Posted on 05/01/2009 10:02:59 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan
We want to send a decrepid old man to trial for warcrimes, while at the same time we want to pull todays terrorists out of Gitmo and send them home?????
So, Mr. Tannenbaum is 75 years old now, but he was a “kapo”
in a camp?
So, was he born around 1934?
How many “kapos” were 10 years old in the camps?
BTW, I literally just got back from a unique family meeting, where my family met a couple of relatives who we did not even know existed.
We have a very rare name in the world.
Our families all came from a small province in is what is now
Ukraine.
It was the Volhynian Oblast, under Polish, and then Russian rule.
My family was able to escape from 1900 to 1915, while this other part of our “new family” that we met, only tonight,
was sent to Siberia.
That they ever made it out is amazing to me.
John Denjanjuk will be judged by an entity much more wise than a European court will ever be.
Sorry Chet, I missed the 1987 tag on your post.
It certainly puts him there, mature, at the time.
It was a horrific period, not too long ago.
I fear for our future.
(But I am prepared.)
(Interesting side note: the original "Ivan the Terrible" for Ivan IV of Muscovy, is a mistranslation. "Grozny" means "awe-inspiring" or "fearsome", not what we usually think of as "terrible".)
The US government imported thousands of not just Nazis but in fact SS troops to help form the basis of what later was called the CIA, in order to work against the Communist threat. This of course explains why American policy which was inherently anti-Communism was transformed into anti-Russian, as it still is. But evidently, you can be a real Nazi and get into America as long as you didn't lie on the paperwork.
No, the US Govt let it go because they did not want undue attention brought to those events by a large war crimes trial. Personally, given Imperial Japans atrocities, the trials should have been held.
No doubt trials should have been held. I am not sure POWs were ever treated any worse than the Japanese treated our American soldiers.
They weren’t in my judgement. Hence, I think that they should have went forward with them..
From the US point of view, that would be the thing..
Tannenbaum lost his citizenship but wasn't deported anywhere. There were about three other procedings in the fifties, one successful, but it doesn't look like denaturalization and deportation were very seriously pursued in more than a handful of cases. Of course "kapo" has different connotations. Not all kapos -- Jewish or gentile -- were guards or killers.
Maybe I'm wrong about that. I was thinking about work details, who survived when others died. So far as I can find out a kapo was an overseer, and hence, in a way, a guard.
Last month, when the Ted Stevens conviction was thrown out, I did some reading about the prosecutors. One of the DOJ attorneys that was held in contempt for failing to turn over documents and thrown off the Stevens case (Patty Stemler) is the same one that was rebuked by a judge in 1992 for failing to disclose evidence in Demjanjuk’s case, specifically documents and witness statements that showed he was not Ivan as had been alleged.
And yet, as I noted, we allow George Soros, a man convicted of a felony in France and who admitted in his own biography to identifying Jews for teh Nazis so they could be sent off to the concentration camps to be killed, to remain in this country? If we’re going after Demjanjuk, a draftee, then we should denaturalize and deport Soros, who did worse IMO than Demjanjuk did.
On what authority were the Nazis or the Japanese tried?
no they didnt!
http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/1997/08/10/1997-08-10_osi_has_nailed_scores_of_ex-.html
“Kapos” were Jews who agreed to oversee fellow prisoners in exchange for favorable treatment by their Nazi captors. Tannenbaum was charged with beating Jewish prisoners, and he settled with the OSI by admitting to its charges to dodge deportation. “
He was in a german prison camp - there is no doubt about that and he only lied to stop being sent back to the communists where he was surely to be killed.
http://www.geocities.com/kitezhgrad/history/keelhaul.html
Doesn’t matter.
On the citizenship application it warns that lying on the form will result in rejection.
He lied.
Out he goes.
“Doesnt matter.
On the citizenship application it warns that lying on the form will result in rejection.
He lied”
Well then how come they let the Jewish Nazi off Scott Free?
http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/1997/08/10/1997-08-10_osi_has_nailed_scores_of_ex-.html
The Soviets had their Nazis working for them, we had ours.
So the evidence against Demjanjuk, came from the KGB? Now they would never falsify anything, would they? FWIW, any Red Army soldier captured by the Germans, by Soviet policy, were considered traitors and therefore condemned to death should they ever return to Soviet soil.
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