Skip to comments.UND's Fighting Sioux nickname headed for dustbin
Posted on 05/15/2009 9:50:04 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB
North Dakota's Board of Higher Education has agreed to drop the University of North Dakota's Fighting Sioux nickname and Indian head logo, a move intended to resolve a decades-long campus dispute about whether the name demeans American Indians.
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I was thinking the transgendered, transvestite lesbians.
As a diehard (die, being the operative prefix) Eagles fan, I hope one day that the Washington Redskins are forced to change their name. heh heh
Just stirring up the Friday pot.
What are they gonna call ‘em, the “Negotiating without Pre-conditions Lakota”?
Maybe it would be better if they changed the nickname to the Fighting Troopers and the school song to “Garry Owen”.
"Pacifistic Limp-wristed Surrendering Sioux-Wussies"
I mean, if "fighting" is so offensive, then the exact oppposite would be honorable, no?
If this keeps up the only thing we’re going to have to remember them by is alcoholism and gambling.
I hear they’re changing it to the UND Fork-Tongued Palefaces.
Yes, it’s clear that when you put the word ‘fighting’ in from of someone like ‘Fighting Irish,’ or the ‘Fighting Fifth’ or just about 1,000 other examples, mainly from warfare - man’s most traditionally popularly heroic endeavor - it’s intended to demean. Give me a break, but why fight it? Why not just change it to the ‘Fighting Anglo-Saxons,’ and just forget about the natives who would rather be ‘respected’ in obscurity than celebrated in popular culture.
Fightin’ Cthulhus. (Or, if copyright is an issue, the Fightin’ Old Ones.)
Do it, UND students. Do it.
“Why cheer for the lesser evil?”
/SDSU Jackrabbit here . . .
I guess I’m missing it. How is the term, “Fighting Sioux” offensive? Now, if they were named say, the “Sissy Sioux”, then I might understand it.
Ralph Engelsted will be back to haunt his arena.
as an American of Nordic decent, i say name them the “fighting vikings” in honor of my forefathers. if the redskins dont like the honor of a sports team, take it from them, the indians lost by the way. I call them sore lossers.
very disappointing. Has more to do with obsessed liberals than offended indians (as the Sioux Nations had actually endorsed the nickname...)
“As a diehard (die, being the operative prefix) Eagles fan, I hope one day that the Washington Redskins are forced to change their name. heh heh”
Having Cherokee ancestors, imho names like the Fighting Sioux (or Chiefs, Braves, or Warriors) are not insulting. Nor are teams named after tribes (like the FSU Seminoles.) They are part of American history and culture, and these names highlight POSITIVE aspects of native-Americans from the past.
Redskins IS insulting. That is the one indian team name that does need to be changed.
Let's go on and re-name everything with an Indian language root word. Let's de-legalize the tribes and tribal governments. Come on Liberals, why mess around. Marx was all for erasing the smaller peoples and replacing them with the great administrative nations.
There are three NCAA schools who play Div 1-A football and basketball; whose nicknames do not end in S, are not an animal and are not a color.
So now the politically correct debate about Indian nicknames for sports teams is back in the news.
Nobody ever talks about other allegedly insulting names.
Notre Dame Fighting Irish - are they implying Irishmen are violent?
San Diego Padres - deameaning to the Catholic Church, isn’t it?
Boston Celtics - another insult to people of Irish or Celtic origins
Pittsburgh Pirates - after the recent incident with Somali pirates, we’re all reminded that we’re honoring criminals with such a nickname.
Tampa Bay Buccaneers - same as Pittsburgh Pirates
Dallas Cowboys - demeaning to the ranchers and cowboys
Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim - an insult to religion and the concept of angels?????
Kansas City Royals, Sacramento Kings - an insult to royal families everywhere.
San Francisco Giants - an insult to those with the problem of large bodies?
Portland Trail Blazers - we can’t honor this harkening back to the Oregon Trail, because after all, under PC ideology, this entire continent was stolen from the indigenous peoples.
Milwaukee Brewers - we don’t want to encourage drinking and alcoholism. This name has got to go.
Texas Rangers - a nod to the law enforcement agency. But what with police brutality and all that, we can’t have such a team nickname.
Seattle Mariners - demeaning to sailors and the navy.
New England Patriots - too jingoistic. Who are we to claim patriotism as something honorable? We haven’t lived up to our highest ideals so we can’t have such a name. We have no right to call ourselves patriotic.
New York Jets - in the era of global warming, we can’t say anything that is favorable to jet planes.
Buffalo Bills - I understand that the real Buffalo Bill didn’t have a politically correct 21st century worldview. Out he goes.
I’m sure there are other offensive team names out there. You get the idea, there are many objections we can raise.
Don’t get me started on all the animal team names. When PETA weighs in , all of those will have to go also.
I always thought their name was the “Fighting Sue”, myself.
Perhaps an updated Indian name would be more fitting.
The Fighting Casinos - Everybody wears the Number 21.
The Crapshoots - Everybody wears the Number 7
The Fighting Slots - Might not work for the women's sports.
This stuff about team names demeaning Native Americans is politically-correct nonsense. It is actually a sign of respect and honor to have a sports team (or military unit) name itself for you. Native Americans named THEMSELVES after animals that fought or hunted well, e.g. eagles, wolves, bears, and so on (a practice adopted by, for example, the Philadelphia Eagles and Chicago Bears).
I have yet to hear Greek-Americans complain about the Michigan State Spartans, or Appalachian people complain about the U. West Virginia Mountaineers. Poland has a soccer team called the Husaria (named for the famous winged cavalry of the 17th century).
“Fighting Sioux” is, or should be, an honor to the Sioux people because it reminds people that the Sioux were once among the best mounted warriors on earth.
Note also that our Armed Forces name weapons for various Native Americans, e.g. Blackhawk helicopters, and I think there is a Cherokee weapon system as well.
Just you wait...you think the “Eagles” are going to get a free pass...:)
I am sure the “Patriots” cannot last much longer as a name either...can’t have THAT!
Until 1930, they were known as the “Flickertails” a type of ground squirrel.
There’s an intimidating mascot.
This will come in handy while making the Rush Limbaugh “Environmentalist Whacko” Football Picks.
for the record, words like "chief" and "fighting" etc are English words......
You forgot Vikings...
Having some Nordic blood in me and being the tall/blonde/blue-eyed warrior type, I am deeply offended.
Gosh I hate this PC crap!
When did everyone start getting offended by everything. Grow some thicker skin, people.
It's fairly safe to assume that not all of the Sioux want the name changed.
You’re probably the only other person on FR who recognizes Siouxsie Sioux...
The Custer Busters
How ‘bout the “Fightin’ Casinos” ?
If you read the article you would have seen that in a 2-1 vote the supposed offended individuals supported the use of the name. This is just PCism run amok as usual.
As I have always said, it is the whiney, wimpy liberal whites who throw a temper tantrum like a 2 year old over these things. Usually, the tribe(s) in question support keeping it (as noted above).
I actually think most Indians want more references to them, and afterall, Indian sports names honor the proud,strong, fighthing spirit of the Indians.....
Fightin’ Irish is one. Tulane Green Wave?
There were these protests some years ago at San Diego State University, where the nickname is Aztecs. And we heard how Aztecs is demeaning to Mexicans and the memory of Montezuma and all that. They took a vote of students and alumni, and 92% voted that they should keep the name. So the effort to force the name change at San Diego State died out. And they are the San Diego State Aztecs to this day.
Whoops... there should be their and I know better...
I’m tired of everyone assuming I’m a racist and had everything handed to me simply because I’m white.
I want the same rights as “first nations” or whatever they call themselves - starting with no longer being called “white”....
“Having Cherokee ancestors, imho names like the Fighting Sioux (or Chiefs, Braves, or Warriors) are not insulting. Nor are teams named after tribes (like the FSU Seminoles.) They are part of American history and culture, and these names highlight POSITIVE aspects of native-Americans from the past.”
I have a friend who is half Seminole and he told me that his family finds the term “Native American” very insulting. His family prefers “American Indian.”
The Felidae League has issued a protest against the Bengals and Lions as embarrassments to cats everywhere.