Posted on 05/09/2009 6:40:33 AM PDT by Delacon
Sorry, I'm NOT taking credit for illegals coming into this country. Nor will I be connected with an illegitimate government.
I have my own business and COULD hire plenty of illegals. I DON'T.
If you are saying that we should be pointing the finger a businesses and indiviguals that hire illegals, then I think you are preaching to the choir here for most of the people who are for stricter boarder control and enforcement of our immigration laws. The biggest dissenters are the libertarian anti E-verify crowd on FR.
Thanks for the ping. This is one of the most informative I have read.
I'll admit American consumers are in the dark when it comes to knowing where, how and by whom their products and produce come from but, I'm an not going to take a fall for unscrupulous employers.
Add this to the Straw man argument list.
Maybe Obama will apologize for it.
Thanks for the ping!
Enforce the law, as written, and strawmen by the score fall before the eyes.
We need no strawmen, we merely need to insist the existing law(s) be enforced; and, if they're not?
Those we pay who're responsible for enforcing the laws are held strictly accountable. [read: They're terminated and another's found who can *&* will do the job.]
Following is an article sent by NAFBPO this morning. It is a MUST read!
President of Costa Rica: United States not to blame for past, present or future ills confronting Latin America
Posted: 08 May 2009
La Prensa (Managua, Nicaragua) 5/7/09
(Full translation of speech by Oscar Arias, President of Costa Rica, at the Summit of the Americas meeting in Trinidad & Tobago on April 18, 2009)
“I have the impression that every time Caribbean and Latin American countries get together with the president of the United States of America it is to ask for things or to demand something. Almost always it’s to blame the United States for our past, present and future ills. I don’t believe that is at all just. We cannot forget that Latin America had universities before the United States created Harvard and William & Mary, which are the first universities of that country. We cannot forget that in this continent, as in the whole world, at least until 1750 all Americans were more or less the same: all were poor.
When the industrial revolution came about in England, other countries hopped on that wagon: Germany, France, the United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand…… and thus the Industrial Revolution passed over Latin America like a comet, and we didn’t realize it. Certainly, we lost the opportunity.
There’s also a very big difference. Reading the history of Latin America, compared with the history of the United States, one realizes that Latin America did not have a Spaniard John Winthrop, nor a Portuguese who might have come with a bible in hand, ready to build “a City on a Hill”, a city that would shine, as was the wish of the pilgrims who arrived in the United States.
Fifty years ago, Mexico was richer than Portugal. In 1950, a country such as Brazil had a higher per capita income than that of South Korea. Sixty years ago, Honduras had more riches per capita than Singapore, and today Singapore – in something like 35 or 40 years – is a country with $40,000 annual income per person. Well, we Latin Americans did something wrong.
What did we do wrong? I cannot list all the things we did wrong. To start, we have a seven-year schooling. That is the average length of schooling in Latin America and it’s not the case with the majority of Asian countries. It’s certainly not the case in countries such as the United States and Canada, with the best education in the world, similar to the Europeans’. For every 10 students who enter high school in Latin America, in some countries only one finishes. There are countries with an infant mortality of 50 children per thousand, when in the more advanced countries it is 8, 9 or 10. We have countries where the tax load is 12 percent of the gross national product, and it’s no one’s responsibility, except our own, that we don’t tax the richest people of our countries. No one is to blame for that, except we ourselves.
In 1950 each American citizen was four times richer than a Latin American citizen. Today, an American citizen is 10, 15 or 20 times richer than a Latin American. That is not the fault of the United States, it’s our fault.
The value system of the 20th century, which seems to be the one we are putting into practice in the 21st century, is a wrong value system. Because it cannot be that the rich world devotes 100 billion dollars to alleviate the poverty of 80 percent of the world’s population – in a planet that has 2.5 billion human beings with a $2 a day income – and that it spends 13 times more ($1,300,000,000,000) in weapons and soldiers.
It’s incredible that Latin America spends $50 billion in weapons and soldiers. I ask myself: who is our enemy? Our enemy, of that inequality which President Correa (of Ecuador) points out very correctly, is the lack of education; it is illiteracy; it’s that we don’t spend on the health of our people; that we don’t create the necessary infrastructure, the roads, the highways, the ports, the airports; it’s that we are not dedicating the necessary resources to stop the deterioration of the environment; it’s the lack of equality which we have, which really makes us ashamed; it is a product, among many things, of course, of the fact that we are not educating our sons and our daughters.
One goes to a Latin American university and it still seems we are in the sixties, seventies or eighties. It seems we forgot that something very important happened on November 9, 1989, when the Berlin Wall fell, and that the world changed. We have to accept that this is a different world, and about this I honestly believe that all thinking persons, all the economists, all the historians, almost agree that the 21st century is the century of the Asians, not of the Latin Americans. And I, unfortunately, agree with them. Because while we keep arguing about the “isms” (which is better? capitalism, socialism, communism, liberalism, neo-liberalism, social-christianism…) the Asians found a very realistic “ism” for the 21st and for the end of the 20th century, which is pragmatism. Just to mention an example, let us remember that when Deng Xiaoping visited Singapore and South Korea, after having realized that his own neighbors were quickly becoming richer, he returned to Peking and told the old comrades who had accompanied him on the Long March: “Well, the truth is, dear comrades, that I don’t care whether the cat is black or white, the only thing that matters to me is that it catch mice”. And if Mao would have been alive he would have died again when he said that “the truth is that becoming rich is glorious”. And while the Chinese do this, and from 79 until today they grow at some 11, 12 or 13 percent, and they have taken some 300 million out of poverty, we keep on arguing about ideologies which we should have buried a long time ago.
The good news is that Deng Xiaoping achieved this when he was 74 years old. Looking around, I don’t see (among the presidents who participated in the Summit) anyone who is close to 74 years of age. That’s why I ask you not to reach that age in order to make the changes which we have to make.”
It’s time Palin clarifies her position on Amnesty/illegal aliens. If she’s another open border Rino, we need to know it now.
A must read!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2247614/posts?page=26#26
“We are bringing in over 120,000 LEGAL FOREIGN WORKERS A MONTH right now in the middle of the highest unemployment rates in a quarter of a century.”
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Actually more like 138,000 ...
http://www.numbersusa.com/content/nusablog/beckr/december-5-2008/533000-jobs-lost-nov-but-feds-imported-another-140000-foreign-workers
No doubt doing work Americans can’t/won’t do. /sarc
Thanks for the info on Palin.
It is not a matter of taking credit. One problem is that we are not enforcing the existing laws. Why not?
I spoke to one of Palin’s big supporters at CPAC. I told him that Palin must move away from the McCain position on amnesty. If she doesn’t, then she will be finished as far as most conservatives are concerned. He agreed and said he was trying to arrange a trip for her to the border for a briefing.
“Why not?”
1. Our elected representatives have forsaken us. They are mostly all the same and are loyal to outside powers.
2. IMO, no use enforcing immigration laws when amnesty is right around the corner.
3. IMO, no use enforcing border security when eventually they’ll be none.
4. Time to take our country back before 2 and 3 happen!
Ping!
No, judges do. The Constitution granted citizenship to former slaves born in the US.
People born here AND subject to the laws. It does not include visitors, foreign embassy staff, etc. It should not include children born here to people here illegally (i.e. Not subject to our immigration laws.)
Great post AuntB.
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