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'Gay' Gene Claim Suddenly Vanishes
World Net Daily ^ | May 13, 2009 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 05/13/2009 7:07:43 AM PDT by conservativegramma

American Psychological Association revises statement on homosexuality

A publication from the American Psychological Association includes an admission that there is no "gay" gene, according to a doctor who has written about the issue on the website of National Association for Research & Therapy of Homosexuality.

A. Dean Byrd, the past president of NARTH, confirmed that the statement from the American Psychological Association came in a brochure that updates what the APA has advocated for years.

Specifically, in a brochure that first came out about 1998, the APA stated: "There is considerable recent evidence to suggest that biology, including genetic or inborn hormonal factors, play a significant role in a person's sexuality."

However, in the update: a brochure now called, "Answers to Your Questions for a Better Understanding of Sexual Orientation & Homosexuality," the APA's position changed.

The new statement says:

"There is no consensus among scientists about the exact reasons that an individual develops a heterosexual, bisexual, gay or lesbian orientation. Although much research has examined the possible genetic, hormonal, developmental, social, and cultural influences on sexual orientation, no findings have emerged that permit scientists to conclude that sexual orientation is determined by any particular factor or factors. Many think that nature and nurture both play complex roles. ..."

"Although there is no mention of the research that influenced this new position statement, it is clear that efforts to 'prove' that homosexuality is simply a biological fait accompli have failed," Byrd wrote. "The activist researchers themselves have reluctantly reached that conclusion. There is no gay gene. There is no simple biological pathway to homosexuality."

(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...


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KEYWORDS: apa; culturewar; gaygene; genetics; homosexualagenda; ifitfeelsgooddohim; junkscience; moralabsolutes; narth; pseudoscience; sexpositiveagenda
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To: longtermmemmory

Either born that way, or lifestyle choice, I’ll never be convinced it’s worth taxpayer dollars to investigate.

Activist judges almost always take the side of the percieved oppressed, the fact that the highest court in the land did not acknowledge the civil rights struggle of the past(aka true opression) in a Constitutional way, and then only now goes about thier way redfining the 14th, is an abuse of thier power, and an affront to the Constitution.

I say let those that wish to play games, play. But I belive that the American public wants this to be a states issue, and the Supreme court should stay out of it.


161 posted on 05/14/2009 12:57:14 AM PDT by ChetNavVet (Build It, and they won't come!)
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To: r9etb
Are you sure?

After decades of trying, they still haven't found a gay gene. All the scientific studies point to trivial genetic components and much more substantial environmental factors.

Ex-gays exist.

People like Charlene Cothran who ran Venus Magazine for lesbians left the lesbian lifestyle and now uses her magazine to help others leave the lesbian lifestyle.

Michael Glatze was co-founder of Young Gay American Magazine. He left the gay life and the magazine.

The People Can Change site has some helpful information, including their Root Causes, Homosexual Consequences article.

In Their Own Words: Gay Activists Speak About Science, Morality, Philosophy: The Innate-Immutable Argument Finds No Basis in Science

Dr. Robert L. Spitzer played a pivotal role in the 1973 decision by the APA to declassify homosexuality as a mental disorder. Spitzer used to believe homosexuals couldn't change but after studying the results of therapy he now believes homosexuals can change: Spitzer Study Published: Evidence Found for Effectiveness of Reorientation Therapy.

And one place to find a huge list of articles: Homosexual Agenda: Categorical Index of Links.

For reasons of their own, some people prefer to remain ignorant of the science of homosexuality. To understand the complicated issues of sexuality, an educated opinion can be formed after reading the information at the above links.

162 posted on 05/14/2009 7:31:57 AM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: scripter

Thanks.


163 posted on 05/14/2009 8:19:16 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: conservativegramma
Interesting comments:

Regarding change and the right to treatment, lesbian activist Camille Paglia offered the following observations:

"Homosexuality is not 'normal.' On the contrary it is a challenge to the norm...Nature exists whether academics like it or not. And in nature, procreation is the single relentless rule. That is the norm. Our sexual bodies were designed for reproduction...No one is born gay. The idea is ridiculous...homosexuality is an adaptation, not an inborn trait.....

"Is the gay identity so fragile that it cannot bear the thought that some people may not wish to be gay? Sexuality is highly fluid, and reversals are theoretically possible. However, habit is refractory, once the sensory pathways have been blazed and deepened by repetition-a phenomenon obvious in the struggle with obesity, smoking, alcoholism or drug addiction....helping gays to learn to function heterosexually, if they wish, is a perfectly worthy aim.

"We should be honest enough to consider whether homosexuality may not indeed be a pause a the prepubescent stage where children anxiously band together by gender....current gay cant insists that homosexuality is 'not a choice,' that no one would choose to be gay in a homophobic society. But there is an element of choice in all behavior, sexual or otherwise. It takes an effort to deal with the opposite sex; it is safer with your own kind. The issue is one of challenge versus comfort."

Source Paglia, C., Vamps and tramps. New York: Vintage Books. 1994, pp. 70, 72, 76, 77, 78, 91

164 posted on 05/14/2009 10:01:18 AM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: scripter

Now that really is interesting...........

Thanks!


165 posted on 05/14/2009 10:13:54 AM PDT by conservativegramma ((No taxation without constitutional representation!))
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To: scripter

Ms Paglia is a Leftie I can respect, not that I agree with her views, but she always calls on the Left to acknowledge reality and admit their behavior is what it is instead of lying about it.


166 posted on 05/14/2009 10:29:57 AM PDT by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.... Obama even worse than Carter.)
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To: conservativegramma
You are quite welcome. The information at the source should be read by everybody. It's a little long but well worth the read as it provides a summary of the scientific evidence on homosexuality... from gay activists.
167 posted on 05/14/2009 10:30:37 AM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: gidget7

Most of what you said makes sense. But, why do you insist that they aren’t born this way? Please use logic and thought rather than a recitation of your religous books.


168 posted on 05/14/2009 3:10:15 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: scripter

I don’t know why your agenda is but you are saying that gays aren’t born that way because scientists have not identified a “gay gene”? I hope your logic is much deeper than this because that is really a pathetic example of logic.


169 posted on 05/14/2009 3:12:02 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
Babies are born asexual. They have no idea about sex. It is learned, modeled as they grow. Sorry but between scriptor, me and others, you have been given several different examples, put them together. There is no simple one reason for any behavior people engage in. But one thing is very clear, you are not born to engage in any behavior, no matter what that behavior is. EVERY behavior is a product of your own environment, factors that invade it, that influence it, and their affects on a growing child.
170 posted on 05/14/2009 3:35:48 PM PDT by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: gidget7
It is learned, modeled as they grow.

So you are saying that people learn to be attracted to the opposite sex? If this is what you are saying then we are through with our discussion because that's one of the most idiotic things I've read in a long, long time.

171 posted on 05/14/2009 3:46:22 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: gidget7
"EVERY behavior is a product of your own environment, factors that invade it, that influence it, and their affects on a growing child."

I hate to bring it up to you, but certain things, like eating and drinking and gasp: SEXUAL ATTRACTION are instinct and are not learned. It's hard to believe that you could be so foolish.

172 posted on 05/14/2009 3:48:34 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
Hahahaha No it isn't. BEHAVIOR is not innate, none of it. Normal attraction to the opposite sex, once puberty hits, is instinct yes. But abnormal behavior, whether sexual or not, is a perversion of the natural process.

You won't win any debates here. We deal in reality, not in ideology.Homosexuality is no more instinctive than vibrators, animal lust, having sex in public places, or anything else people may do to get a thrill.

If what you want is to promote “born that way”, you might want to try elsewhere. It doesn't make any sense to anyone who faces reality.

173 posted on 05/14/2009 3:59:12 PM PDT by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace

Ya think?? It was finished a while ago!


174 posted on 05/14/2009 4:00:36 PM PDT by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
Sigh.

Gays have been saying for decades they are born that way. Gays have been saying there is a gay gene. Science disagrees, vehemently. Even gay activists who are scientists disagree. I'll side with the scientists.

What's pathetic is your attempt to use misdirection.

If you're under the impression gays are born that way, then by all means, provide something in support of that thought. The thing is, I know you can't.

175 posted on 05/14/2009 4:41:11 PM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: scripter

If someone was born and then raised on an island with no human influence would they still have sexual urges? Upon meeting another person of the same sex and someone from the opposite sex for the very first time, what (who) would they do with the sexual urge?

A gay gene? They haven’t identified millions of genes yet. That they haven’t identified it yet doesn’t prove anything. Have they identified a gene that makes humans have an attraction to the opposite sex? Sigh is right.


176 posted on 05/14/2009 5:18:28 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: gidget7

Whatever you say bucko.


177 posted on 05/14/2009 5:19:44 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
You have all the talking points of somebody pushing the homosexual agenda. And you appear to be completely clueless in regards to biology. Biology most definitely supports opposite sex sexual relations.

Here's another for you:

Prominent research teams Byne and Parsons, and also Friedman and Downey, each concluded that there was no evidence to support a biologic theory, but rather that homosexuality could be best explained by an alternative model where "temperamental and personality traits interact with the familial and social milieu as the individual's sexuality emerges" (Byne and Parsons, 1993; Friedman and Downey, 1993).

178 posted on 05/14/2009 8:45:54 PM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
And, bucko, you might want to educate yourself, just a little: All About The Human Genome Project

"Homosexuality Is Not Hardwired," Concludes Dr. Francis S. Collins, Head Of The Human Genome Project

By all means keep typing — It's a huge detriment to your credibility.

179 posted on 05/14/2009 8:56:08 PM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: scripter

I’ve read most of what he said. Let me ask you this question: is normal heterosexual activity hard wired?


180 posted on 05/15/2009 12:46:55 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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