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Barack Obama speaks at Notre Dame, calls for 'fair-minded words' (Barf)
politico.com ^ | May 17, 2009 | CAROL E. LEE

Posted on 05/17/2009 12:23:52 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

SOUTH BEND, Ind.—President Barack Obama confronted the issue of abortion head on Sunday at Notre Dame, acknowledging that differences over the issue are largely irreconcilable but issuing a plea to those on both sides to tone down harsh rhetoric and search for “common ground” he believes is possible.

“I do not suggest that the debate surrounding abortion can or should go away,” Obama said. “No matter how much we may want to fudge it – indeed, while we know that the views of most Americans on the subject are complex and even contradictory – the fact is that at some level, the views of the two camps are irreconcilable,” he told graduates.

“Each side will continue to make its case to the public with passion and conviction. But surely we can do so without reducing those with differing views to caricature.”

Obama’s 20-minute commencement address marked his most direct remarks on abortion as president – and he delivered them at the nation’s flagship Catholic university, where his appearance sparked protests. But while he often drew on his personal experiences to make his points and highlight his respect for Catholicism, Obama never substantively addressed why he believes a woman has the right to abortion.

Still, it wasn’t long into his speech before Obama touched on the issue that has defined his commencement invitation. He asked in a rhetorical way – a constitutional law professor in him coming out - how people can adhere to principles and fight for what they believe in, “without demonizing those with just as strongly held convictions on the other side,” Obama said:

“Nowhere do these questions come up more powerfully than on the issue of abortion.”

Obama’s speech was all about the rhetoric.

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KEYWORDS: 2009commencements; abortionist; abortionistinchief; babykiller; barackobortion; bho44; bhoabortion; bhocommencements; catholic; fubo; notredame; prolife
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1 posted on 05/17/2009 12:23:52 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

This guy is scary sick.


2 posted on 05/17/2009 12:25:42 PM PDT by nhwingut ( Don't Blame Me. I Voted For Waterboarding...)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

May God forgive that evil bastard that ACORN vote fraud put into the White House.

Fair? How about this Hussein? Hey Hussein, do you understand THIS?

Warning VERY graphic: http://www.holylamb.com/images/02.jpg


3 posted on 05/17/2009 12:27:13 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Free ThinkerNY

MASSIVE BARF. When the President of ND spoke it sounded like both a Democrat convention as well as an Obama convention. I am ill. This whole thing disgusts me on multiple levels. Notre Dame and many of her graduates, their parents, faculty, and obviously their president all belong to just another liberal university no different than any others in America. Mother Mary, the use of the word Catholicism, God’s principles etc, and Jesus are just lies, deception, and hypocrisy. This day has clarified to me how completely wayward much of American Catholicism is. I am sick.


4 posted on 05/17/2009 12:27:47 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Free ThinkerNY
a constitutional law professor in him

Damn,I am tired of that lie.

5 posted on 05/17/2009 12:28:01 PM PDT by razorback-bert (We used to call them astronomical numbers. Now we should call them economical numbers.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

All I’ve heard as I’ve switched over from the ball game was “Right wing ideologues”.


6 posted on 05/17/2009 12:28:18 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
He asked in a rhetorical way...how people can adhere to principles and fight for what they believe in, “without demonizing those with just as strongly held convictions on the other side,” Obama said

The people on the "other side" HAVE NO CONVICTIONS.....

....That is where his argument falls apart.

Their belief is that there is nothing right or wrong. That is not conviction, it is liberal hog wash.

7 posted on 05/17/2009 12:28:41 PM PDT by SteamShovel (When hope trumps reality, there is no hope at all.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...
Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment
Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment

Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment

Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

8 posted on 05/17/2009 12:28:43 PM PDT by narses (http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
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To: nhwingut
Was he in an accident previously?

Looks to me like he has an issue with his downward head movement.

Either that or he is an above all elitist who craves personal power.

9 posted on 05/17/2009 12:29:12 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, Question everyone else)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

And to think that all this time the far left and Democrats had us believing that Bush was the most divisive president ever....oh, the irony.


10 posted on 05/17/2009 12:29:30 PM PDT by cranked
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To: Free ThinkerNY

He talks without saying anything, like Clinton did. Both are douche bags.


11 posted on 05/17/2009 12:29:46 PM PDT by FTJM
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To: Free ThinkerNY

marker


12 posted on 05/17/2009 12:29:58 PM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
How do you politely name someone a BABY KILLER?

I hope his kidneys fail. LOL.... That is soooooo funny!

Thank You Satan 1:50

13 posted on 05/17/2009 12:31:05 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (<P><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajsov1M4h50"> Thank You Satan 1:50</a>)
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To: razorback-bert

“a constitutional law professor in him
Damn,I am tired of that lie.”

You and me both ,He is nothing but a Filthy Communist.


14 posted on 05/17/2009 12:32:14 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Osamabama Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: BenLurkin

It is his record on abortion 100% in support of abortion as well as importing it world wide, but also his massive attack on the Godly on Christian religions with his many enactments of laws etc against the holy, and the religious, believers, and the Jewish people in Israel. The fact that this man was both given an honorary degree at Notre Dame as well as a platform for his deceptions and such support has shown how lost this country has become. Very sad. I am so happy many fought against this and will continue to.


15 posted on 05/17/2009 12:33:18 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: nhwingut

What is scary sick is that the vast majority at ND and Catholics in general support and love the guy. I want to puke.


16 posted on 05/17/2009 12:33:18 PM PDT by devane617 (Republicans first strategy should be taking over the MSM. Without it we are doomed.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

He asked in a rhetorical way – a constitutional law professor in him coming out - how people can adhere to principles and fight for what they believe in, “without demonizing those with just as strongly held convictions on the other side,” Obama said:”

And yet he laughs when Sykes jokes that she hopes that Limbaugh’s kidneys fail? And what about that hack on his staff that suggested that the Obummer’s name their dog “Ms. California”?


17 posted on 05/17/2009 12:34:04 PM PDT by VanDeKoik (Enemy of the state since 1978!)
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To: GOP Poet
Mr. Jenkins allowed the Queer Film Festival and The Vagina Monologues on campus; apparently, he is more interested in looking "fair-minded" than in being a man of God.
18 posted on 05/17/2009 12:34:42 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: GOP Poet

When the dean spoke of how Catholics support pro life issues, I noticed very few applauded. Most stayed seated behind him.


19 posted on 05/17/2009 12:34:50 PM PDT by devane617 (Republicans first strategy should be taking over the MSM. Without it we are doomed.)
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To: devane617

Yes. Me too. Continued prayers and actions where we are called. The path is narrow and I too am deeply saddened and sick.


20 posted on 05/17/2009 12:35:10 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Mark Warner was the Commencement speaker at my son’s graduation last Sunday. He said politics needs a return to civility, disagreement doesn’t indicate one is less patriotic.We should listen to each other and learn.
Funny when President Bush was in office dissent was patriotic now that Obama is president, disent is uncivil and mean spirited.
Who will point out the hypocrisy?


21 posted on 05/17/2009 12:36:43 PM PDT by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.... Obama even worse than Carter.)
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To: SteamShovel

“He asked in a rhetorical way...how people can adhere to principles and fight for what they believe in, “without demonizing those with just as strongly held convictions on the other side,” Obama said”

Take his speech and substitute the word abortion for slavery.

Evil is evil. Period.


22 posted on 05/17/2009 12:37:59 PM PDT by Owl558 ("Those who remember George Satayana are doomed to repeat him")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“...the views of most Americans are...complex and contradictory...” Say what? In other words, it is far too complicated an issue for the “little people” to properly comprehend.


23 posted on 05/17/2009 12:38:00 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: devane617

Yes. And a bit lukewarm on mention of other areas such as ‘the environment’ or whatever he said. Can you imagine attending this? It is like attending a Democratic convention and Obama support rally with deluded and deceptive use of religious and Christian believer jargon. It is a great delusion. A great deception. It is a travesty of Jesus and of God. It is the great work of evil. May some or maybe many in the audience get this. May their hearts be shown the truth and if not today in the coming days.


24 posted on 05/17/2009 12:38:26 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: devane617

>>What is scary sick is that the vast majority at ND and Catholics in general support and love the guy.<<

And let’s not forget the Protestants and Jewish faiths as well.


25 posted on 05/17/2009 12:38:30 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Common ground? Dead is dead, there isn’t any halfway point!


26 posted on 05/17/2009 12:41:06 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: kalee

It’s absolutley laughable to hear Democrats try to talk about civility or not “demonizing.” Their lack of class and professional is beyond question. Their constituencies are filled with hate, violence and immaturity beyond description.


27 posted on 05/17/2009 12:42:34 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: Free ThinkerNY

As if ‘political correctness’ is not enough? They want more? Of course, they do.


28 posted on 05/17/2009 12:43:06 PM PDT by cricket ('Don't bow for me . . Obama ' (America's 'sorry' President))
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“He asked in a rhetorical way – a constitutional law professor in him coming out - how people can adhere to principles and fight for what they believe in, “without demonizing those with just as strongly held convictions on the other side,” Obama said:”

If so, why did you allow pro-lifers to be termed domestic terrorists by DHS?


29 posted on 05/17/2009 12:43:24 PM PDT by OpusatFR (Those embryos are little humans in progress. Using them for profit is slavery.)
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To: kalee

The ND president also said something like just because people disagree with him Obama doesn’t quit talking with them. HA! We all remember when he told the national Republican legislatures, “I won.” How about the attacks on any national figure not matter if they are a private citizen or not that has challenged or even questioned his policies. That commencement to day was mass delusion and lies.


30 posted on 05/17/2009 12:43:33 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: GOP Poet
So how insane does it make you when Obama Spends TRILLIONS and then says we can spend to much. Or when he says he doesn't want to own car companies and then takes control of them. Or like today when he says everyone should not be ARROGANT when I have never seen a more Arrogant politician. Here he is saying people should disagree respectfully while he tells his competitors to bad I WON .The amazing giant gap between his rhetoric and realty would be funny if half of America wasn't so dumb they fell for it.
31 posted on 05/17/2009 12:44:39 PM PDT by Pacothecat
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To: nhwingut

And yes; ‘scary-sick’ is Obama in two words. Have not read all the posts; but am guessing that ‘TOTUS’ is leading him from somewhere. . .


32 posted on 05/17/2009 12:44:40 PM PDT by cricket ('Don't bow for me . . Obama ' (America's 'sorry' President))
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

When will dumbarses like the guy on Fox News now, stop trying to say Obama is a uniter and has the ability to bring us all together. He doesn’t and won’t ever earn my respect. He’s the most polarizing President in the history of the country and anything but a uniter.


33 posted on 05/17/2009 12:45:05 PM PDT by NoobRep
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To: Free ThinkerNY
“without demonizing those with just as strongly held convictions on the other side,”

This from Mr. Chicago Politics. What a laugh.

34 posted on 05/17/2009 12:46:19 PM PDT by TheWasteLand
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To: EGPWS
Was he in an accident previously? Looks to me like he has an issue with his downward head movement.

There is not downward head movement when looking down your nose at the rest of the world.

Does Obama Have Narcissistic Personality Disorder? (YouTube video explains Obama to a tee)

35 posted on 05/17/2009 12:46:45 PM PDT by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I watch that crowd. They gave him overwhelming support, just as the Catholic’s did in helping him into office.

Obama now owns the Catholic Church.


36 posted on 05/17/2009 12:47:28 PM PDT by Gator113 (Weak-coward-racist-white hating-lying-traitor= Surrender Monkey in Chief-B. Hussein Obama...)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
nobama's "speech" is the biggest buncha BS I've heard in a long time.

"common ground" - BS
"But surely we can do so without reducing those with differing views to caricature." - BS
"views of most Americans on the subject are complex and even contradictory" - BS

It's real simple: either you are for killing innocent babies or you aren't. Period. End of discussion. Common ground my ass. Ain't nothing "complex" or "contradictory" about it. Pun-> It's like being pregnant, you is or you ain't. No common ground there!

But in every situation, I try and find some good. So here's the good: the speech lasted only 20 minutes.

37 posted on 05/17/2009 12:47:37 PM PDT by upchuck (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The graduates are incredibly stupid and their parents paid for this “education.” Obama and the 2006 Dem Congress has screwed their future. There are no jobs. They all hope to get govt Obama thug drone jobs.

These kids are morons.


38 posted on 05/17/2009 12:47:38 PM PDT by Frantzie
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To: TheWasteLand

and who went down that road? theOne goes after individuals like rush limbaugh, and his honkies demonized him.......how can he stand there with a straight face and shovel this drivel?


39 posted on 05/17/2009 12:47:43 PM PDT by tioga
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Someone please explain to me how there can be compromise between deliberate murder and “THOU SHALT NOT MURDER!”


40 posted on 05/17/2009 12:49:35 PM PDT by MestaMachine (From Cogs to Castles...)
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To: nhwingut

Hitler would have been proud.


41 posted on 05/17/2009 12:49:43 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: GOP Poet

When the President of ND spoke it sounded like both a Democrat convention as well as an Obama convention.
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I thought it was a campaign speech for the next election. SICKENING!


42 posted on 05/17/2009 12:49:48 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
"Each side will continue to make its case to the public with passion and conviction. But surely we can do so without reducing those with differing views to caricature."

Still above his paygrade.

43 posted on 05/17/2009 12:50:24 PM PDT by uncommonsense (liberals see what they believe and conservatives believe what they see)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Hopefully They will never have babies since “The ONE” doesn’t want his “Girls” punished by becoming “Pregnant!”


44 posted on 05/17/2009 12:50:34 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (GOD BLESS AMERICA and Our Last Great President George W. Bush)
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To: Pacothecat

Boy you said it and covered this travesty so very well.


45 posted on 05/17/2009 12:53:47 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Frantzie

These kids are morons. America’s intellectuals are determined to destroy America, the West and everything the America stands for. They are doing the very thing which people like Marx and Lenin had hoped would happen. One of the key methods of destroying a society is to go after the youth. The youth are impressionable. Their minds are open, and they are looking for values.


46 posted on 05/17/2009 12:54:23 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

I almost wrote Senator Warner this past week to ask where was his condemnation of that Sykes woman and her hateful rant delivered the night before my son’s graduation? Or in the past of Michael Moore or the hatemongers who made the film of President Bush’s assassination?

I wonder if Sen Warner was at the dinner last Sat night?


47 posted on 05/17/2009 12:54:38 PM PDT by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.... Obama even worse than Carter.)
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To: narses; nhwingut; Free ThinkerNY
It was the usual appeal to moral relativism as the supposed higher ground. Then there was the very unfortune slur, the president's reference to "parochial" views. This is ALWAYS code for an anti-Catholic dig.

Jenkins' hysterial speech praising Obama was disgraceful. One of the most disgraceful and shameful moments in Catholic intellectual history and the postconciliar period. It's clear Jenkins' is an hysterical supporter of Obama and shameless liberal. This was absurd from the Stockholm Syndrome valedictorian to the hysterical cheering for Obama.

One moment of great irony: As Obama started his spin on relativism for abortion you could hear a baby crying in the audience on the Fox News feed.

48 posted on 05/17/2009 12:55:57 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: GOP Poet

Resident (Pres_ent) Barack Hussein Obama, Jr., or Barry Soetero, or Mr Michelle Robinson, or Sock-Puppet, has ALREADY stopped talking in any meaningful way with those who differ from his point of view - after all, he won, doncha see, and that proves the rightness and justice of his cause.

There is a power this current occupant of the Oval Office answers to. It just is not one the most of the rest of us would like to see in charge.


49 posted on 05/17/2009 12:56:33 PM PDT by alloysteel (When the chips are down - the buffalo is empty.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
"“common ground” he believes is possible"


50 posted on 05/17/2009 12:57:36 PM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out (click my name)
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