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Talking Points (Thomas Sowell)
Jewish World Review ^ | May 12, 2009 | Thomas Sowell

Posted on 05/11/2009 8:22:34 PM PDT by jazusamo

One of the many signs of the degeneration of our times is how many serious, even life-and-death, issues are approached as talking points in a game of verbal fencing. Nothing illustrates this more than the fatuous, and even childish, controversy about "torturing" captured terrorists.

People's actions often make far more sense than their words. Most of the people who are talking lofty talk about how we mustn't descend to the level of our enemies would themselves behave very differently if presented with a comparable situation, instead of being presented with an opportunity to be morally one up with rhetoric.

What if it was your mother or your child who was tied up somewhere beside a ticking time bomb and you had captured a terrorist who knew where that was? Face it: What you would do to that terrorist to make him talk would make water-boarding look like a picnic.

You wouldn't care what the New York Times would say or what "world opinion" in the U.N. would say. You would save your loved one's life and tell those other people what they could do.

But if the United States behaves that way it is called "arrogance"-- even by American citizens. Indeed, even by the American president. There is a big difference between being ponderous and being serious. It is scary when the President of the United States is not being serious about matters of life and death, saying that there are "other ways" of getting information from terrorists.

Maybe this is a step up from the previous talking point that "torture" had not gotten any important information out of terrorists. Only after this had been shown to be a flat-out lie did Barack Obama shift his rhetoric to the lame assertion that unspecified "other ways" could have been used.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: obama; sowell; terrorism; terrorists; thomassowell; torture; tsbo

1 posted on 05/11/2009 8:22:34 PM PDT by jazusamo
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2 posted on 05/11/2009 8:23:58 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

He’s just a racist redneck!


3 posted on 05/11/2009 8:25:11 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (:)
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To: jazusamo
You wouldn't care what the New York Times would say or what "world opinion" in the U.N. would say. You would save your loved one's life and tell those other people what they could do.

Exactlly! God bless Thomas Sowell and his wisdom in the eye of of a hurricane of idiots.

4 posted on 05/11/2009 8:25:44 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (Had God not driven man from the Garden of Eden the Sierra Club surely would have.)
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To: jazusamo

Thomas Sowell 2010


5 posted on 05/11/2009 8:26:28 PM PDT by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: jazusamo

‘It is scary when the President of the United States is not being serious about matters of life and death, saying that there are “other ways” of getting information from terrorists.’

Again, it boils down to the question “who is better?”

Uhbama thinks THEY are better (anyone not American), as do all “liberals”.

We know WE are better, and thus are more deserving of life when the only choice is 1 or the other lives.


6 posted on 05/11/2009 8:29:04 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: jazusamo

Sowell knocks it out of the park again!!


7 posted on 05/11/2009 8:31:32 PM PDT by Pessimist
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Sowell - Williams, 2012
Blacks To The Future


8 posted on 05/11/2009 8:34:25 PM PDT by donaldo
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Yep, Obama and his leftist supporters are more worried about what the world will think about us instead of saving American lives.


9 posted on 05/11/2009 8:37:11 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Inyo-Mono
God bless Thomas Sowell and his wisdom in the eye of of a hurricane of idiots.

Amen to that!

10 posted on 05/11/2009 8:38:18 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Thanks for the ping jaz.

Idiots all. Dems, Libs, Socialists, and RINO’s. We should be complaining of torture as we have to listen to them.

They don’t come with an off switch. There oughtta be a law.


11 posted on 05/11/2009 8:53:06 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...Call 'em What you Will, They ALL have Fairies Living In Their Trees.)
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To: rockinqsranch

It blows me away that Obama doesn’t take his most important responsibility seriously, that of protecting our nation.


12 posted on 05/11/2009 9:04:37 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
One of the many signs of the degeneration of our times is how many serious, even life-and-death, issues are approached as talking points in a game of verbal fencing...and the latest thrust-parry in this torture farce seems to be the idea that, well yes maybe we did get valuable information from terrorists through "torture" like waterboarding, but there's not proof we couldn't have gotten the same information through other less awful methods. As though having a chat along with some tea and cookies would have persuaded these thugs, out to kill as many of us possible, that the US really is their friend and that they should betray their plans and colleagues for that friendship - preposterous.....
13 posted on 05/11/2009 9:05:41 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Intolerant in NJ

Preposterous is a great word for it, they’d rather die than rat out their fellow terrorists but it seems waterboarding breaks them.


14 posted on 05/11/2009 9:13:59 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: All

Thomas Sowell for King. Man that he is, he would refuse the job.


15 posted on 05/11/2009 9:37:23 PM PDT by Uhaul (Time to water the tree of liberty...)
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To: jazusamo

The left despises this man because he is a black man who tells it like it is and not like they want it to be. Also, they can’t call him a racist and that has them grinding their teeth.


16 posted on 05/11/2009 10:20:16 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Quick justice for the senseless killing of Marine Lance Cpl. Robert Crutchfield.)
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To: jazusamo
>"It is scary when the President of the United States is not being serious about matters of life and death,"

"For the first time in my life...."

Thank You Satan 1:50

17 posted on 05/12/2009 1:32:27 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (<P><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajsov1M4h50"> Thank You Satan 1:50</a>)
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To: jazusamo
The left has long confused physical parallels with moral parallels. But when a criminal shoots at a policeman and the policeman shoots back, physical equivalence is not moral equivalence
Sowell is always good for a keeper or two . . .

18 posted on 05/12/2009 3:55:06 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The conceit of journalistic objectivity is profoundly subversive of democratic principle.)
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To: jazusamo
Obama and his leftist supporters are more worried about what the world will think about us instead of saving American lives.

Agreed...and exactly who is "the world" anyway?

19 posted on 05/12/2009 3:57:37 AM PDT by NewLand (What does 0bama know and when did he know it?)
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To: jazusamo

BUMP for later fix. ;)


20 posted on 05/12/2009 5:33:20 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin ("Just give it to me straight; I'll make up my own mind." - Dana Perino's Dad)
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To: Winstons Julia
He’s just a racist redneck!

Thomas Sowell is not a racist, redneck or not. It is clear the nation would benefit greatly if there were more just like him and particularly beneficial if elected to Congress.

Your representative owes you, not his industry only, but his judgment; and he betrays instead of serving you if he sacrifices it to your opinion. Edmund Burke

21 posted on 05/12/2009 7:11:53 AM PDT by MosesKnows (Love many, Trust few, and always paddle your own canoe)
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To: MosesKnows

“Your representative owes you, not his industry only, but his judgment; and he betrays instead of serving you if he sacrifices it to your opinion.”

Quoted by Dr. Lymon Hall in “1776”.

A most excellent quote. Too bad we don’t have any such statesmen now; just politicos.


22 posted on 05/12/2009 7:24:50 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: jazusamo

Thanks for the ping. Sadly, I think a lot of liberals would let the terrorists tie up their wives bomb or no bomb. Can’t offend the terrorists.


23 posted on 05/12/2009 9:14:18 AM PDT by bluerose (PALIN For President)
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To: MosesKnows

Ok, I suppose that I needed to say I was joking. We all got called racist rednecks by Jeaneane Garofalo.

I was referring to that. I love Thomas Sowell.


24 posted on 05/12/2009 12:34:07 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (:)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
Too bad we don’t have any such statesmen now

"A politician thinks of the next election. A statesman of the next generation." James Freeman Clarke

25 posted on 05/12/2009 12:46:30 PM PDT by MosesKnows (Love many, Trust few, and always paddle your own canoe)
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To: jazusamo

“When historians of the future look back on our era, what will they think of our time? Our media too squeamish to call murderous and sadistic terrorists anything worse than ‘militants’ or ‘insurgents’? Our president going abroad to denigrate the country that elected him, pandering to feckless allies and outright enemies, and literally bowing to a foreign tyrant ruling a country from which most of the 9/11 terrorists came?”

I love Dr. Sowell. He voices so many things that concern me about our ‘Communist in Chief’.


26 posted on 05/12/2009 5:32:07 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin ("Just give it to me straight; I'll make up my own mind." - Dana Perino's Dad)
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To: jazusamo

You just got to love this man. He says aloud what most are to PC to say these days. I wish that more would step up to the plate.


27 posted on 05/12/2009 9:55:30 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Irish Eyes

Absolutely! We need many many more just like Dr. Sowell.


28 posted on 05/13/2009 8:52:38 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Irish Eyes

Amen to that, and I might add that he always says it so clearly. What a contrast to typical jargon laden professors, whose verbal contortions reflect their muddled thinking processes.


29 posted on 05/14/2009 1:08:30 AM PDT by SupplySider
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