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President Barack Obama to relaunch military courts for al-Qaeda 9/11 plotters at Guantanamo Bay
Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | May 15, 2009

Posted on 05/15/2009 1:19:09 AM PDT by Schnucki

President Barack Obama has given permission for military trials to restart at Guantanamo Bay in an announcement that effectively repudiated one of his first decisions in office.

The White House attempted to forestall criticism from President Obama's liberal supporters by promising improved legal safeguards.

President Obama stopped military commissions, which were trying suspects in the September 11, 2001 attacks on America by al-Qaeda as soon as he took over from George W Bush. President Obama ordered a review of the procedures, declaring the system did not work. But he was careful not to rule out the use of a modified tribunal system in future.

The new legal framework, which will try the most prominent Al-Qaeda suspects now at the Guantanamo Bay war on terror camp in Cuba, would include restrictions on the use of hearsay evidence against detainees. The revisions would also reportedly ban evidence obtained through coercion, such as waterboarding and other enhanced CIA interrogation techniques.

Five detainees have been charged with playing a role in the September 11 attacks on New York and Washington, including the plot's self-proclaimed mastermind, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.

Republicans condemned the order to close Guantanamo Bay by late January next year, and Democrats have rejected a White House funding request to shutter the prison. Republican Senator Lindsey Graham applauded the decision to revamp the tribunals as a step toward strengthening policies that have been derided worldwide.

"I continue to believe it is in our own national security interests to separate ourselves from the past problems of Guantanamo," said Sen Graham. "I agree with the president and our military commanders that now is the time to start over and strengthen our detention policies. I applaud the president's actions today."

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Will there be sounds of rioting or crickets from the "progressives"?
1 posted on 05/15/2009 1:19:09 AM PDT by Schnucki
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To: Schnucki
This is going to be very amusing to watch, when the obamadrones realise the rhetoric spouted during his election campaign was just hot air!

The holes in the policy and personality of the US President and his team is shocking.

This whole facade is very amusing, but consequently, disturbing to see.
2 posted on 05/15/2009 1:42:40 AM PDT by bethybabes69
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To: Schnucki

“The new legal framework, which will try the most prominent Al-Qaeda suspects now at the Guantanamo Bay war on terror camp in Cuba, would include restrictions on the use of hearsay evidence against detainees. The revisions would also reportedly ban evidence obtained through coercion, such as waterboarding and other enhanced CIA interrogation techniques.”

This is rigged for acquittals, making this nothing but show. We might as well send them back to the battle field where they can be killed..


3 posted on 05/15/2009 1:45:41 AM PDT by Gator113 (Weak-coward-racist-white hating-lying-traitor= Surrender Monkey in Chief-B. Hussein Obama...)
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To: Schnucki

so basically obama is going forward with bush’s policy?


4 posted on 05/15/2009 2:02:39 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Schnucki
...Obama has given permission for military trials to restart at Guantanamo Bay...

LOLOLOLOLOL

5 posted on 05/15/2009 2:24:27 AM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: Schnucki
The Newer!

Friendlier!!

Obamanized Military Courts Tribunal!!!

coming to a Guantanamo Bay prison cell near you

[any resemblance to previous policies is entirely coincidental]
[and George Bush's fault]

6 posted on 05/15/2009 2:38:11 AM PDT by csense
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To: Schnucki
From his recent reversals, it appears the mighty 0 may finally be getting the education that he should have had before he took this job. In some of his classes he's improving his grades from F to D or even C.

Maybe it's starting to sink in that there are valid and logical reasons why the simplistic liberal assumptions that lead to so much handwringing by the rest of us violate rational thought processes. He does appear to be starting to see that some of Bush's foreign policies are the right ones to have at the current time, that campaign rhetoric to get elected may have been based on false conclusions and a failure to see the results if implemented.

My opinions of him are improving. You've got to give him credit for being willing to suffer the humiliation he's getting for reversing his positions on some of these key issues.

Now if he had a semblance of understanding of economics such that he could foresee the ramifications of his 'ready, fire, aim' approach in that arena, he might start to get passing grades in some of those areas. His recent conclusions that our national debt is unsustainable at the current level - much less the increased levels caused by some of his recent actions - may raise his economics 101 grade to an F+, but he's got a way to go to move it to a D or higher.

7 posted on 05/15/2009 2:41:37 AM PDT by Real Cynic No More (The only thing standing between us and complete victory over the evildoers is POLITICS!)
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The revisions would also reportedly ban evidence obtained through coercion, such as waterboarding and other enhanced CIA interrogation techniques.

Pffft....Go ahead

You don't waterboard someone for they did, but what is going to....

That pretty much makes this statement useless regarding the the charges against the detainees....

8 posted on 05/15/2009 2:50:06 AM PDT by csense
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To: Real Cynic No More
My opinions of him are improving.

It'd take a lot more than a handful of moderate gestures to get anything close to a positive opinion of this blatent fascist/socialist. He's destroying the economy. A few modest gyrations to the center can't undo trillions of dollars of debt that he's taken on in an effort to destroy our country financially.

9 posted on 05/15/2009 3:15:06 AM PDT by meyer (Obama is to the USA as Mugabe is to Zimbabwe.)
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To: Schnucki

Well well well.....


10 posted on 05/15/2009 3:22:05 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: meyer
What we see with Obama and other so-called 'leaders' - even my employer's managers - is a propensity to view from 10,000 feet and avoid getting into the weeds. And when you try to explain to them the ramifications, they say, "You're much too analytical and detail-oriented to get things done."

Well, it's necessary to understand what's in those weeds to be able to effectively lead.

And I said my perception of him is improving. I never said it was acceptable.

I'm starting to get just a very faint glimmer of hope.

But the pressure needs to stay on him.

11 posted on 05/15/2009 3:22:39 AM PDT by Real Cynic No More (The only thing standing between us and complete victory over the evildoers is POLITICS!)
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To: Real Cynic No More
I'd revert to a bit of cynicism here. No confessions, no evidence gleaned from interrogation, no hearsay from other terrorists or intelligence officers. Most intelligence is hearsay I'd guess. This is being setup to fail.

Also only some are to be tried under these tribunals. I would venture to guess the rest will be tried in US courts then freed with welfare benefits or not tried at all.

Listen to Holder tap dancing about the uighurs.

12 posted on 05/15/2009 3:25:19 AM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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To: GOP Poet

What asses these people are. No hope of an apology to to the Bush Administration, is there?


13 posted on 05/15/2009 3:26:54 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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To: Eagles6
Based on the disruption that's occurred in past on-shore trials, I'm of the opinion that Gitmo won't be closed after all, but that the mighty 0 will rescind his executive order to close it, or at least modify it.

One possibility is that the military trials will be expedited and those convicted will need the opportunity to appeal the decisions, requiring an extension of the timetable for closure indefinitely. Those found to be not guilty may even be released into the states anonymously, maybe a witsec program, to protect them from being targeted, under the excuse that they are innocent and as such the public has no business knowing about them - since they're 'innocent'.

We'll see.

14 posted on 05/15/2009 3:42:18 AM PDT by Real Cynic No More (The only thing standing between us and complete victory over the evildoers is POLITICS!)
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To: Eagles6
Based on the disruption that's occurred in past on-shore trials, I'm of the opinion that Gitmo won't be closed after all, but that the mighty 0 will rescind his executive order to close it, or at least modify it.

One possibility is that the military trials will be expedited and those convicted will need the opportunity to appeal the decisions, requiring an extension of the timetable for closure indefinitely. Those found to be not guilty may even be released into the states anonymously, maybe a witsec program, to protect them from being targeted, under the excuse that they are innocent and as such the public has no business knowing about them - since they're 'innocent'.

We'll see.

15 posted on 05/15/2009 3:44:13 AM PDT by Real Cynic No More (The only thing standing between us and complete victory over the evildoers is POLITICS!)
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To: bethybabes69

Nice way of saying that obamma lamma and his minions are full of crap.

So how’s things in the United Kingdom?
Where ya at?


16 posted on 05/15/2009 3:53:50 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (yEP,i)
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To: bethybabes69
...the rhetoric spouted during his election campaign was just hot air!

More than just the campaign. The Dems have been crying about this since the 2006 campaign season.

Hey look! Swine Flu!

17 posted on 05/15/2009 4:00:27 AM PDT by PogySailor (We're so screwed.....welcome to the American Oligarchy)
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To: Schnucki
Bush and Cheney become more and vindicated with each passing day and reality settling in on Unicorn-ville.

LLS

18 posted on 05/15/2009 4:22:47 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my President... NEVER!!!)
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To: Eagles6
I think you're reading too much into those amendments. As much as I can't stand the guy, I think he now realizes what dangerous people he's dealing with here, and him and his legacy will be responsible for anything they do. What, you don't think that his Military Advisors have informed him, as Commander in Chief, and in no uncertain terms, what viscous lunatics these people are?

It could be that these restrictions were strategically picked to offer the least amount of interference with the prosecution, while appearing to be significant to his loony base. Again, he gets to have both worlds...a recurring theme with this guy. Hey, if they get convicted, then by golly they were really guilty, and we did it while keeping our principles damm it!

He solves two problems at once, and gets a Pulitzer to boot.

19 posted on 05/15/2009 4:23:13 AM PDT by csense
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To: Real Cynic No More
He is playing a game and you are buying into it... wake up... I will NEVER have respect for that traitor of a commie muslim.

LLS

20 posted on 05/15/2009 4:24:46 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my President... NEVER!!!)
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