Posted on 05/02/2009 3:35:50 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan
Of those living today in America who were alive 50 years ago, few could have imagined, let alone predicted, that homosexuality would encroach on our culture as it has. In fact, it would have been unthinkable. The rapidity with which homosexual activists continue successfully to bully the nation to normalize what once was universally considered abnormal is astonishing. And toleration has not satisfied them. Allowing their views to be taught in public schools has not appeased them. No, they insist that societal endorsement extend to redefining marriage to include same-sex couples.
A pernicious plague of sexual insanity is creeping insidiously through American civilization. Far more deadly than the external threat of terrorism, or even the inevitable dilution of traditional American values caused by the infiltration of illegal immigrants and the influx of those who do not share the Christian worldview, this domino effect will ultimately end in the moral implosion of America. Indeed, America is being held captive by moral terrorists. The social engineers of political correctness have been working overtime for decades to restructure public morality.
The Founding Fathers of these United States would be incredulous, incensed, and outraged. They understood that acceptance of homosexuality would undermine and erode the moral foundations of civilization. Sodomy, the longtime historical term for same-sex relations, was a capital crime under British common law. Sir William Blackstone, British attorney, jurist, law professor, and political philosopher, authored his monumental Commentaries on the Laws of England from 1765-1769. These commentaries became the premiere legal source admired and used by Americas Founding Fathers. In Book the Fourth, Chapter the Fifteenth, Of Offences Against the Persons of Individuals, Blackstone stated:
IV. WHAT has been here observed..., which ought to be the more clear in proportion as the crime is the more detestable, may be applied to another offence, of a still deeper malignity; the infamous crime against nature, committed either with man or beast.... But it is an offence of so dark a nature...that the accusation should be clearly made out....
I WILL not act so disagreeable part, to my readers as well as myself, as to dwell any longer upon a subject, the very mention of which is a disgrace to human nature. It will be more eligible to imitate in this respect the delicacy of our English law, which treats it, in its very indictments, as a crime not fit to be named; peccatum illud horribile, inter chriftianos non nominandum [that horrible sin not to be named among ChristiansDM]. A taciturnity observed likewise by the edict of Constantius and Constans: ubi fcelus eft id, quod non proficit fcire, jubemus infurgere leges, armari jura gladio ultore, ut exquifitis poenis fubdantur infames, qui funt, vel qui futuri funt, rei [When that crime is found, which is not profitable to know, we order the law to bring forth, to provide justice by force of arms with an avenging sword, that the infamous men be subjected to the due punishment, those who are found, or those who future will be found, in the deedDM]. Which leads me to add a work concerning its punishment.
THIS the voice of nature and of reason, and the express law of God, determine to be capital. Of which we have a signal instance, long before the Jewish dispensation, by the destruction of two cities by fire from heaven: so that this is an universal, not merely a provincial, precept. And our ancient law in some degree imitated this punishment, by commanding such miscreants to be burnt to death; though Fleta says they should be buried alive: either of which punishments was indifferently used for this crime among the ancient Goths. But now the general punishment of all felonies is the fame, namely, by hanging: and this offence (being in the times of popery only subject to ecclesiastical censures) was made single felony by the statute 25 Hen. VIII. c. 6. and felony without benefit of clergy by statute 5 Eliz. c. 17. And the rule of law herein is, that, if both are arrived at years of discretion, agentes et confentientes pari poena plectantur [advocates and conspirators should be punished with like punishmentDM] (1769, 4.15.215-216, emp. added).
Here was the law of Englandcommon lawunder which Americans lived prior to achieving independence. That law did not change after gaining independence. To say the least, such thinking is hardly politically correct by todays standards.
How many Americans realize that while serving as the Commander-in-Chief of the Continental Army during the Revolutionary War, the Father of our country was apprised of a homosexual in the army. The response of General Washington was immediate and decisive. He issued General Orders from Army Headquarters at Valley Forge on Saturday, March 14, 1778:
At a General Court Martial whereof Colo. Tupper was President (10th March 1778) Lieutt. Enslin of Colo. Malcoms Regiment tried for attempting to commit sodomy, with John Monhort a soldier; Secondly, For Perjury in swearing to false Accounts, found guilty of the charges exhibited against him, being breaches of 5th Article 18th Section of the Articles of War and do sentence him to be dismissd the service with Infamy. His Excellency the Commander in Chief approves the sentence and with Abhorrence and Detestation of such Infamous Crimes orders Lieutt. Enslin to be drummed out of Camp tomorrow morning by all the Drummers and Fifers in the Army never to return; The Drummers and Fifers to attend on the Grand Parade at Guard mounting for that Purpose (George..., underline in orig., emp. added).
Observe that the Father of our country viewed sodomy (the 18th-century word for homosexual relations) with Abhorrence and Detestation.
Homosexuality was treated as a criminal offense in all of the original thirteen colonies, and eventually every one of the fifty states (see Robinson, 2003; Sodomy Laws..., 2003). Severe penalties were invoked for those who engaged in homosexuality. In fact, few Americans know that the penalty for homosexuality in several states was deathincluding New York, Vermont, Connecticut, and South Carolina (Barton, 2000, pp. 306,482). Most people nowadays would be shocked to learn that Thomas Jefferson advocated dismemberment as the penalty for homosexuality in his home state of Virginia, and even authored a bill to that effect (1781, Query 14; cf. 1903, 1:226-227).
Where did the Founding Fathers and early American citizenry derive their views on homosexuality? The historically unequivocal answer isthe Bible. Traditional (i.e., biblical) marriage in this country has always been between a man and a woman. In the words of Jesus: Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning made them male and female, and said, For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh? (Matthew 19:4-5, emp. added). He was merely quoting the statement made by God regarding His creation of the first man and woman (Genesis 1:27; 2:24). God created Adam and Evenot Adam and Steve, or Eve and Ellen. And throughout the rest of biblical history, Gods attitude toward same-sex relations remained the same (Miller, et al., 2003).
In the greater scheme of human history, as civilizations have proceeded down the usual pathway of moral deterioration and eventual demise, the acceptance of same-sex relations has typically triggered the final stages of impending social implosion. America is being brought to the very brink of moral destruction. The warning issued by God to the Israelites regarding their own ability to sustain their national existence in the Promised Land is equally apropos for America:
You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination.... Do not defile yourselves with any of these things; for by all these the nations are defiled, which I am casting out before you. For the land is defiled; therefore I visit the punishment of its iniquity upon it, and the land vomits out its inhabitants. You shall therefore keep My statutes and My judgments, and shall not commit any of these abominations...lest the land vomit you out also when you defile it, as it vomited out the nations that were before you (Leviticus 18:22-28, emp. added).
Mark it down: THE GOD OF THE BIBLE WILL NOT ALLOW THE ABOMINATION OF HOMOSEXUALITY TO GO UNCHALLENGED AND UNPUNISHED. Unless something is done to stop the moral degeneration, America would do well to prepare for the inevitable, divine expulsion.
Barton, David (2002), Original Intent (Aledo, TX: Wallbuilders), 3rd edition.
Blackstone, William (1769), Commentaries on the Laws of England, [On-line], URL: http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/blackstone/bk4ch15.htm.
George Washington, March 14, 1778, General Orders (1778), The George Washington Papers at the Library of Congress, 1741-1799, from ed. John C. Fitzpatrick, The Writings of George Washington from the Original Manuscript Sources, 1745-1799, [On-line], URL: http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?ammem/mgw:@field(DOCID+@lit (gw110081)).
Jefferson, Thomas (1781), Notes on the State of Virginia, The Avalon Project at Yale Law School, [On-line], URL: http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/jevifram.htm.
Miller, Dave, et al.(2003), An Investigation of the Biblical Evidence Against Homosexuality, Reason & Revelation, 24[9]:81, December, [On-line], URL: http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/2577.
Robinson, B.A. (2003), Criminalizing Same-Sex Behavior, [On-line], URL: http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_laws1.htm.
Sodomy Laws in the United States (2003), [On-line], URL: http://www.sodomylaws.org/usa/usa.htm.
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My point is, do not apply the same standards that you apply to religious texts to the words of the Founding Fathers. They got much of it right, probably most of it. But they weren’t 100% right on absolutely everything.
The rapidity with which homosexual activists continue successfully to bully the nation to normalize what once was universally considered abnormal is astonishing.
No its not.
Most Americans have become cowards.
They will no longer stand up for what they believe in.
20 years ago it would have been inconcievable for a Socialist like Obama to become President. Americans have lost their soul. We are just a shell of what our fore fathers were...
HEGELIAN DIALECTICS HAS BEEN EMPLOYED BY EDUCATORS in America since the 1920s to move the educational system from the old concept of moral absolutism and submission to a higher authority to the new philosophy of relativism and constant change. The collective moulding begins early in life, sustained and refined throughout ones formal education; a universal curriculum of manipulation can transform and achieve a complete paradigm shift for a whole generation (Terry Melanson).
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This is a great post. I have had friends, in-laws, and co-workers who were homosexual. I would not like to see them tortured or imprisoned, any more than someone who was bipolar or had another mental illness (unless of course, as you said, they engage in criminal behavior because of it.) I consider it a form of mental illness.
Would you mind explaining that one to me?
Let me qualify that. I understand the difference per se. One is A, the other is B.
Explain this fundamental difference to me- I don't want to read too much into that one post.
They are like children, who always want something more, and will push and push till they get it. When the final result is no, instead of realizing the parent may not have the money, or the item would put them in danger, or any number of real reasons they cannot have what they want, they scream YOU HATE ME!!
Another word for fundamental is basic and I believe I explained the basic difference clearly. There is no comparison between involuntary servitude of Africans in Colonial America/Early America and the moral decay we find ourselves in today regarding homosexuality...degenerate people shamelessly demanding acceptance of their preferred sexual perversion. Only weak-minded people can be shamed and made to feel guilty...thus capitulating.
I remember a 48 Hours story on a 12 year old boy...he shot his grandparents at close range with a shotgun...burnt down the house with a slow burn using candles...stole their vehicle and claimed a black man kidnapped him. His lawyers and family said the anti-depressant made him do it. We need to be careful about just excusing sin by calling it mentally ill.
Ok. I guess what I wanted for you to do is say which one is worse.
Homosexuality or slavery?
And like I said, I don’t want to read into your post. The answer to that one wasn’t clear to me or I wouldn’t have asked.
Was the American Founding Unjust? (The Case of Slavery) Part 1 of 2
In the infamous Dred Scott case in 1857, the Supreme Court declared that blacks had never been citizens in the United States. In fact, free blacks were not only citizens but voted in most Northern states and in Virginia, North Carolina, and South Carolina. In New Jersey, women, including black women, had the right to vote for 30 years after 1776
1) http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a377e2d151100.htm
2) http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a377e2f80122d.htm
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great post!
More history and truth that is scorned and censored by the Big Government, Far Left, Public School Tsars.
That is, how often the lying closet leftists on Free Republic will post opposition to a thread like this one by quoting and linking to a site of the far left, such as the Southern Poverty Law Center, or the ACLU, or Norman Lears sham organization, PAW.
This will usually be triggered by any facts that do not line up with liberal revisionist history as shaped by those who fight against our vital and essential conservative Judeo/Christian foundation.
Can you really pick and choose from Leviticus? Further wisdom from Leviticus:
“If a man lies with a woman during her sickness and uncovers her nakedness, he has discovered her flow, and she has uncovered the flow of her blood. Both of them shall be cut off from her people.” (Leviticus 20:18)
“Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property.” (Leviticus 25:44-45)
“Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard.” (Leviticus 19:27)
“...and the swine, though it divides the hoof, having cloven hooves, yet does not chew the cud, is unclean to you.” (Leviticus 11:7)
“...do not plant your field with two kinds of seed. Do not wear material woven of two kinds of material.” (Leviticus 19:19)
“But all in the seas or in the rivers that do not have fins and scales, all that move in the water or any living thing which is in the water, they are an abomination to you.” (Leviticus 11:10)
Are your clothes holy, or a cotton mix ? Pity about all those sinners at the Red Lobster though.
Or those of us alive better than 50 years ago now cannot believe that smokers are looked upon like lepers, junk science would push a scam called Global Warming that will kill our energy economy, the Congress would actually be considering a bill to do away with the secret ballot, elected officials under the guise of the Democrat Party openly score our national heritage, making laws forcing banks to make unsound loans to people than cannot repay them, then blame the lenders as greedy when the mortgages hit the fans, bowing down to the religion of Islam while trashing a beauty queer for her Christian views on marriage and finally the President of these United States refuses to provide a birth certificate while acting as if those exercising their free speech at the Tea Parties are like the Jews in Nazi Germany, something not worth any note or importance.
Remember, Hitler was not a citizen of Germany when elected Chancellor of Germany in 1933.
Yes, my sixth decade will not be enjoyable as I expect our fearless Democrats Leaders to invite the Muslim Terrorists to nuke us at their leisure.
God may forgive these traitorous SOBs, I will not. May the burn in hell!
Gee. Murder and robbery were illegal then, too. Should we legalize them, too? (Just a reasonable response to such nonsense to get them to admit that some of the things which were illegal should stay that way.)
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