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1 posted on 04/25/2009 6:30:14 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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Swine flu worse in Mexico than US, but why?

No U.S. Emergency Rooms to parasitize.

2 posted on 04/25/2009 6:33:25 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Chains you can believe in.)
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Could be an ironic situation that the Mexicans are acclimated to more bugs e.g. their immunity to Montezuma’s Revenge. Some viruses will provoke cytokine storms in particularly robust immune systems.


3 posted on 04/25/2009 6:33:35 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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Gee, maybe we have first-world health care, and they have third-world health care?

Nah, too obvious...

4 posted on 04/25/2009 6:33:37 PM PDT by dirtboy
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ccess to medical care has been an issue in Asia, where a rare bird flu - which does not spread easily from person-to-person - has killed more than 200 over the last several years. Maybe Mexican patients have also had trouble getting medical care or antiviral drugs, some have speculated - even though the government provides health care.

Well that is shocking.

6 posted on 04/25/2009 6:34:53 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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We’ve had seven confirmed cases in US and supposedly a 7% mortality rate in Mexico.

Statistically, you’d need 14 cases here before you’d expect a death.

That’s not exactly how the math works, but the point is we still have too small a sample to decide the US version is less lethal.


7 posted on 04/25/2009 6:35:58 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Everyone has a right to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.)
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Why would anyone ask such an incredibly stupid question? Only if the reverse were true would it be a question worth pondering.


8 posted on 04/25/2009 6:36:05 PM PDT by eclecticEel ("Envy is always referred to by its political alias, 'social justice.' " - T. Sowell)
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http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2008611978_mexicotape10.html


11 posted on 04/25/2009 6:38:05 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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Just guessing here but if they died of severe pneumonia, isn’t that a reflection of the sanitary conditions inside hospitals? I once read that pneumonia is the biggest killer in hospitals where the infection that killed patients wasn’t from the original diagnosis and the reason was lack of proper sanitation.

Warning: I’m not a doctor or even associated with medicine in any way but I did stay at a HIE last night.


12 posted on 04/25/2009 6:38:52 PM PDT by saganite (What would Sully do?)
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Be coz we’re gooder!


13 posted on 04/25/2009 6:39:19 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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Mexico has socialized medicine?


15 posted on 04/25/2009 6:40:29 PM PDT by NavVet ( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)
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Because the medical system in Mexico, well.... sucks.


19 posted on 04/25/2009 6:47:02 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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Obviously the flu is made more severe by rolling r’s ...


22 posted on 04/25/2009 6:49:51 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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no vaccines of any kind


23 posted on 04/25/2009 6:50:09 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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seal the southern borders and deport illegal aliens:

reduce swine flu threat
reduce unemployment
reduce health costs
reduce education expenses
reduce government services
reduce crime

so, why not???


24 posted on 04/25/2009 6:52:27 PM PDT by elpadre (Afganista)
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Based on what I know of the 1918 pandemic, I can think of several reasons:

1. Mexico City is much more crowded that US cities — even cities like New York City. More people closer together equals greater numbers exposed.

2. Personal distance in the US is wider than in Mexico (or virtually anywhere else in the world). The closer you are to someone, the greater the chances to get exposed.

3. I would bet that more Mexicans (even in Mexico City) live in closer proximity to more animals than in the US. Flu gets really deadly if it moves from one species to another. (This is one reason why so many influenzas come out of China — people living very close to poultry.

4. Influenza viruses love to swap. When two different strains meet in one body they trade bits of RNA. This creates a new type of influenza, which immune systems may not recognize. The result is deadly. (Note that 1, 2, and 3 give greater opportunities for this to occur.)

5. The average age in Mexico is lower than in the US. One of the reasons that influenzas get really deadly is when they trigger an overreaction by the immune system. Call it the “burn down the village to save it” syndrome. People literally drown in the products of their immune system going crazy. This overreaction typically happens in the healthiest people — young, healthy adults ages 20-45.

Note that this is not really a matter of health-care system, because for the most part, influenza is a battle between your immune system and the virus. There is no real cure, and most medicine (except for tammiflu) are ineffective against influenza viruses. Yeah, major hospitals help, but in an epidemic, you don’t have enough beds to provide really dramatic intervention in most of the cases. Being well-nourished helps, but only if you do not get some influenza that triggers an overreaction.

Stock up on bottled water, get tammiflu at the first sign of the flu, and hope you get lucky enough to be relatively immune or miss it completely.


25 posted on 04/25/2009 6:53:17 PM PDT by No Truce With Kings (The opinions expressed are mine! Mine! MINE! All Mine!)
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Why?

Socialized medicine and fecal matter in the air.

Let’s pray that Americans are paying attention....(before Obama and the democrats nationalize our health care in America)!


29 posted on 04/25/2009 6:57:37 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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We do not have a big enough sample of flu victims here to know the death rate. For a death rate of 5 percent you would have to have 20 victims for one death..we have fewer.


31 posted on 04/25/2009 7:00:47 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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I say baloney.

This is about government “bailout” dollars.

Nothing more.


33 posted on 04/25/2009 7:12:14 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Got Tea?)
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Maybe, 30 years ago many Americans got a swine flu vaccine that has made antibodies that are better able to attack the new variant.


36 posted on 04/25/2009 7:28:48 PM PDT by depressed in 06 (The next Constitution is going to have to restrict the vote to those who actually pay taxes.)
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Obviously the virus is a vicious racist. Send Rev. Sharpton and his loudspeaker at once!
37 posted on 04/25/2009 7:30:37 PM PDT by In veno, veritas (Please identify my Ad Hominem attacks. I should be debating ideas.)
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