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Neighbors Use Food Stamps. Not Costco
New York Times ^ | May 12, 2009 | Jim Dwyer

Posted on 05/12/2009 6:39:12 PM PDT by reaganaut1

This October, when Costco, the big warehouse chain, opens its first Manhattan store, it will occupy a brand new mall along the East River Drive at 116th Street that has been developed with $55 million in tax-free bonds and grants. The company will be eligible for millions of dollars in tax credits for creating new jobs.

But there’s one kind of government money Costco won’t take: food stamps.

That policy effectively cuts off more than 30,000 of its immediate neighbors in East Harlem, who receive food stamps. Throughout the city, 1.4 million people got them in April, an increase of 80 percent since 2002, city officials said. Most of the recipients have jobs, but their wages are so low that they qualify for the food stamps, now issued in the form of debit cards.

Even if those neighbors don’t get to shop at the store and take advantage of bulk food purchases, they will have plenty of chances to see — and hear — a critical part of the company’s warehouse operations: Costco just won special permission for its tractor-trailers to drive on residential streets in East Harlem between midnight and 5 a.m. to make deliveries.

“You’re moving to a neighborhood with thousands of people on food stamps, and you don’t accept food stamps, and you want to drive on their streets all night to deliver something they can’t buy?” said Viveca Diaz, an East Harlem resident who has objected to the delivery schedule.

So far, executives of Costco have made no public statements about why its stores — with the exception of one in Puerto Rico — will not take food stamps. They did not reply to four requests for comment. Many other big chains, including Wal-Mart, Whole Foods, B.J.’s and Sam’s Club, do take them.

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What the Times thinks is a big problem -- a store that doesn't take food stamps. It could be that Costco does not want lots of food stamp recipients in their stores, though they dare not say it.
1 posted on 05/12/2009 6:39:12 PM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

Plus if you are a careful shopper like me you can’t save any money at Costco, or Sam’s Club.


2 posted on 05/12/2009 6:41:47 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: ansel12

EXACTLY....Costco is NOT a place for food stamp shopping....unless of course you abuse the food stamp program.


3 posted on 05/12/2009 6:43:10 PM PDT by goodnesswins (WE have a REPUBLIC.....IF we can KEEP IT!!!)
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To: cleveland gop

Food Stamp Ping


4 posted on 05/12/2009 6:44:29 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: reaganaut1

I’ve read that the average income of a Walamrt shopper is, say, 35k and the average income of a Costco shopper is about 70k.


5 posted on 05/12/2009 6:44:46 PM PDT by riri
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To: reaganaut1

This doesn’t surprise me. Costco supports leftist causes, so it makes sense it doesn’t want the riff-raff in their store. Notice the tone of the NY Times in agreement. That’s why liberals hate Wal-Mart because everyday people shop there and not the elites.


6 posted on 05/12/2009 6:46:04 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
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To: reaganaut1

you can’t get anything in there with food stamps probably....it’s geared to people who are buying for the long term not daily shopping


7 posted on 05/12/2009 6:46:19 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: Viveca Diaz

The streets belong to the taxpayers not the tax takers. No one wants to live next to the tracks.. good motivation for betterment.

Maybe the povs should put in an application at Costco if they need more cash.


8 posted on 05/12/2009 6:48:15 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: reaganaut1

East River Drive and 116th Street is pretty much Harlem.

I live in a leafy suburb and you see freeloaders (section 8) using welfare debit cards at high end grocery stores all the time, the kind where half the customers wouldn’t caught dead in Costco. Excuse me, did I call them freeloaders? I meant to say deadbeats.


9 posted on 05/12/2009 6:48:27 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (AGWT is very robust with respect to data. All observations confirm it at the 100% confidence level.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

No food stamps = a lot less shop lifting!


10 posted on 05/12/2009 6:49:45 PM PDT by WellyP
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To: reaganaut1

Er, I hear that the Costco store will soon be inundated with hundreds of “customers” who will fill their buggies with perishable food and take it to the checkout counters where they will go through checkout loading all the stuff in bags and when presented with the sum to pay, they will offer food stamps. Of course when told that Costco doesn’t accept food stamps, they will simply walk off leaving the stuff where it lays, requiring several staff to put the stuff back in the shelves and cabinets. Al Sharpton will lead this buying spree.


11 posted on 05/12/2009 6:49:55 PM PDT by ArtyFO (I love to smoke cigars when I adjust artillery fire at the moonbat loonery.)
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To: reaganaut1

We don’t have any Costcos around here so I didn’t know this. How nice it would be to have somewhere that you could stop on the 1st and not be over run with the Foodstamp crowd!


12 posted on 05/12/2009 6:50:25 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: goodnesswins
Costco is a place where povs can tank up on food samples keeping their dole warm and undisturbed pressed against their fat asses.

13 posted on 05/12/2009 6:51:48 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

The new terminology is underhoused, non-employment-seeking fermented beverage consumers. Please make a note of it.


14 posted on 05/12/2009 6:54:29 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet ("The unarmed man is not just defenseless - he is also contemptible." Machiavelli)
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To: WellyP

When COSTCO starts running tractor-trailers through residential streets in the wee hours of the morning they may find a problem worse than shoplifting.


15 posted on 05/12/2009 6:54:42 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: ArtyFO
Good deal for Costco. Fiddy clams for a membership which is terminated after it's first use is likely more than than the cost of the food that will perish and be given to shelters as it would have anyway.

16 posted on 05/12/2009 6:56:06 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: reaganaut1

They don’t take checks either.

I like Costco. The one warehouse I shop at.
Their merchandise, esp. food, produce, meats are several cuts above Sam’s, BJ’s, etc Even better than the local Krogers.


17 posted on 05/12/2009 6:56:35 PM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: ArtyFO
“Er, I hear that the Costco store will soon be inundated with hundreds of “customers” who will fill their buggies with perishable food and take it to the checkout counters where they will go through checkout loading all the stuff in bags and when presented with the sum to pay, they will offer food stamps. Of course when told that Costco doesn’t accept food stamps, they will simply walk off leaving the stuff where it lays, requiring several staff to put the stuff back in the shelves and cabinets. Al Sharpton will lead this buying spree.”

Then he should be made to pay damages for what reason we are constantly cowered by 13% of the population I cannot fathom.

18 posted on 05/12/2009 6:56:39 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Osamabama Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: ArtyFO

You can’t get in without a Costco card


19 posted on 05/12/2009 6:57:03 PM PDT by JMS
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To: reaganaut1

1.4 million peeps in NYC on food stamps.
Un-freaking-believable and definitely Baraq’s fault.


20 posted on 05/12/2009 7:01:29 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: reaganaut1
and you want to drive on their streets all night to deliver something they can’t buy?”

Taxpayers Streets!

21 posted on 05/12/2009 7:03:27 PM PDT by MaxMax (America's population is 304-Million. Obama must punish America for the other 4.7 Billion)
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To: reaganaut1
Perhaps those that are on food stamps can go to work at Costco, so they can spend their own money there with impunity!
22 posted on 05/12/2009 7:05:54 PM PDT by GatorGirl (Proud Citizen of the Gator Nation)
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To: reaganaut1

Costco is a big dem supporter, I don’t spend my dollars their either.


23 posted on 05/12/2009 7:07:14 PM PDT by Randy Larsen ( BTW, If I offend you! Please let me know, I may want to offend you again!)
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To: reaganaut1
That policy effectively cuts off more than 30,000 of its immediate neighbors in East Harlem, who receive food stamps.

No one is shut out. They can pay cash like the rest of us.

24 posted on 05/12/2009 7:08:04 PM PDT by TankerKC (01/20/09 = 09/10/01)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

1.4 million in NYC get food stamps? Let me think. That’s about 20% of the city.....

And no NYT, don’t tell me most of them work. Fact is probably3 in 5 don’t work. 1 in 5 need it legitimately and the other 1 in 5 are low income elderly people.

I live in Cleveland the welfare capital of America and own a grocery store here. 36% of county residents get some kind of help that I pay for. The ones who walk in my front door with a card have been on the system longer than any supposed time limits. They drive late model cars/SUV’s pulling a boat around this time of year heading to the lake bragging they don’t HAVE to work. They’re also the ones standing in line when I go shopping at places like Walmart and Sam’s taking their sweet little time.....

As for Costco, HOORAY for not caving to lib insanity.

If Rudy were still mayor, no way in hell 1.4 million would be getting stamps, NO WAY!!!


25 posted on 05/12/2009 7:13:39 PM PDT by cleveland gop (LEBRON JAMES---2008-2009 NBA MVP!!! RIP Chuck Daly)
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To: nascarnation
1.4 million peeps in NYC on food stamps.

Let that sink in for a minute. Then think about Chicago, Atlanta, LA....

26 posted on 05/12/2009 7:16:08 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: reaganaut1

1.4 million take food stamps in NYC!!!

That’s 17% of the population that’s cant eat unless the government feeds them.

WOW!

NYC should be handed over to Somalia.


27 posted on 05/12/2009 7:16:59 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Because I am against Abortion - The DNC Controlled Fed Says I am terrorist.)
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To: NoLibZone

It’s the same, or higher here!!!

And Timmy Geitner wants to fix SS and MEDICARE?
He should worry more about WELFARE and MEDICAID??


28 posted on 05/12/2009 7:20:11 PM PDT by cleveland gop (LEBRON JAMES---2008-2009 NBA MVP!!! RIP Chuck Daly)
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To: reaganaut1

"Welcome to Costco....I love you."

29 posted on 05/12/2009 7:21:51 PM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: Lurker

1.4 million New Yorkers live and die at the whim of the FED.

If the government goes broke, NYC will be utter anarchy in 48 hours or less.


30 posted on 05/12/2009 7:22:16 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Because I am against Abortion - The DNC Controlled Fed Says I am terrorist.)
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To: reaganaut1
Costco just won special permission for its tractor-trailers to drive on residential streets in East Harlem between midnight and 5 a.m. to make deliveries.

You would prefer they were on the streets during rush hour maybe?

31 posted on 05/12/2009 7:22:25 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (When you're spinning round, things come undone. Welcome to Earth 3rd rock from the Sun!)
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To: reaganaut1
Costco needs to play this as
"We want to be good corporate citizens in this community. We won't accept food stamps so as to allow the existing local markets and bodegas to keep that portion of the local economy free from our competition".
32 posted on 05/12/2009 7:22:31 PM PDT by Obamageddon ("This will all end with show trials and piano wire")
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To: reaganaut1

you buy in bulk at costco.
Food stamps should be a short term cushion not a full time parasitical existence.


33 posted on 05/12/2009 7:24:29 PM PDT by hecht
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To: NoLibZone

bingo.


34 posted on 05/12/2009 7:33:04 PM PDT by RC one
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To: reaganaut1

Hey they can always get free food samples at Costco. Maybe the government could pay the annual membership fee for them.


35 posted on 05/12/2009 7:33:20 PM PDT by willk
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To: hecht

In my lifetime, welfare benefits have never, ever been a short term thing. It is the way people want to live who think they are better than those of us who think individual responsibility is pretty damn important.

In this city, there are so many lifers that walk through my front door everyday it makes me sick.....


36 posted on 05/12/2009 7:34:16 PM PDT by cleveland gop (LEBRON JAMES---2008-2009 NBA MVP!!! RIP Chuck Daly)
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To: muawiyah
When COSTCO starts running tractor-trailers through residential streets in the wee hours of the morning they may find a problem worse than shoplifting.

If they disturb the sleep of that scumbag Charlie Rangel, they're ok in my book, lol
37 posted on 05/12/2009 7:35:50 PM PDT by mkjessup (You're either with our Constitution, or you are with TKU ("The Kenyan Usurper"). CHOOSE!!!)
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To: goodnesswins

“EXACTLY....Costco is NOT a place for food stamp shopping....unless of course you abuse the food stamp program.”

Yep. I’m sure there’s someone in Harlem who would trade a carton of cigarettes for a gallon of olive oil.


38 posted on 05/12/2009 7:40:16 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: muawiyah
When COSTCO starts running tractor-trailers through residential streets in the wee hours of the morning they may find a problem worse than shoplifting.

We already have Fresh Direct making deliveries late at night with their rumbling trucks...then the guy clanks the boxes into the building by hand truck. Soooo noisy.
39 posted on 05/12/2009 7:45:31 PM PDT by Miss Didi ( "After all...tomorrow is another day." Scarlett O'Hara, Gone with the Wind)
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To: JMS

You can fill prescriptions as Costco without a card. Just flash your prescription at the door and tell them you want to use the pharmacy.

Costs are about 2/3rds or more less than regular drugstores.


40 posted on 05/12/2009 7:46:53 PM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: reaganaut1
oh the horror! Not to worry, obama will soon issue a directive that they must take food stamps. And that $35 “membership” fee that most people pay will be waived for the less fortunate. We can't have those evil rich people the only ones experiencing free food samples everyday!
41 posted on 05/12/2009 7:48:03 PM PDT by martinidon
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To: reaganaut1

Aw, c’mon. What so bad about Food-Stamp-Shoplifters...

...er Shoppers!


42 posted on 05/12/2009 7:50:35 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Typical "Rightwing Extremist")
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To: reaganaut1

I used to go to Sams club and it is ok, except all the employees look like they dread working there.

Costco is a totally different atmosphere; the employees look like they like working there.
And most of the customers speak English, which I find a good thing.


43 posted on 05/12/2009 7:50:45 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (I agree with Rick..)
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To: ArtyFO

You got to pay for a membership before they let you shop.


44 posted on 05/12/2009 7:52:48 PM PDT by packrat35 (You could make a fortune as a politician if you have the moral standards of a convicted pedophile)
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To: yldstrk

Costco was established to serve small business owners. Notice how many restaurants and “re-sellers” shop there. It was established to sell in bulk to “bulk” buyers. Hope they have good locks and security on those big delivery trucks. Driving through Harlem, they may be empty by the time they make it to the store. Remember during the L.A. riots, how stores were emptied out in minutes? I wouldn’t want to be a Costco driver in Harlem!


45 posted on 05/12/2009 7:52:54 PM PDT by holyscroller ( Without God, America is one nation under)
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To: NoLibZone
That’s 17% of the population that’s cant eat unless the government feeds them.

Don't forget straight-up NY state employees (yes that includes firemen and policemen), that's probably at least another 5%, some additional number of retired employees, and you're easily up to 25%.

46 posted on 05/12/2009 8:49:45 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll residents are either lying or insane)
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To: Cheetahcat
...for what reason we are constantly cowered by 13% of the population I cannot fathom.

It is, in fairness, only a portion of the 13% causing the problems; but the squeaky wheel gets the oil!

47 posted on 05/13/2009 12:11:33 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: jiggyboy
Don't forget straight-up NY state employees (yes that includes firemen and policemen), that's probably at least another 5%, some additional number of retired employees, and you're easily up to 25%.

Big diff, though; they EARN it!

48 posted on 05/13/2009 12:15:59 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: reaganaut1

The policy probably cuts down shoplifting enormously, thereby helping to keep prices low for the non-parasites who shop there.


49 posted on 05/13/2009 12:17:41 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: ArtyFO
Er, I hear that the Costco store will soon be inundated with hundreds of “customers” who will fill their buggies with perishable food and take it to the checkout counters where they will go through checkout loading all the stuff in bags and when presented with the sum to pay, they will offer food stamps. Of course when told that Costco doesn’t accept food stamps, they will simply walk off leaving the stuff where it lays, requiring several staff to put the stuff back in the shelves and cabinets. Al Sharpton will lead this buying spree.

Wow, are you serious? Can you provide a link?

50 posted on 05/13/2009 2:31:57 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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