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Israeli guards stave off Somali pirates
The Jerusalem Post ^ | April 26, 2009

Posted on 04/26/2009 10:42:16 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

Israeli private security guards exchanged fire with pirates who attacked an Italian cruise ship with 1,500 people on board far off the coast of Somalia, and drove them away, the ship's commander said Sunday.

Cmdr. Ciro Pinto told Italian state radio that six men in a small white boat approached the Msc Melody and opened fire Saturday night, but retreated after the Israeli security officers aboard the cruise ship returned fire.

"It felt like we were in war," Pinto said.

None of the roughly 1,000 passengers and 500 crew members were hurt, Melody owner Msc Cruises said in a statement issued by its German branch.

Domenico Pellegrino, head of the Italian cruise line, said Msc hired the Israelis because they were the best trained security agents, the ANSA news agency reported.

Civilian shipping and passenger ships have generally avoided arming crewmen or hiring armed security for reasons of safety, liability and compliance with the rules of the different countries where they dock.

Saturday's exchange of fire was one of the first reported between pirates and a nonmilitary ship. International military forces have battled pirates, with US Navy snipers killing three holding an American captain hostage in one of the highest-profile incidents.

Saturday's attack occurred about 325 kilometers north of the Seychelles, and about 800 kilometers east of Somalia, according to the anti-piracy flotilla headquarters of the Maritime Security Center Horn of Africa.

Pinto said the pirates fired with automatic weapons, slightly damaging the liner, and tried to put a ladder on board. But he said they were unable to climb aboard.

The commander said his security forces opened fire with pistols. The ANSA news agency said the pistols had been kept in a safe under the joint control of the commander and security chief.

(Excerpt) Read more at jpost.com ...


TOPICS: Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: italy; maritime; mscmelody; somalipirates

1 posted on 04/26/2009 10:42:16 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY
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2 posted on 04/26/2009 10:45:38 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Proud charter member of Napolitano's rightwing, nutcase American, watch list.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Civilian shipping and passenger ships have generally avoided arming crewmen or hiring armed security for reasons of safety, liability and compliance with the rules of the different countries where they dock.

A possible way around this is for your security crew itself to "attack" the ship soon after it leaves port, board it, "force" the ship to feed them and give them a place to sleep, and when the pirates attack, the security crew just happens to be armed and manning strategic positions on the ship. Then they swiss-cheese a couple of pirates, "demand ransom" themselves, and leave when the ship reaches its destination.

3 posted on 04/26/2009 10:49:23 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Good for the Italians.

Too bad the security guys were forced to return fire with pistols only.

IMHO, a mounted 50 caliber MG would be a lot more efficient.


4 posted on 04/26/2009 10:54:39 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Everyone has a right to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.)
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To: Sherman Logan

Start sinking pirate boats. That would deter them.


5 posted on 04/26/2009 11:05:20 AM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Msc hired the Israelis because they were the best trained security agents
I'm sure there are Americans just as good. But Americans aren't beyond the reach of Obummer and Pelosi Truther Squads. The Israelis, thankfully, are.
6 posted on 04/26/2009 11:07:01 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Sherman Logan

—it says a lot for Israeli firearms training that pistols could drive off “pirates” presumably armed with AK’s-—


7 posted on 04/26/2009 11:10:36 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: ViLaLuz

Any boat opening fire on another should be treated as a pirate vessel subject to immediate sinking, with no pickup of any survivors.


8 posted on 04/26/2009 11:11:48 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Everyone has a right to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Pistols ????????? why not racks and slingshots? The Jews make some real fine firearms,The next time let them bring along something from home.
9 posted on 04/26/2009 11:12:07 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Osamabama Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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Rocks in place of Racks


10 posted on 04/26/2009 11:12:50 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Osamabama Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
.454 Casull or Desert Eagle pistols in .50 could speak with authority.

.357 from 6" barrels are pretty effective at gunfight range.

11 posted on 04/26/2009 11:20:45 AM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: rellimpank

Also the “platforms” for the two sides. I’ll take a nice pistol on a relatively stable cruise ship any day over an AK on a small, bobbing fishing boat!


12 posted on 04/26/2009 11:24:41 AM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: Sherman Logan

I have an evil dream: I hit the lottery, and invest in a beat-up old container freighter. Then I buy a stack of used CONEX containers, and place them onboard. SEVERAL of the CONEX containers have been modified with a pop-out armored M-60 mount and several armored sniper positions. Arm-up with some -60s and Barretts or PSKs, and go on a Somali Pirate Safari. And we go a-hunting on the wild Somali Seas. . . in my very own Q-ship.

And the best part is the name of the vessel: the M.V. Recumbent Mallard. . . .


13 posted on 04/26/2009 11:43:35 AM PDT by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border: I dare you to try and cross it. . .)
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Pirates have attacked more than 100 ships off the Somali coast over the last year, reaping an estimated $1 million in ransom for each successful hijacking, according to analysts and country experts.

Here you see the economics of the situation. Each ship pays $20k to $30k in insurance, which is a good deal less than the cost of armed security.

The insurers rake in a total $400M to $600M, paying out $100M.

Economically, it makes sense to just buy the insurance and pay the ransom.

It also, of course, encourages more pirates to join in, so in the long run is not a viable strategy.

14 posted on 04/26/2009 12:32:18 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Everyone has a right to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.)
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To: Sherman Logan

But where’s the fun in THAT ??

Plus, as Kipling noted, once you pay the Danegeld, you never get rid of the Dane. . .


15 posted on 04/26/2009 1:03:30 PM PDT by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border: I dare you to try and cross it. . .)
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To: Salgak

True enough, but Danegeld is usually, in the short term, a great deal less expensive than a war.

George Washington and John Adams both paid tribute to the Barbary pirates so our ship would not be molested. This was probably a lot less expensive than the cost of a military expedition.

It was left up to Jefferson, philosophically opposed to military action, to order the Navy and Marines into action against the enemy.


16 posted on 04/26/2009 4:36:09 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Everyone has a right to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.)
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