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President Bush Mortgage Speech 2002(Helping those w bad credit buy houses)
youtube/twit273 ^ | September 24, 2008 | sickoflibs

Posted on 05/01/2009 8:51:06 PM PDT by sickoflibs

GWB 2002 Speech :”More and more people own their homes in America today. Yet we have a problem here in America because fewer than half the Hispanics and African Americans own their own homes. That’s a home ownership gap; a gap that we got to work together to close. And by the end of this decade we’ll increase the number of minority homeowners (future Obama voters ) by 5.5 million families. “

“One of the major obstacles to minority home-ownership is financing. Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac (who I will bail out in 2008) have committed to provide more money for lenders, they committed to meet the shortage of capital available for minority home-buyers. Freddie Mac just began 25 initiatives around the country to dismantle barriers (like income requirements) and create better opportunities for home-ownership. One of the programs is designed to help families with bad credit histories to qualify for home ownership loans (by faking their income) . You don’t have to have a lousy home for first time home-buyers. You put your mind to it the first time low income home buyer can have just as nice a house as anyone else (till those adjustable rates go up). “

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2002; bush; housingbubble; mortgagecrisis; mortgages; schifflist
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To: sickoflibs

No.

Schiff is talking about when Republicans govern. There is a world of empirical facts we can examine. They did govern in a fiscally conservative manner from 1994-1997. This caused them to lose power in 1998. This caused compassionate conservatism.

Its not complicated and we can learn from these mistakes.

perhaps you and schiff both think that world is only 5 years old.

We have Bush’s stated positions. You made a good early start by posting a speech by Bush. I posted 17 different stances Bush made to prevent mortgage abuse. That is germane and significant.

I have no values and only loyalty.

That is a shame. It would be good if I had values.


121 posted on 05/02/2009 8:33:32 PM PDT by lonestar67 ("I love my country a lot more than I love politics," President George W. Bush)
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To: dalereed

For a moment I thought your claim was without merit or substance, but then I noticed it was IN ALL CAPS. THEN I REALIZED YOU MUST BE CORRECT.


122 posted on 05/02/2009 8:34:26 PM PDT by lonestar67 ("I love my country a lot more than I love politics," President George W. Bush)
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To: sickoflibs

Parenthesis were clever~


123 posted on 05/02/2009 8:34:36 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://www.americasupportsyou.mil/)
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To: lonestar67; sickoflibs; Pelham; nufsed
Bush did win an election in 2004. You and your friends had an opportunity to be purists then and failed.

You're targeting the wrong person. 1) I'm not a purist and 2) I worked hard along with the SBVFT to expose the evil of John Kerry that probably won GWB the election.

I also bit my tongue about GWB for EIGHT LONG YEARS. So, if you don't like a little honest retrospective now, stuff it!

124 posted on 05/02/2009 8:35:17 PM PDT by calcowgirl (RECALL Abel Maldonado! - NO on Props 1A 1B 1C 1D 1E 1F)
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To: calcowgirl

Are there any other known political advocates of reforming mortgage application processes?

I have identified one— George W. Bush.

Can you identify others?


125 posted on 05/02/2009 8:35:54 PM PDT by lonestar67 ("I love my country a lot more than I love politics," President George W. Bush)
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To: calcowgirl

Hey— good for you. You did some research and figured out how Congress backed out of the reforms advocated by Bush.

That’s good and I have no problem with that.

Nonetheless, it does not change the comprehensive reforms advocated by the Bush administration. I have never denied that the Republican Congress refused to implement them— as was the case in 2005.

Nonetheless, I also recognize that Fannie Mae, AIG and others made their most substantial donations to democrats to keep this machine going even stronger in 2007.

There is no attempt on my part to change history and your Shelby component only adds to the story I have already told. It does not contradict it.


126 posted on 05/02/2009 8:39:00 PM PDT by lonestar67 ("I love my country a lot more than I love politics," President George W. Bush)
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To: calcowgirl

Now you are making me sad.

I have repeatedly recognized the higher quality of your arguments compared to sickoflibs. There is no need to be so touchy about it.

I am not surprised to read of your role in Swift Boat vets. That is a great example of how a small group of determined people can literally win an election.

In the hundreds of pro Bush posts I have made, I have never begrudged anyone constructing better alternatives for the future. Bush was better than mcCAin in 2000, he was better that Gore in the general, Bush was better than kerry in 2004, McCain was alot worse than Bush in 2008 but better than Obama.

Make your arguments and make them well.

You pull your weight. You are specific. I don’t want GWB being left holding the bag on all known political problems.


127 posted on 05/02/2009 8:42:50 PM PDT by lonestar67 ("I love my country a lot more than I love politics," President George W. Bush)
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To: lonestar67; sickoflibs; Liz
Are there any other known political advocates of reforming mortgage application processes? I have identified one— George W. Bush. Can you identify others?

La Raza, LULAC, and the NAACP.

They all appreciated GWB's "reforms" to eliminate those "barriers" to mortgage lending... like the barrier of having any money, or having lousy credit history. HURRAY for Prez Bush!

Oh, yeah... and the builders and lenders loved it too. More customers!

And the illegal aliens loved it too... construction jobs and free houses!

128 posted on 05/02/2009 8:43:59 PM PDT by calcowgirl (RECALL Abel Maldonado! - NO on Props 1A 1B 1C 1D 1E 1F)
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To: calcowgirl

laraza lulac and naacp

You know that those groups opposed the reforms and sided with Barney Frank.

You disappoint me with this argument.

Those groups want anyone to get a loan and they hope the loans never get paid back.

That is not the Bush administration position. This is not pie in the sky. Study the 17 arguments I presented on the internet in fuller context. The same reforms had already been implemented in Texas. These probelms were highly isolated geographically.

Yes the builders loved it— I have no problem with that. I do have a problem with illegal aliens buying houses.


129 posted on 05/02/2009 8:46:55 PM PDT by lonestar67 ("I love my country a lot more than I love politics," President George W. Bush)
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To: calcowgirl; lonestar67; sickoflibs; Liz
Oh, yeah... and the builders and lenders loved it too. More customers

It was a great strategy to get past an election at any cost. Boom the economy to no end w stimulus, when it crashes we can depend on Bush-bots like lone-bush-bot to blame it on everyone else but Bush. Take the credit, pass the blame. Except voters wouldnt buy it. I wonder why?

lone-bush-bot has no principles, only loyalty.

130 posted on 05/02/2009 8:57:04 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Bush-bot/Obama /Pelosi,Theme : "A dollar borrowed or printed is a dollar earned!")
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To: lonestar67
NAR Hails House Passage Of American Dream Downpayment Act
U.S. Newswire. Washington: Oct 1, 2003. pg. 1

WASHINGTON, Oct. 1 /U.S. Newswire/ -- The National Association of Realtors(r) hailed the U.S. House of Representatives for passing legislation today that would provide $400 million in grants over the next two years to help 80,000 low-income families pay downpayment and closing costs on their first homes.

The American Dream Downpayment Act, H.R. 1276, is one of NAR's top legislative priorities this Congress. The bill was introduced earlier this year by U.S. Rep. Katherine Harris (R-Fla.). U.S. Sen. Wayne Allard (R-Colo.) has introduced companion legislation, S. 811, in the Senate.

NAR also commended President George W. Bush and U.S. Housing and Urban Development (HUD) Secretary Mel Martinez for first proposing the idea for the legislation as part of the administration's commitment to help low-income and minority families achieve the American dream of the homeownership.

"Realtors applaud the Bush administration and Reps. Mike Oxley (R- Ohio), Barney Frank (D-Mass.), Bob Ney (R-Ohio) and Maxine Waters (D- Calif.) for their outstanding leadership and commitment to helping more families achieve the American dream of homeownership through the American Dream Downpayment Act," said NAR President Cathy Whatley, owner of Buck & Buck Inc. in Jacksonville, Fla. "NAR is thrilled to support legislation that would reduce two of the biggest barriers to homeownership -- downpayment and closing costs -- for 40,000 families a year. Although our homeownership rate is at a record high, one out of seven American families still faces critical housing needs. The American Dream Downpayment Act is a tremendous program that would not only create thousands of housing opportunities but also help sustain the housing market, which has been the pillar of our economy."

The bill would provide an average of $5,000 in downpayment and closing cost assistance to help first-time homebuyers with annual incomes that do not exceed 80 percent of the area median income. Grants would be made to state and local governments through HUD's HOME Investment Partnership program. The initiative is one of many discussed at last week's National Summit on Housing Opportunities convened by NAR.

The National Association of Realtors(r), "The Voice for Real Estate," is America's largest trade association, representing over 950,000 members involved in all aspects of the residential and commercial real estate industries.

131 posted on 05/02/2009 9:08:40 PM PDT by calcowgirl (RECALL Abel Maldonado! - NO on Props 1A 1B 1C 1D 1E 1F)
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To: sickoflibs
It was a great strategy to get past an election at any cost. Boom the economy to no end w stimulus

It also helped fund their campaigns. Lots of back scratchin'.

132 posted on 05/02/2009 9:10:42 PM PDT by calcowgirl (RECALL Abel Maldonado! - NO on Props 1A 1B 1C 1D 1E 1F)
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To: lonestar67

LOL. I’m not touchy. I’m just tired of your mundane “you must be an Obama supporter” crap that you hurl at anyone who looks at the history objectively and without your partisan glasses.

GWB will not be left “holding the bag for all known political problems” but unless we are honest about who is causing those problems, we’ll never be able to fix them.

As I said before, I’m from the “government is not my friend” camp. It is not a matter of which candidate is worse — it is a matter of opposing all of them when they are wrong and supporting them when they are right. We see far too little of the latter from any of the charlatans we have in D.C. or our state capitols.


133 posted on 05/02/2009 9:17:41 PM PDT by calcowgirl (RECALL Abel Maldonado! - NO on Props 1A 1B 1C 1D 1E 1F)
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To: lonestar67
Study the 17 arguments I presented on the internet in fuller context

LOL. I have.

Unfortunately for you, your arguments go "up in smoke" pretty quickly the further you look.

134 posted on 05/02/2009 9:37:09 PM PDT by calcowgirl (RECALL Abel Maldonado! - NO on Props 1A 1B 1C 1D 1E 1F)
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To: lonestar67; sickoflibs
Lulac, La Raza, and the NAACP appreciate the generosity of President Bush, Denny Hastert, Mel Martinez, and House Republicans.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/993293/posts

Speaker Hastert Touts Law Closing the Homeownership Gap for Minorities
Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 4:10:41 PM by chance33_98

WASHINGTON, Oct. 1 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Today, Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) and U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development Secretary Mel Martinez joined House Republicans to tout the passage of the American Dream Downpayment Act (H.R. 1276) that will provide $5,000 each to low-income, first time home buyers. The bill, which was approved by the House by a voice vote, will provide $200 million in grant funds to help 40,000 low-income families with the down payment and expensive closing costs in buying a home.

Following the event, the Speaker released the following statement:

"As Speaker, I'm proud the U.S. House is passing this bill to help working families, like Mrs. Susie Dixon who joins us today. Essential to all families, like Susie's, is trying to achieve the American Dream of homeownership. This long overdue initiative provides assistance through $5,000 grants to low income, first-time homebuyers across the country to help with exceedingly difficult down payment and closing costs.

"While more than two-thirds of all Americans own their home, less than half of all African-American and Hispanic families do not. By passing this bill, the Republican House is working with President Bush to close this homeownership gap.

"Also very important is the fact that this bill will help construct 13,000 new homes. According to the Department of Housing and Urban Development, building these homes will create 33,000 new jobs - what a much-needed shot in the arm to our nation's economic recovery and improvement of our local communities. That's a win-win situation for minority homeowners and American workers.

"By passing the American Dream Down Payment Act, we will help empower every community. We will help lift up our African-American and Hispanic Communities. As House Republicans, we recognize the significance this initiative will have to help families already owning a home, but more importantly, how it will help close the homeownership gap for those still trying to achieve this part of the American Dream."


135 posted on 05/02/2009 9:51:32 PM PDT by calcowgirl (RECALL Abel Maldonado! - NO on Props 1A 1B 1C 1D 1E 1F)
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To: lonestar67

“The speech has no negative content”

Oh yeah, the part praising Fannie Mae’s Franklin Raines for ladling out taxpayer money was especially good. As was the entire premise of the American Dream Downpayment Initiative, where taxpayers were put on the hook to provide ‘free’ down payments for Dubya’s favorite minorities.

How could any of us be so blind to Bush’s genius? Without those ‘free’ down payments we would have been deprived of tens of thousands of additional sub-prime candidates to further balloon the housing bubble. Yes, the ADDI was pure genius.

Not being prone to hero-worshipping politicians I’m always amazed at the ability of some to rationalize away the behavior of their heroes.


136 posted on 05/02/2009 10:42:11 PM PDT by Pelham (America, an extinct culture formerly occupying Mexifornia and New Aztlan.)
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To: calcowgirl
Senate Banking Committee Chairman Richard C. Shelby (R-Ala.) has come out against a proposal to divert a portion of the profits of housing giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to pay for affordable housing, a committee spokesman said yesterday, perhaps undermining Democratic support for legislation to strengthen oversight of the two companies.

Wait a minute. How can Fannie and Freddie have "profits" when they get billions in bailouts? I have also heard about banks getting huge bailouts that they did not pay back, claim they have "profits." Sounds like accounting sophistry to me.

137 posted on 05/02/2009 10:45:18 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Obama's multi- trillion dollar agenda would be a "man caused disaster")
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To: calcowgirl; lonestar67
RE :”Study the 17 arguments I presented on the internet in fuller context

Lone-bush bots argument is that Bush wouldn't get reforms through a Republican congress. But we know from great research here that Bush managed to get home-loans to poor bad credit minorities with NO downpayments. So he could get some stuff through a republican congress. He got Iraq invasion vote through. Perhaps he could have said the deadbeats buying houses, his goal, had WMDS to get the republicans congress to pass those reforms you claim.

Note lone-bush-bots logic, its not Bush's fault, it;s Obamas, it's republicans, its anyone who asked him to do whatever he did. Lone bot has fixed no standards by which to judge Obama on.

138 posted on 05/03/2009 5:36:17 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Bush-bot/Obama /Pelosi,Theme : "A dollar borrowed or printed is a dollar earned!")
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To: sickoflibs
You can never win an argument with a big Gub’ment type, the two party system is the real cause for concern. They work in concert with each providing slight of hand for the other. We as a people are caught in their web of outright lies while they the elite have set themselves up to rule over us as would feudal lords. Both parties have taken from the States those rights that were once belonging to the States and therefore the people. I would go so far as to say that the federal Gub’ment is in such a breech of contract that it holds the people in outright contempt. We need to expand the Tea Party movement quickly as they even now conspire on both sides of the isle against it. The Democrats wish to quash it while the Republicans seek to take it over through a coup. I was truly angered by the Republicans who were given speaking rights at both the Tea Parties I attended, that will not go unchallenged next time around as I have procured my own bullhorn and can match wits with any of them.
139 posted on 05/03/2009 6:57:26 AM PDT by Camel Joe ("All animals are created equal, but some animals are more equal than others"- The Pigs)
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To: Camel Joe; calcowgirl
RE:”I was truly angered by the Republicans who were given speaking rights at both the Tea Parties I attended, that will not go unchallenged next time around as I have procured my own bullhorn and can match wits with any of them.

This is exactly how I feel. Last year during election there were swarms of lone-bush-bots, egged on by talk radio. The message was, “ It's either Obama or not Obama, choose your side ”, If you asked “ But what about Republicans ...? ”, the reply was “ Are you a Marxist? ” exactly as lone-bush-bot is doing now. This attitude gives republicans a complete pass by a shrinking pool of supporters who call everyone else stupid or marxist. (as some of talk radio do.)

Levin and Hannity both told listeners to go door to door to get out the McCain vote (how could we do this??), and Hannity predicted a McCain win.

140 posted on 05/03/2009 7:16:20 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Bush-bot/Obama /Pelosi,Theme : "A dollar borrowed or printed is a dollar earned!")
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