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Congressional BID FOR 145% BEER-TAX HIKE
NY Post ^ | May 21, 2009 | staff writer

Posted on 05/22/2009 6:48:44 AM PDT by yankeedame

BID FOR 145% BEER-TAX HIKE

WASHINGTON -- Drunk on power and dazed by ambition, members of Congress have stumbled upon a novel way to keep their spending binge rolling -- and leave American taxpayers with the hangover.

Under a Senate proposal, Congress would raise the federal excise tax on beer by 145 percent to more than $3 a case.

Uncle Sam also would snatch an additional $7 on a case of wine -- a staggering increase of 233 percent and an additional 20 percent on hard liquor sales.

"Buzz-kill doesn't even begin to describe this invasion," said a GOP congressional aide....

Sen. Max Baucus (D-Mont.) and Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) were quick to say they do not necessarily support the proposals they pitched. They were tossing them out there only as options for paying for President Obama's proposed massive government takeover of the health- care industry.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


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To: Nathan Zachary
Na. Beer is cheap in the USA. even if the price doubled it will still be cheap. When it gets up to $24 a 12 pack like Canada, (and it will with Obama)then start brewing your own.

Why wait? If done right, home brew could cost as little as 50 cents a 12-ounce bottle. Yes, there is the initial expense of the equipment, but you can get a Mr. Beer kit for under $45 if you wanted to try your hand at it.

61 posted on 05/22/2009 7:29:53 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Obama - what you get when you mix Affirmative Action with the Peter Principle.)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
but the promise was to not raise taxes on those making under $250k...

HA! Between raising the beer tax and 'cap and trade', no one will be able to afford to get lit.

62 posted on 05/22/2009 7:31:50 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Tar and feathers would not be far behind.


63 posted on 05/22/2009 7:31:59 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.)
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To: calex59
"Time to buy the brewing kit and get started on making my own. Not that hard and with some practice a pretty good beer can be made."

The longer you brew your own beer, the more expensive it becomes, especially when you start getting into pressurized carbonation beer on tap systems, and of course building the bar in your basement to go with it.

64 posted on 05/22/2009 7:33:39 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: yankeedame
Leave my rot gut vodka alone.

I'm never more than five electric lemonades away from planning the perfect rebellion. And then forgetting the whole thing the next day.
65 posted on 05/22/2009 7:35:43 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: skr
A black market might do very well, though.

All the excuse needed to expand the BATFE...

66 posted on 05/22/2009 7:37:24 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: yankeedame

at some point The One will make the mistake of picking on a corporate entity that proves to be his match. The combination of Coca-Cola/Pepsico/AnheuserBusch/CoorsMiller looks like a likely prospect.


67 posted on 05/22/2009 7:39:32 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: IYAS9YAS

Oh I’ve tried my hand at it for many years. I have beer making equipment piled up in the corner of my basement collecting dust. I have a 4 tap draft cooler system that allows me to sample 4 different brew styles.

I gave it up for a while. It became too time consuming and belly enlarging.

Every serious brewer will eventually get a tap system because you get sick of washing and capping bottles, plus it eliminates the yeast from the bottom of the bottle from naturally carbonating your bottled home brew.

Then your washing out tap lines and canisters, so it never ends, it just gets more complicated.


68 posted on 05/22/2009 7:42:04 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: yankeedame

And you (us) homebrewers thought the hop shortage was a pita!
But then the hop shortage was mostly caused by gubmint too (the ethanol thing).


69 posted on 05/22/2009 7:43:19 AM PDT by gunnyg
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To: yankeedame

Just one more way to kill business. Wine growers and producers (vineyards) are big business in this country. California wines are one of our exports to the world. Nothing these people do makes sense.


70 posted on 05/22/2009 7:46:26 AM PDT by khnyny ("The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.")
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To: yankeedame

71 posted on 05/22/2009 7:48:08 AM PDT by cmsgop ( " C'mon, Stand Up Chuck")
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To: gunnyg
"But then the hop shortage was mostly caused by gubmint too (the ethanol thing)."

B.S.

Ethanol has nothing to do with hop growing.

The hop shortage was caused by bad growing seasons in the UK and US.

72 posted on 05/22/2009 7:59:05 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary

“Ethanol has nothing to do with hop growing.”
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BS!


73 posted on 05/22/2009 8:00:42 AM PDT by gunnyg
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To: gunnyg

By all means, explain how ethanol production has anything to do with hops.


74 posted on 05/22/2009 8:03:12 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary

u r dismissed—take yer meds and disappear....


75 posted on 05/22/2009 8:04:26 AM PDT by gunnyg
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To: andy58-in-nh
The problem is, they will make home brewing illegal, calling it tax evasion. Under the guise of it causing a “HEALTH RISK” and an unnecessary burden to the Publik Health Care “system”.

They NEED revenue! Massive quantities of REVENUE!

76 posted on 05/22/2009 8:11:20 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Give me LIBERTY or give me an M-24A2!)
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To: yankeedame
Here it comes.

DOn't say smokers didn't tell you so.

It will happen.

77 posted on 05/22/2009 8:13:24 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: gunnyg
http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/0104biz-hops0104.html

"A global shortage of hops, combined with a run-up in barley prices, is sending a chill through Arizona's craft-beer industry.

Brewers are dealing with a 10 to 15 percent shortfall in the worldwide supply of hops, largely caused by farmers cutting back on the cropyields diminished by rain and drought.

Papazian attributed the barley prices to ethanol subsidies that have raised the price of corn, the main ingredient in the alternative fuel. As a result, farmers have switched to barley for livestock feed, which has pushed up prices.

The hops situation is more complex. Years of overproduction and low prices led farmers to replace hops fields with more profitable crops. Add to that corn subsidies that have caused farmers to replace hops fields with corn, a drought in Australia that affected yields and heavy rains in Europe that ruined much of this year's crop.

78 posted on 05/22/2009 8:18:45 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: gunnyg

I took mine. Perhaps you should take yours.


79 posted on 05/22/2009 8:19:38 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary
Land that was used to grow hops, has been converted into growing Ethanol crops. (Simple conclusion really.)

But then, if every single acre of agricultural land was converted into growing Ethanol, it would still only provide us with less than 30% of our demand for fuel.

Not to mention that it takes 1 gallon of fossil fuel to make and produce 1.2 gallons of Ethanol; Which yields a massive .2 gallon increase to the market. And in the interim, we starve, or learn how to eat dirt.

80 posted on 05/22/2009 8:22:57 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Give me LIBERTY or give me an M-24A2!)
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