Posted on 05/05/2009 5:48:09 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
There you are! Simple and absolutely correct!
Take a chill pill
Gee are you there watching every Tom Dick and Harry walk through the door.
Some do this because they are enthusiastic supporter with him who knows?
Some MIGHT even be borderline xers who just want to get a rise out of other members ....
This is real people they do all kinds of things the Lord knows who is walking the walk and those who mock the walk!
Trust the Lord it will all get sorted out someday!:)
So you are saying if I can identify the nutjobs that”baptized” my great grandfather, I can have them excommunicated? Way cool. Can you point me to how to identify them and the steps to take to? Thanks.
Rag on the LDS all you but get you facts straight I really don’t believe Free ThinkerNY is LDS he justs is having fun at the expence of the LDS!
Mormonism is a fraud religion cooked up by a con artist. In that case, what a few idiots in a temple pray too is totally and completely meaningless and has no effect on you or your ancestors.
That. It also bugs me that they come onto FR and post thier proselytizing garbage, not in the religion section, but in news and activism, all the while stating that religious dialogue is not allowed by the mods.
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Free ThinkerNY are you LDS/Mormon?
I suspect if they had, and it was made public, the reaction would be...interesting. in the extreme.
If they are devout there is a very good chance they have had baptism on behalf of your non-Mormon ancestors. This is a prime reason why the church is so active in genealogy.
“Mormons” don’t do this “all the time”. It is against the church rules, and whoever did it will be ex-commincated, so don’t say slanderous crap like that.”
Is that why all my dead ancestors that are listed on the Family site have been “baptized”???? They weren’t then and never were Mormon.
In fact, I have a ggg grandfather that has been sealed by someone???????? That means when the person sealing gets his own planet to rule, they will take this grandfather with them. hahahahahahahahaha.
I am not Morman either, nor want to be. Don't believe to much you find in LDS geneology as reported by one of their members, since they all have to do their geneology, I have found false reporting. Oh well, they just want to get the job done no matter if true. Who's to know???? lol
Oh yes, seeing as how you're an expert with access to all the LDS ordinance data and all.
PFfffft.
Your opinion means precisely ZIP.
Father: UNKNOWN
That would be really embarrassing on a real birth certificate.
Actually, work for the dead has gone on for Centuries and Mormons don’t have an exclusive here. Dahn Yoga Centers, which follow a form of Taejonggyo, offer enlightenment ceremonies for family members who have passed away to this day. A descendant of a deceased Family member can make certain that a person who has passed away reaches enlightenment.
Buddhists bring food and candles to Monks to ensure goodwill for the spirit of a dead ancestor.
Catholics and other Christian Groups have “All Souls Day” in November each year. This is based on the doctrine that the souls of the deceased faithful who have not been cleansed from sins, or have not fully atoned for their sins, cannot attain all that awaits them in heaven without their help. That is why their descendants pray and sacrifice for them.
Baptizing a deceased family member by a Mormon is no different than burning candles for the dead by someone of a different religion. It is a practice of hope and honor.
I claim no expertise in Mormon ordinance data. None. But I am a genealogist and know my GGrandfather wasn’t a mormon.How then did he get “baptized” and how do we get whoever did it identified and excommunicated?
OK, without going any further than this, and if I accept everything you wrote as true, how does that equal "Mormons do this all the time"?
One case of which you are aware equals "all the time"?
Freeplancer, Mormons do indeed “do this all time”, and I challenge to you show any evidence that ANY Mormon has ever been excommunicated for baptizing anybody.
Personally, I think people should stop whining about it and the LDS Church should stop apologizing for practicing their religious beliefs. This is no different than any Christian praying that some particular non-Christian will become a Christian. It would usually be offensive to the non-Christian if s/he were (or is) aware of it, but tough luck — we DO have freedom of religion in this country.
” ... I ... know my GGrandfather wasn’t a mormon. How then did he get “baptized” and how do we get whoever did it identified and excommunicated?’
Want to extract a little revenge, do you?
Well as I mentioned I’m a genealogist. If you read the genealogy threads in other forums, you would see and understand the complaints from others. Judging by the comments there, yes indeed... “Mormons do this all the time”
Nobody gets excommunicated for baptizing anybody. And it would be extremely rare for anyone who WAS a Mormon to be baptized by proxy. If they’d been Mormon, they would have been baptized in the LDS Church while they were alive. The whole point is to baptize people who did not join the Church while they were alive, and thus did not get baptized into it. And the reality is that the vast majority of proxy baptisms nowadays are done by groups of high school and college students on “temple trips” with their local ward (congregation) or stake (a group of wards, similar to a diocese). Names which have previously been submitted for baptism are loaded onto a computer, with a screen next to the font. The kids hop in and out of the font rapid-fire, while the names of the dead people to be baptized flash briefly on the screen, just long enough for the presiding priest to mumble the standard baptism line. In these mass baptisms, neither the people being dunked, nor the priest presiding over the affair, has had anything to do with submitting or approving the names, or has the faintest idea who they were.
If they are members of the mormon church you can bet they have. That is why mormon’s are so into tracing their family lines - so they can baptize all their ancestors.
“One case of which you are aware equals “all the time”?”
It isn’t one case, it’s HUNDREDS. Remember the outcry some years ago about JEWS being posthumously baptized by the Mormon church?
Google it, you may find it, if they haven’t gotten rid of the evidence.
Yes, I do.
That's still not "all the time".
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