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Pirate Bay lawyer demands retrial
Yahoo Finance ^ | 04/23/2009 | Malin Rising

Posted on 04/23/2009 3:30:51 PM PDT by iowamark

Pirate Bay lawyer demands retrial, saying judge was biased in file-sharing case

STOCKHOLM (AP) -- A defense lawyer in the Pirate Bay file-sharing case said Thursday he will demand a retrial after the judge admitted he was a member of copyright protection organizations.

A Stockholm court last week convicted four men behind the notorious Web site of helping others commit copyright violations and gave them one-year prison sentences.

They also were ordered to pay damages of 30 million kronor ($3.6 million) to entertainment companies, including Warner Bros., Sony Music Entertainment, EMI and Columbia Pictures.

Peter Althin, who represented Pirate Bay spokesman Peter Sunde in the case, said he would request a retrial after Judge Tomas Norstrom confirmed Swedish Radio reports that he was a member of two Swedish copyright groups....

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: p2p; piratebay; riaa
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To: iowamark; DevNet

I have never used TPB either but how do you explain people “stealing’ the latest episode of South Park when it’s shown on South Park.com and other sites such as Hulu? I just downloaded it. Trey Parker and Stone stated they don’t “give a rat’s ass” if they DL it or not.

It’s going to be interesting how Devnet interprets “fair use’.


21 posted on 04/23/2009 4:10:52 PM PDT by max americana
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To: max americana

Yes - and those who own the property I am watching have consented to allow it to be shown.

Being that they own it and I support property rights I rather think this is a good setup.


22 posted on 04/23/2009 4:15:21 PM PDT by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: Paladin2

You are taking what isn’t yours against the express wishes of the property owner are you not?


23 posted on 04/23/2009 4:16:27 PM PDT by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: max americana

An example of valid fair use is this site.

TPB and related sites aren’t about fair use - they are about getting things for free. If those who produce what you are taking aren’t paid for their work do you think they will keep making it?


24 posted on 04/23/2009 4:17:56 PM PDT by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: Paladin2

Do you have the legal right to use the property you are acquiring?


25 posted on 04/23/2009 4:18:43 PM PDT by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: DevNet
Who says I'm acquiring property?

Besides, Audio files have special properties of use that lend themselves to (near) simultaneous use of a single copy. It's not the same as using a car, for instance.

26 posted on 04/23/2009 4:51:42 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: DevNet

Who said I’m taking anything?


27 posted on 04/23/2009 4:52:53 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: Paladin2

Do you own the files in question? Yes or No?


28 posted on 04/23/2009 5:00:37 PM PDT by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: DevNet
What files are you talking about?

When it comes to audio files of a performance subject to copyright, one doesn't "own" them, one has a license for a copy typically.

29 posted on 04/23/2009 5:11:04 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: Paladin2

Someone owns them. If you distribute copies that the owner(s) didn’t authorize then you are breaking the law.


30 posted on 04/23/2009 5:19:42 PM PDT by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: DevNet

Dude, you are assuming all sorts of things not in evidence. I’d suggest that you tend to your knitting wrt me and actually investigate the nuances of the various forms of so-called IP and be able to distinguish same, in detail, from real property.


31 posted on 04/23/2009 5:24:15 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: Paladin2

Do you download copyrighted materials from torrent sites against the wishes of those that created it?

Are you one of those people who think that IP should be free for anyone to use - no matter what it cost to make?


32 posted on 04/23/2009 5:27:18 PM PDT by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: DevNet

Do you actually know anything about copyright law?


33 posted on 04/23/2009 5:29:48 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: Paladin2

Yes.


34 posted on 04/23/2009 5:33:20 PM PDT by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: DevNet

It’s not obvious.


35 posted on 04/23/2009 5:36:46 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: Paladin2

I am not the one who is anti-property rights.


36 posted on 04/23/2009 5:47:41 PM PDT by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: DevNet
How do you know I'm anti-property rights?

Are you again confusing copyright law with real property law?

37 posted on 04/23/2009 5:50:43 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: Paladin2

Do you feel that it is acceptable for you to use and distribute copyrighted materials without the authors permission?

It really is a simple question - a simple yes or no will suffice.


38 posted on 04/23/2009 6:03:24 PM PDT by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: DevNet

What country are they copyrighted in? Is the copyright timed out? It’s never simple.


39 posted on 04/23/2009 6:07:35 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: Paladin2

Current works - you know the ones that 98% of the visitors to TPB are downloading.


40 posted on 04/23/2009 6:12:36 PM PDT by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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