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Frank and Bachmann do battle over key ACORN amendment
The Hill ^

Posted on 04/30/2009 11:46:33 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Frank and Bachmann do battle over key ACORN amendment @ 2:29 pm by Michael O'Brien

Two partisan heavyweights did battle Thursday over an amendment prized by conservatives, as House Financial Services Chairman Barney Frank (D-Mass.) withdrew backing for a bill that would have toughened regulations for community organizing groups.

Frank withdrew his support from an amendment offered by Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) that would forbid groups like the Association of Community Organizers for Reform Now (ACORN) from receiving federal grants if any of their employees have been indicted for voter fraud.

After approving the amendment by a unanimous voice vote, Frank announced Thursday he was mistaken to back the bill, and said he'd offer a substitute that would apply the amendment only to groups with employees who are actually convicted — not just indicted. Frank's version would also take into account the employee's position in the organization, and how long ago the conviction had been handed down.

"Focusing on an indictment and letting an indictment be the trigger of penalties would be a violation the basic rules and fairness of American law," Frank told The Hill. "So if one person is indicted, the whole "innocent until proven guilty, etc"� just goes totally out the window."

"The temptation to indict someone you don't like — after the Ted Stevens thing, I don't even know how anyone could think about that," he said.

Bachmann blasted Frank for "siding with ACORN," a group that had stoked the ire of many conservatives for their efforts to turn out the vote for President Obama during the 2008 elections.

"Are we expected to keep forking over tax dollars to these organization when they're under the cloud of suspicion of a public criminal indictment?" Bachmann asked in a statement.

"If nothing else, this shows us just how much influence ACORN and others have over Chairman Frank and the Democrat party," she said. "Your tax dollars are being abused."


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: acorn; bachmann; barneyfrank; communityorganizer; corruption; democratparty; democrats; electionfraud; frank; michelebachmann; voterfraud
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1 posted on 04/30/2009 11:46:33 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

Rep. Bachman’s a good troop.

Barney? Never, ever forget this: If Barney likes any idea, it’s probably bad for America. He is such a putz.


2 posted on 04/30/2009 11:48:00 AM PDT by RexBeach ("Do your duty in all things." Robert E. Lee)
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To: Sub-Driver

Bachmann is one of the few Republicans to openly oppose Democrats who threaten America.

ITs no wonder libs and trolls have made her a favorite target.


3 posted on 04/30/2009 11:49:07 AM PDT by ZULU (Obamanation of Desolation is President. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: Sub-Driver

May the best woman win.


4 posted on 04/30/2009 11:49:28 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, Question everyone else)
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To: Sub-Driver

Good work Michele! Don’t let up!


5 posted on 04/30/2009 11:49:37 AM PDT by A. Morgan (The problem with Socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money. Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Sub-Driver

Go Bachmann!

Don’t back down!


6 posted on 04/30/2009 11:58:35 AM PDT by AmericanGirlRising (I'm a Christian, and I pray for Janet Napalotano. Yes, it's as hard to do as you might think it is.)
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To: Sub-Driver

I agree on the indictment/conviction thing, and would be willing to accept the conviction requirement. ACORN has a few employee convictions under its belt.


7 posted on 04/30/2009 11:59:07 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Sub-Driver

I’m not sure I disagree with Fwank on this one. While we may have a specific group in mind right now, this would probably only be used against a conservative group anyway. The real question is why are these hacks getting taxpayer money in the first place? If people are too dumb/lazy to register, let them be governed by people who aren’t.


8 posted on 04/30/2009 12:04:19 PM PDT by Gil4
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To: Sub-Driver

Bachmann is truly a blessing to the party! I think she and Sarah Palin both have more balls & testosterone than all of the men in the GOP combined!

We need them in the executive branch.......badly!

PALIN-BACHMANN, 2012!!!!!


9 posted on 04/30/2009 12:05:18 PM PDT by wk4bush2004 (PALIN-BACHMANN, 2012......."GIVE ESTROGEN A CHANCE!!!!")
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To: Sub-Driver

Sounds reasonable. Frank doesn’t want those dastardly honest people around.


10 posted on 04/30/2009 12:10:30 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: EGPWS

“May the best woman win.”

LOL, but no true woman would want Frank around...good grief, he sooooo represents the dim-bulb crats.


11 posted on 04/30/2009 12:12:26 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Sub-Driver

It’s a catfight and I’m putting my money on Bachman...


12 posted on 04/30/2009 12:15:38 PM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden (iIt)
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To: ZULU

ITs no wonder libs and trolls have made her a favorite target.

You got that right.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdjRFJQuoiI&feature=player_embedded


13 posted on 04/30/2009 12:23:25 PM PDT by griswold3 (a good story is more compelling than the search for truth)
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From Town Hall

Michele Bachmann wrote: Chairman Barney Frank accepted the amendment right there in front of the whole committee -- I assumed because it was his very own language as passed under the Housing and Economic Recovery Act (HERA) of 2008 -- and the amendment was then passed by unanimous voice vote.

What is it with these LYING Democrats? Don't they understand that we have PROOF of what they said in the past? Follow the money (to ACORN).

Democrats live in a time warp.
14 posted on 04/30/2009 12:26:41 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (The Constitution & Bill of Rights stand as a whole. Remove any part & nullify the whole.)
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"If nothing else, this shows us just how much influence ACORN and others have over Chairman Frank and the Democrat party," she said. "Your tax dollars are being abused."

Heh, you GO, girl!

15 posted on 04/30/2009 12:43:41 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: griswold3
They can't take away from her beauty or her intelligence.

We must come together, as conservatives, and stand up and support and fight for those who have the courage to speak out against the villains who oppress us.

Never should we allow what happened to Gingrich and others to occur again. The Dems and libs think that by attacking these spokespersons we will crumble and run away as we have so often done in the past. We need not only support people like Bachmann, Toomey and Simcox, but come back and attack those so-called “Republicans” like Orrin Hatch who would much rather just sit back, rack up their paycheck and benefits and not rock the boat. Its time for THEM to go!!! And we need to tell THEM!!!!

16 posted on 04/30/2009 12:45:51 PM PDT by ZULU (Obamanation of Desolation is President. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: Sub-Driver

ACORn is prime for a RICO lawsuit... heck so is Planned Parenthood


17 posted on 04/30/2009 12:54:23 PM PDT by GeronL (TYRANNY SENTINEL. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com LIBERTY FICTION at libertyfic.proboards.com)
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To: ZULU

The Republicans have got to quit behaving like they’re at a Rotary meeting.


18 posted on 04/30/2009 1:02:05 PM PDT by griswold3 (a good story is more compelling than the search for truth)
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To: griswold3

RULES People!

Palin/Bachmann 2012!


19 posted on 04/30/2009 1:11:00 PM PDT by bicyclerepair (Thank you Mr. Robinson from Ft. Lauderdale (toodamtall1@yahoo.com))
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To: Sub-Driver
Ah yes....Fwank will always “bend over backwards” to protect his ACORN groupies.
20 posted on 04/30/2009 1:16:46 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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