late! The rivers, lakes, even the oceans are literally full of it now. We will have to live with it.


38 posted on 04/22/2009 5:02:15 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Change has come to America and all hope is gone.)
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To: Repeal The 17th
No one knows what Earth's optimal level of CO2 or temperature would be because we only live in a single frame of the longest movie ever made. We can not scientifically derive the optimum without being in a different time. We can say when CO2 becomes toxic and that is at 0.6% or 16 times what it is today the highest levels 14X what it is today and animals still did fine as far as we can tell.

Farmers use greenhouses to raise their CO2 for a more optimal level for plant growth. Many believe we are deficient on CO2, global alarmist don't agree.

we do know that man contributes about 3.4% of the total CO2. If we continued on our present course we can never get to a toxic.

As you can see in this chart I personally think we are deficient on CO2:

39 posted on 04/22/2009 5:06:14 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: Steve Van Doorn

So am I reading this right?
Does that graph show that CO2 concentrations have
been on the decline for the last 175 million years?
Is the blue line ‘temperature’?
(if yes, then what is(are) the ‘red’ line(s)?)


40 posted on 04/22/2009 5:14:14 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th
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To: BnBlFlag
Glad you liked it.

;)

41 posted on 04/22/2009 5:21:20 PM PDT by andyandval
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To: combat_boots
So the WH staff & Congress, along with news, will close up shop, stop talking and go back to their cages while we take to caves?

At least we have lots of nice caves hereabout. Damp, but not too cold or too hot. (98% humidty, 71 degrees or near that depending on the cave) Many virtually unexplored too. Quite likely many undiscovered as well, but a little work with a thumper truck would fix that.

42 posted on 04/22/2009 5:30:32 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: mad_as_he$$
Dihydrogen Monoxide.
No,No,No,No more Dihydrogen Monoxide, please. I'll tell you everything
CO2 TAX, THE NEW TEA TAX
43 posted on 04/22/2009 5:52:40 PM PDT by steveab (When was the last time someone tried to sell you a CO2 induced climate control system for your home?)
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To: AJKauf

Yeah, let’s get rid of CO2 so that the plants/trees will die. I mean, if it is poison we need to get rid of it. These people are idiots!


44 posted on 04/22/2009 6:09:45 PM PDT by ncpatriot
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To: AJKauf; enough_idiocy; Desdemona; rdl6989; Little Bill; IrishCatholic; Normandy; ...
EPA is filled with flunky bureaucrats.CO2 is a harmless gas necessary for the cycle of life, and there in lies a problem for ecotards.

 




Beam me to Planet Gore !

45 posted on 04/22/2009 6:38:26 PM PDT by steelyourfaith ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." -Lady Thatcher)
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To: brytlea
You don’t have to have taken chemistry to know that CO2 is what we breathe out and plants breathe in.

Plants respire in addition to photosynthesizing. Excessive plant growth in a pond can deplete the O2 supply dissolved in the water due to plant respiration, and cause a fish kill.

46 posted on 04/22/2009 8:03:18 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Repeal The 17th
The red line is the average temperature of the earth over millions of years. Believe it or not we are in an ice age, though we have been lucky for the last 10,000 years with a ‘brief’ warm period.

The average temperature today is around 15 deg C.

think about it for a second. ALL scientists will agree with this point that we are in a brief warm period during the middle of an ice age, it is just a matter of time when we plunge back into the cold period of the ice age that we are experiencing. It isn't a matter of 'if' it is a matter of when.

While we are screwing around with global warming the real threat is the coming ice age. It could be a thousand years off or it could be tomorrow we only know it usually happens suddenly. I would expect 2/3's of the population of the earth will die if not more.

47 posted on 04/22/2009 8:15:06 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: lt.america
Exactly. I remember charts, back in science class when I was a child, showing the oxygen/carbon dioxide cycle with plants and animals and how carbon dioxide is a necessary part of the ecosystem.

Now it's a poison?

God, is there anything to stop these inane, destructive freaks?

48 posted on 04/22/2009 8:25:22 PM PDT by Enoughofthissocialism
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To: AJKauf
Why? That's really simple. CO2 is something that we give off and is produced when creating energy. If we create it and then we demonize it then we can make the case that we need to reduce the amount we make. How do we reduce the amount that we produce. We TAX it. Now isn't that simple. Of course this is completely bogus.

Well who will we pay the estimated $3,700 a year extra we will be charged for producing CO2. The IMF (the International Monetary Fund) or other world organization. That helps fund the One World Government and the policing to make sure we are only producing our “fair share”. Of course this helps finance our own slavery.

If you buy into the fact that CO2 is a “bad gas” then you get taxes and then get World Government. This will further collapse the US Government. This of course is one of the goals of the New World Order. Wake up out there.

49 posted on 04/22/2009 8:25:23 PM PDT by Alex Kida
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To: AJKauf
All substances are potential poisons, but if you’re Obama’s EPA you make it CO2. Wonder why?...

These people cut their teeth on the radical 60's notion that our world was going to die because of man and overpopulation.
It is not surprising they want to place limits on CO2 emissions because they want to p;ace limits on mankind itself.
Today's environmental laws will become the basis for tomorrows population control. China's "one child" law is not very far from us.

50 posted on 04/22/2009 8:40:13 PM PDT by weston (As far as I'm concerned, it's Christ or nothing!)
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