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1 posted on 04/25/2009 8:25:03 AM PDT by airedale
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To: airedale

The Geneva conventions outline what are valid military targets. Not how to treat POWs, banning weaponry, or anything like that.


2 posted on 04/25/2009 8:27:52 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: airedale

I’ve asked the same question. No one seems to know.


3 posted on 04/25/2009 8:33:58 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: airedale
Type Geneva Conventions into your browser, you will get several hits.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_Conventions

http://www.genevaconventions.org/

A very large portion of these documents deals with who IS and who IS NOT covered by the Conventions.

Why?

If everyone is covered, why doesn't this treaty simply say, “every living human being on the face of this Earth is covered?”

The truth is, when you argue with an informed liberal, for any length of time, they end up saying something like, “Cheney and the neo-cons carved out exceptions—” Blah Blah Blay -—

They KNOW they do not have the law behind them, at least not yet.

They count on an activist judge or some international Court, even though their case, that their was any “crime” is very weak.

4 posted on 04/25/2009 8:36:11 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: airedale

In September 2006, Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., authored the amendment to the military tribunals bill that would have effectively defined waterboarding as torture and made it subject to Common Article 3 under the Geneva Conventions.

The amendment itself focused on conduct of other countries, but said: “should any United States person to whom the Geneva Conventions apply be subjected to any of the following acts, the United States would consider such act to constitute a punishable offense under common Article 3 ... .”

The amendment listed “forcing the person to be naked, perform sexual acts, or pose in a sexual manner; applying beatings, electric shocks, burns, or other forms of physical pain to the person; waterboarding the person; using dogs on the person; inducing hypothermia or heat injury in the person; conducting a mock execution of the person; and depriving the person of necessary food, water, or medical care.”

The amendment failed to gain the needed 50 votes, failing 46-53. Specter and then-Sen. Lincoln Chafee of Rhode Island were the only Republicans to vote in favor. Sen. Ben Nelson, D-Neb., was the lone Democrat to oppose the measure.


5 posted on 04/25/2009 8:37:01 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: airedale

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=2&vote=00258


6 posted on 04/25/2009 8:38:28 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: airedale

Can you locate any of this in The US Constitution or The Federalist Papers?

Oh, you haven’t READ The US Constitution, Congressperson??? And Why The H3ll NOT?


7 posted on 04/25/2009 8:42:49 AM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (The Constitution & Bill of Rights stand as a whole. Remove any part & nullify the whole.)
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To: airedale
So according to the Congress and Senate there is no law that says the terrorist should be punished for cutting off heads or other body parts of the people they capture..We should all sue these morons and make them go after the real criminals..
9 posted on 04/25/2009 8:47:32 AM PDT by PLD
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To: airedale

Both houses of congress passed a torture bill but it wasn’t enough to beat Bush’s veto.


10 posted on 04/25/2009 8:48:16 AM PDT by sazerac
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To: airedale

If there is no law, there is no problem and no reason to keep anything secret.


13 posted on 04/25/2009 8:58:18 AM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: airedale

Big News! The Terrorists are not signatories to the “Geneva Convention”.


16 posted on 04/25/2009 9:05:18 AM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli now reads "Oil the gun..eat the cannolis.")
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To: airedale
18 USC CHAPTER 113C - TORTURE 01/03/2007
29 posted on 04/25/2009 9:19:52 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: airedale
H.R.2863

TITLE X--MATTERS RELATING TO DETAINEES

12/30/2005: Became Public Law No: 109-148.

109th Congress

35 posted on 04/25/2009 9:49:02 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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