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Contradictions point towards a crunch [Pakistan]
Dawn ^ | Wednesday, 22 Apr, 2009 | Mahir Ali

Posted on 04/24/2009 12:13:58 PM PDT by happygrl

LAST week began with President Asif Zardari signing a bill that effectively legalises the hand-over of a portion of Pakistan to a branch of the Taliban...

The very same day, Maulana Abdul Aziz returned in triumph to his favourite haunt, Islamabad’s Lal Masjid, where he appeared to claim at least some of the credit for the outcome in Swat and promised that a similar fate lay in store for the country as a whole and for the rest of the world...

There appears to be a relatively simple explanation for the ANP’s nervousness: it is very, very scared of the Taliban and their allies. Which says a lot about the state of affairs in the NWFP. If the once progressive party’s leading role in negotiating a highly reactionary deal in Swat is based on the assumption that a concession in Swat will allow the provincial government more breathing space elsewhere, then it clearly does not understand the Islamist mentality...

‘The government,’ according to a report in The Guardian at the weekend, ‘is urging foreign embassies to move into a diplomatic enclave that may soon resemble Baghdad’s green zone.’ Almost everyone acknowledges, however, that adequate precautions against suicide bombers are hardly feasible. The vulnerabilities of Lahore and Karachi — to say nothing of Quetta and Peshawar — have already been demonstrated, while the likes of Baitullah Mehsud are free to hold press conferences, evidently with little fear of interception...

If the centre cannot hold, things will inevitably fall apart. Every now and then the odd flicker of hope can be glimpsed, but chances of redemption are fading fast. Once India concludes its drawn-out electoral process, it might be well-advised to make contingency arrangements for a wave of refugees driven by Islamist anarchy.

(Excerpt) Read more at dawn.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; imrankhan; jihad; pakistan; taliban
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Pakistan is falling apart: Embassies are urged to consolidate within a defensible zone.
1 posted on 04/24/2009 12:13:58 PM PDT by happygrl
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To: happygrl

Lovely. And we have the Coward-Appeaser-in-Chief in the White House.


2 posted on 04/24/2009 12:16:22 PM PDT by farlander (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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Pakistan is falling apart: Embassies are urged to consolidate within a defensible zone.

They should be evacuating women, children and non-vital personnel. This baby's gonna blow.
3 posted on 04/24/2009 12:18:06 PM PDT by Cheburashka (Lesson #1 from Battlestar Galactica: Never turn your back on your toaster.)
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To: Cheburashka
Well it's Friday.

What do you bet that 0bama is busy making weekend plans (that involve AF One) with Michelle ?

4 posted on 04/24/2009 12:22:28 PM PDT by happygrl (Hope and Change or Rope and Chains?)
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To: happygrl
Well it's Friday.

What do you bet that 0bama is busy making weekend plans (that involve AF One) with Michelle ?


Sucker bet if I ever heard of one.
5 posted on 04/24/2009 12:26:14 PM PDT by Cheburashka (Lesson #1 from Battlestar Galactica: Never turn your back on your toaster.)
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To: Cheburashka
They should be evacuating women, children and non-vital personnel. This baby's gonna blow.

They should get everybody out now, because the end-game will play out very quickly.

There will be no "defensible zone" if the Taliban get to the capital. They will launch mortar and rocket attacks on any such "zone". And anybody who waits until the last minute will experience a scene like the fall of Saigon.

6 posted on 04/24/2009 12:42:51 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money -- Thatcher)
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To: PapaBear3625
IF Pakistan falls to the Taliban (assuming there will not be a pro-Western coup), then civilization has no choice but a preemptive nuclear strike and invasion.

Anything less will ensure the destruction of the West and the assimilation of all of Western Asia under Al Queda/Taliban.

It's an existential threat to at least 30 countries near-term, and the rest of civilization in the long-term.

7 posted on 04/24/2009 12:54:23 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: Mariner
Things could move very quickly, as you've stated.

I wonder how Nukes under Taliban control would factor into Israeli plans for Iran ?

8 posted on 04/24/2009 1:03:28 PM PDT by happygrl (Hope and Change or Rope and Chains?)
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To: happygrl

A joint IsraeliIranianIndoUS campaign against Pakistan?

After all the Iranians hate the Talibs who slaughtered dozens of their diplomats and dignitiaries back when.....


9 posted on 04/24/2009 1:38:30 PM PDT by swarthyguy ("We may be crazy in Pakistan, but not completely out of our minds," ISI Gen. Ahmed Shujaa Pasha)
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A joint IsraeliIranianIndoUS campaign against Pakistan?

My head is exploding!

Talk about thinking outside the box!

Strikes me as similar to our strategy during WWII, and pays repect to the Middle Eastern adage: the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

10 posted on 04/24/2009 1:44:23 PM PDT by happygrl (Hope and Change or Rope and Chains?)
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To: happygrl

Well, and perhaps the Chinese can help in stopgapping the Karokaram highway to ensure no jihadis escape into Xinjiang....


11 posted on 04/24/2009 1:47:54 PM PDT by swarthyguy ("We may be crazy in Pakistan, but not completely out of our minds," ISI Gen. Ahmed Shujaa Pasha)
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To: happygrl

>>My head is exploding!

Save that for the jihadis, I know you haven’t turned into bomb and burka wearing babe....


12 posted on 04/24/2009 1:49:43 PM PDT by swarthyguy ("We may be crazy in Pakistan, but not completely out of our minds," ISI Gen. Ahmed Shujaa Pasha)
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To: happygrl
Sir Neville Henderson, the British Ambassador to Germany, flew from London to Berlin this afternoon with Britain's reply to Hitler's message of 25 August.
In this Hitler had outlined his demands for an immediate settlement to the question of the Free City of Danzig and the Polish corridor, and his horror at the thought of a war between Germany and Britain. (28 AUGEST, 1939)

Three days before Case White, the invasion of Poland... And our Dear Leader is out of town for the weekend...

13 posted on 04/24/2009 1:51:01 PM PDT by jonascord (Hey, we have the Constitution. What's to worry about?)
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To: swarthyguy
Well, and perhaps the Chinese can help in stopgapping the Karokaram highway to ensure no jihadis escape into Xinjiang....

Any other wannabe world power that you think should get involved ?

This would be an opportunity to try out all their "toys."

14 posted on 04/24/2009 2:01:15 PM PDT by happygrl (Hope and Change or Rope and Chains?)
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To: swarthyguy
Save that for the jihadis, I know you haven’t turned into bomb and burka wearing babe....

No, but I might consider wearing one and carrying a shiv...

15 posted on 04/24/2009 2:02:47 PM PDT by happygrl (Hope and Change or Rope and Chains?)
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To: jonascord

“Three days before Case White, the invasion of Poland... And our Dear Leader is out of town for the weekend...”

So you think Pakistan is doing a head fake ?

Oh, I agree, our enemies are watching 0bama closely and know his predeliction for parties on Wednesday night and out-of-town weekend dates.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_Wei%C3%9F_(1939)


16 posted on 04/24/2009 2:11:09 PM PDT by happygrl (Hope and Change or Rope and Chains?)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...

Analysis: Pakistan Flaw Threatens US Afghan Plan [0’s War Plans Crumble]
NYTimes | April 24, 2009
Posted on 04/24/2009 1:04:32 PM PDT by Steelfish
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2237145/posts

Pakistani Taliban confound Obama, Clinton
UPI | 4/24/09 | Marty Seff
Posted on 04/24/2009 3:50:23 PM PDT by pissant
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2237259/posts

Nuclear fears prompt Pakistan to prepare attack on Taleban
Times Online | April 25, 2009 | Zahid Hussain
Posted on 04/24/2009 4:35:43 PM PDT by AngieGal
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2237302/posts

Experts Predict Pakistan’s Collapse
McClatchy Newspapers | week of April 23, 2009 | JONATHAN S. LANDAY
Posted on 04/24/2009 4:40:48 PM PDT by lewisglad
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2237305/posts


17 posted on 04/24/2009 5:54:44 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: happygrl
I think our resident commie is taking Air Force 1 to somewhere else, just because he won, and will be totally bemused that the Taliban will have become a nuclear power.

What's worse, I don't think he cares.

18 posted on 04/24/2009 6:48:50 PM PDT by jonascord (Hey, we have the Constitution. What's to worry about?)
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To: jonascord
What's worse, I don't think he cares.

His name is Hussein;-)

19 posted on 04/24/2009 7:17:45 PM PDT by happygrl (Hope and Change or Rope and Chains?)
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To: swarthyguy; Saberwielder
The probability of that is small, but not zero. The result could be a divided Pakistan along ethnic lines.


20 posted on 04/25/2009 5:16:36 AM PDT by AdmSmith
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