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Obama's prayer snub brings reproach
The Washington Times ^ | May 8, 2009 | Julia Duin

Posted on 05/08/2009 2:39:02 AM PDT by Scanian

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To: Past Your Eyes
Nothing more than a narcissistic, arrogant ignoramus convinced of his own “superiority”. People better start waking up...
21 posted on 05/08/2009 5:13:11 AM PDT by Common Sense 101
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To: Ulysse

Please do not be so ignorant as to ever put a label of Freemason on this President. Jerry Ford was the last Mason, and G.Washington the first.... Do some research.


22 posted on 05/08/2009 5:13:37 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: Ulysse

Ignoramus.


23 posted on 05/08/2009 5:38:13 AM PDT by Leg Olam (TOP SECRET! Os plan, 1 invade Poland 2 annex Sudetenland...)
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To: Lee Heggy123

You seem to be very well informed about who is a freemason and who is not...Anyway he could be a FREEMASON !
He talks the talk...And freemasons supported brother O. in Europe!
Multiculturalism/relativism is one of their main untold dogma...

Did i hit a nerve?


24 posted on 05/08/2009 7:06:17 AM PDT by Ulysse
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‘Did I hit a nerve?’

No and while I can’t say exactly who is or isn’t a Freemason without meeting them. I think I can perhaps give you a bit of my thoughts, (not all my own but in agreement) on multiculturalism as it pertains to Freemasonry.

I don’t think that we should treat multiculturalism as an unalloyed good, but we should also realize that our nation was founded on multiculturalism, in two important ways. First, the premise of federalism is precisely that multiple states, which the Framers envisioned as often having substantial differences in culture, should be able to retain their cultures — including, incidentally, the legal rules that flow from those cultures. (Within states, home rule by localities has had a similar, though lesser, mission.)

Second, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights contemplate a country with considerable range of religious views and even religious cultures. Many of the Founding-era American denominations were distinct cultural groups, such as Quakers, including groups that lived in relatively homogeneous enclaves.

These aren’t just multiculturalist values. They are foundational American values. And throughout American history, they have been (or at least could be) seen as serving at least several different goals.

Freemasonry is an organization of men based on the “fatherhood of God and the brotherhood of man,” using builders’ tools as symbols to teach basic moral truths generally accepted by persons of good will. Their motto is “morality in which all men agree, that is, to be good men and true.” It is religious in that a belief in a Supreme Being and in the immortality of the soul are the two prime requirements for membership, but it is nonsectarian in that no religious test is used.1 The purpose of Freemasonry is to enable men to meet in harmony, to promote friendship, and to be charitable. Its basic ideals are that all persons are the children of one God, that all persons are related to each other, and that the best way to worship God is to be of service to people. The thought of it being some evil conspiracy is promulgated mainly by those who have been denied membership or have a gullible ignorance of it.


25 posted on 05/08/2009 7:46:55 AM PDT by Leg Olam (TOP SECRET! Os plan, 1 invade Poland 2 annex Sudetenland...)
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To: Lee Heggy123

When you speak about “multiculturalism” it is on a personal/individual level of diversity of opinions.
On this level,in your view, all the societies would be multicultural and this is not the case.
On a more foundamental level of religion,science,art...which really constitute a culture with some moral values and hence a society with a constitution and laws.
In your quick(rough)statement on american “multiculturalism” you miss to remind that USA have ONE constitution and a COMMON HISTORICAL background and roots.

Many Freemasons in Europe,where i am leaving,are atheists or agnosticists or secularists,those who say they believe in “God” are speaking of an abstract,conceptual,”God”...
All this remains ,in my view,on the failed opinion that all cultures,all religions and hence all philosophies and all kind of behaviours are equals...

I think that this a completly false and dangerous idea and the rotten root of liberalism.

BTW in France Freemason have worked relentlessly to spread and promote new sexual behaviours with the trivialization of the pill even for teens,they worked for the trivialization of abortion(some prominent well known freemason founded the planned parenthood)and now gay marriage...Freemasons in Europe are strongly opposed to the mention of the christian roots in the european civilization...


26 posted on 05/08/2009 4:13:31 PM PDT by Ulysse
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