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Woman ordained as Catholic priest to celebrate Mass in Syracuse suburb
Syracuse NY Post Standard ^ | Friday May 01, 2009, 7:23 PM | by Renee K. Gadoua

Posted on 05/02/2009 7:10:09 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines

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To: TurtleUp
I’m not a Catholic, but I believe it is time for the Catholic Church to ordain women. However, that is not my choice; it is the choice of the church. This woman is not an ordained Catholic priest, and she should be ashamed of herself for pretending that she is.

The way the Catholic Church works, is that doctrine is handled by the Pope. It is in no way a democracy. Any Catholic who does not wish to accept the Pope's authority, while intending to remain Christian, is by definition now a Protestant.

61 posted on 05/02/2009 9:10:26 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money -- Thatcher)
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To: nufsed

If all Scripture is given by God, which the book itself attests, why do you reject the portions in Acts and Timothy that describe the qualifications for deacons and elders, that talk about needing to be the ‘husband of one wife.” Women cannot be husbands no more than they can be fathers.


62 posted on 05/02/2009 9:10:44 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Woman ordained as Catholic priest...

She wasn't.

...to celebrate Mass in Syracuse suburb

It won't be.

63 posted on 05/02/2009 9:11:31 AM PDT by Petronski (Learn about the 'cytokine storm.')
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To: TurtleUp
I’m not a Catholic, but I believe it is time for the Catholic Church to ordain women.

It is truly none of your business.

64 posted on 05/02/2009 9:12:27 AM PDT by Petronski (Learn about the 'cytokine storm.')
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Published: October 16, 2003

ATLANTA—An Atlanta judge has issued a permanent injunction barring the non-Catholic “Capilla de la Fe” network of Hispanic churches from portraying itself as Catholic.

Its leaders and those speaking on behalf of the group also must inform anyone who asks that neither they nor the organization are Catholic or associated with the Catholic Church; that they are not ordained Roman Catholic priests; and that any religious ceremonies or rites they perform are not authorized by the Roman Catholic Church.

The order was issued Oct. 3 by Fulton County Superior Court Judge Alice D. Bonner. It came in response to a civil complaint lodged by the Atlanta Archdiocese and Archbishop John F. Donoghue.

Archdiocesan attorney David Brown had said in an interview Aug. 27 with The Georgia Bulletin that the group, which has a network of nine churches around North Georgia, was calling itself Catholic and misrepresenting itself to unsuspecting Hispanic people as Catholic through its use of the Mass, the sacraments, clerical dress and observance of other Roman Catholic traditions...


65 posted on 05/02/2009 9:16:37 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Yorlik803

The malcontents want to destroy the Catholic Church just as the Anglican church was destroyed from inside. All this was done while the secular media cheered it on as an advancement into modernity.


66 posted on 05/02/2009 9:17:42 AM PDT by mimaw
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
The Rev. Gabriella Velardi-Ward, a member of RC Womenpriests, an international group of Catholics who advocate women's ordination, will lead a 2:30 p.m. liturgy at the Upstate New York Call to Action conference at Le Moyne Manor in Liverpool.

The conference will also include presentations by the Rev. Roy Bourgeois, who has been criticized by the Vatican for participating at a Womenpriest ordination; and Mary Hunt, a native of Syracuse and a feminist theologian who is co-founder and co-director of the Women's Alliance for Theology, Ethics and Ritual.

The heretic Gabriella Velardi-Ward is a former Catholic who now has her own denomination, along with her friend, fellow heretic Roy Bourgeois. I pray that these demented people fail to lead many misguided, heretical members of their new congregation, away from the mother church. I pray that they all repent for the sake of their members, and for their own sake.

67 posted on 05/02/2009 9:17:53 AM PDT by olezip
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
the church should begin ordaining women. "They are shutting down parishes all over the country, not just in the Syracuse Diocese,"

Great-- ordain a bunch of shrieking feministas and send them out the hector and scandalize unsuspecting parishes. Tell people how abortion is "a blessing." Yeah, that will solve a lot of problems. Just look at how well it has worked for the Episcopal Church and the UCC.

68 posted on 05/02/2009 9:22:12 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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Any Catholic Bishop who ordained a woman priest would get booted quicker than jump-jack-flash.

People (and the liberal MSM polls) have been saying “In due time, the church will accept women priest” for years now. It’s been 2000 years and the dogmas are well entrenched....and for good reasons. To simply fold to every fad, fashion or whim and you won’t have a Catholic Church anymore.

Funny, they don’t say this for Islam. (sarc)


69 posted on 05/02/2009 9:22:34 AM PDT by ak267
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To: TurtleUp
...and she should be ashamed of herself for pretending that she is.

It is the people who are attending these fake services who ought to be ashamed. Play-acting at worship, receiving a wafer that is not the Body of Christ, as it has not been consecrated, this is worse than an ignorant non-Catholic receiving Communion because he is simply following what the others are doing. This is KNOWINGLY PERPETRATING A FRAUD, that they do it in His Name is just so bad, it breaks my heart.

70 posted on 05/02/2009 9:23:56 AM PDT by MozarkDawg
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To: mimaw

One more step in the destruction of basic morality.


71 posted on 05/02/2009 9:24:30 AM PDT by Yorlik803 ( If this be treason, then lets make the best of it.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

It was made up by the men in charge at the time and aftr Chruist was around preaching, as it has been for the last 2,000 years. What you have to decide is, if the change comes in your lifetime, will you accept it or judge the church’s decrees with your own God given brains and judgement just as I am now.


72 posted on 05/02/2009 9:24:41 AM PDT by nufsed (Release the birth certificate, school and passport records.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

She ain’t a priest.


73 posted on 05/02/2009 9:25:04 AM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: reefdiver
I'm not in favor of priesthood for women; mainly because at this point in history, I doubt the motives of most women seeking it.

However, your comment about Christ's intentions and his apostles is specious.

Christ had many women disciples: the Magdalene woman, Martha, Mary, Salome, etc. He used some of them to announce the greatest news of all time (His resurrection) to his doubting and fearful male disciples.

That the women didn't get equal billing in the New Testament story tells more about the facts of society in that era and the authors than Christ's intention. In fact, St Paul lauded the Christian ministering of some women in his letters.

74 posted on 05/02/2009 9:35:14 AM PDT by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( The Constitution needs No interpreting, only APPLICATION!)
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To: nufsed

It was not “made up” by men. You either are not clear about, or do not believe that, Scripture is inspired by God, written through men, but given to them by God, to be written down and preserved.


75 posted on 05/02/2009 9:41:54 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: TurtleUp
The problem with your "solution" is that it is not "practical" at all. Every denomination that has ordained women has begun a terminal decline into heterodoxy and universalism, with increasing loss of membership rather than growth.

Worldwide the RC Church is growing vigorously. Only in the "postchristian" West is a shortage of priests a problem. The real solution to that seems empirically to be to encourage a conservative theology from the top down. It would be devastating to give in and surrender to "progressive" elements who are committed not to the gospel but only to themselves and their self-aggrandizement.

76 posted on 05/02/2009 9:42:36 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY

Of course, because there are many positions of ministry that ARE open to women. Being church leaders are not. There are many kinds of ministries that women, and men who do not fit the qualifications to be church leaders, can do.


77 posted on 05/02/2009 9:43:39 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: nufsed

It’s not so much who he traveled with that’s the issue. It’s who he *ordained*—who he consecrated and set up as leaders of the Church. Jesus picked only men like Peter, and those men picked only men like Linus, Cletus, and Clement. Then those men picked only men. Then those men picked only men. And on and on to today.

Meanwhile nobody among all those men seemed to care about nationality. Peter was a Jew, but he ordained Clement who was a Roman. There were Greeks, Syrians, Egyptians, and later on Gauls and Ethiopians. If Thomas indeed made it to India as tradition states, he probably appointed an Indian. You’d think that if there were a problem with nationality, it would have come out somewhere along the line. But it didn’t. So it must not have been a problem.

It’s Jesus’s Church, not ours, and while He gives us liberty in a number of different areas, no one ever thought, for 2000 years, that anyone had any liberty to ordain women to the priesthood. And this was, mind you, smack in the midst of pagan cultures who had priestesses, so I don’t think the opportunity wasn’t there.


78 posted on 05/02/2009 9:44:54 AM PDT by Claud
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To: Owl_Eagle

“I ordained myself President and Supreme Leader of the United States.”

Are you a natural born US citizen?


79 posted on 05/02/2009 9:47:41 AM PDT by 353FMG
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Sorry. This non-catholic will not attend a church when a woman is in a leadership capacity.

There are some things that are against G_d's teaching, and having a woman lead the church is one of them.

80 posted on 05/02/2009 9:50:43 AM PDT by Maigrey (Life, for a liberal, is one never-ending game of Calvinball. - giotto)
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