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Jihad comes to the Bronx......... (acted independently ?YEAH RIGHT !!Heard that one before)
Intellectual Conservative ^ | May 22nd, 2009 | Fern Sidman

Posted on 05/22/2009 8:16:19 AM PDT by IrishMike

Is it possible that the Bronx Four operated alone, without any connection to foreign terrorists. In an elaborate sting operation, four African-American Muslim men were arrested Wednesday night in New York City for attempting to bomb two synagogues in the Bronx and for conspiring to shoot down military planes at an Air National Guard base in Newburgh, NY. James Cromitie, David Williams, Onta Williams and Laguerre Payen were friends who had met while serving time in prison and it was there that they converted to Islam.

The bombs in their possession were fake; supplied to them by an FBI informant who had been cooperating with authorities since 2002, when he pleaded guilty to taking part in an unrelated fraud scheme. The four men attended the Masjid al-Ikhlas mosque in Newburgh, New York, where they first met the informant. In April, Mr. Cromitie, 53, and the other men in their 20s and 30s, selected the Riverdale Temple, the Riverdale Jewish Center and the National Guard base as their targets. On May 6, they obtained the bogus surface to air missiles and explosive devices that they were to use in the attack from a Connecticut warehouse.

Eric Snyder, an assistant United States attorney, said at their arraignment, "It's hard to envision a more chilling plot. These are extremely violent men. These are men who eagerly embraced an opportunity to 'bring death to Jews.'" Addressing the fact that all four men were born in the United States, New York City Police Commissioner Ray Kelly said, "It speaks to our concern about homegrown terrorism." He added that, "They stated that they wanted to commit jihad. They were disturbed about what was happening in Afghanistan and Pakistan, that Muslims were being killed." He also said that the defendants also said that if Jews were killed in this attack that would be all right with them.

When queried as to whether the four men acted in concert or received support from any known terrorist organizations, Mr. Kelly said they acted alone.

In an article written for the Pajamas Media website that appeared on May 22 entitled, "Homegrown Islamic Jihad in the Bronx: Now We Are All Israelis," Dr. Phyllis Chesler, an emerita professor of psychology and women's studies at the City University of New York states:

Onta Williams of the Bronx Four is quoted as saying: "They (the United States military) are killing Muslim brothers and sisters in Muslim countries, so if we kill them here (in the United States) with IEDs (improved explosive devices) and Stingers, it is equal." James Cromitie, a.k.a. Abdul Rahman, stated that he was part of a Pakistani-based terror group and wanted to kill Jews and Americans. According to the New York Post, "Cromitie pointed to people walking on the street in the vicinity of a Jewish community center and said that if he had a gun, he would shoot each one in the head."

This raises some serious questions about Commissioner Kelly's assertion that these men acted independently, sans the backing from radical Islamic terrorist organizations.

This is certainly not the first time that the authorities have hastened to declare that terrorists were tantamount to common criminals. On the evening of November 5, 1990, the far reaching tentacles of global jihad ominously pervaded the United States, yet it would be many years to come before anyone made the connection. On that evening, Egyptian-born terrorist El Said Nosair, a Brooklyn resident and city employee, walked into a conference room at the Marriott Hotel on New York's east side. He then brandished a .357 magnum revolver and assassinated Rabbi Meir Kahane, founder of the Jewish Defense League and member of the Israeli parliament. Within hours after the murder the New York City police spokesman said that the defendant did not have ties to terror organizations and labeled the shooting a homicide. Joseph Borelli, then chief of New York City detectives, said the shooting of Rabbi Kahane was the work of a lone gunman and the search of his apartment had turned up nothing.

According to an article written by investigative journalist Seamus McGraw entitled, "The Killing of Rabbi Kahane: Jihad in America," he states:

As authorities would later discover, the bullets fired from Nosair's gun were the opening salvo in a war, a war waged by Islamic extremists against America and its interests. Within three years of the Kahane shooting, a group of men closely linked to Nosair, men led by the blind Sheik Omar Ahmad Abdul Rahman, would launch the first attack on the World Trade Center, setting off a deadly bomb in the basement of the towering building. Later, members of the cabal would be accused of planning a reign of terror against New York, plans that included attacks on the city's bridges and tunnels. And a few years after that, a handful of terrorists, under orders from Osama bin Laden and his Al Qaeda network, a network that counted some of Nosair's allies among its members, would ultimately topple those towers, and attack the Pentagon.

All of it, authorities would later say, was foreshadowed within three days of Nosair's arrest when investigators poring through his Cliffside Park, N.J., apartment would find a diary in his handwriting that would later seem almost prophetic. In it, Nosair called for jihad against the enemies of Islam and urged his comrades to bring America to its knees by destroying the structure of their civilized pillars; their high world buildings which they are proud of; their statues and the buildings in which their leaders gather. But all of that was missed in the days immediately after the Kahane killing. – All about The Killing of Rabbi Kahane: Jihad in America - Crime Library on

Before the authorities can promulgate with complete certitude that these would-be assassins are devoid of any substantive terrorist ties, an extensive investigation must be conducted and all evidence must be made public. There is no question that the pernicious and baneful agenda of radical Islam continues to proliferate in the Western world and as such, the theology of global jihad has taken root in the Middle East, Europe and the United States. And for those who cherish the freedoms that our democratic system affords us; to those who are concerned about the future of Western civilization as we know it; let us raise our collective voices in protest against jihadists of all stripes. Let us shuffle our priorities and let out elected officials and our President know that the threat of jihad on our shores is our number one domestic and foreign policy issue. Before it is too late, we must mobilize expeditiously.

TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York; War on Terror
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1 posted on 05/22/2009 8:16:20 AM PDT by IrishMike
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To: IrishMike
Now that enhanced interrogation techniques are illegal, we just have to take their word for it.Why would they lie?
2 posted on 05/22/2009 8:24:26 AM PDT by Only1choice____Freedom (FDR had the New Deal. President 0bama has the Raw Deal.)
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To: IrishMike

Where are Jesse Hijackson and Al Sharptongue? These bros are being railroaded. They didn’t plant real bombs.

3 posted on 05/22/2009 8:45:56 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Worse than we could have imagined.)
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To: IrishMike

Just like cockroaches. Where you see one or two or three, there will be thousands hiding behind the wallboard.

4 posted on 05/22/2009 8:48:42 AM PDT by Sig Sauer P220 (The great object is that every man be armed. - Patrick Henry)
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To: IrishMike

They did not act independently. They acted according to the carefully laid-out plans written in their guide book, which is recited repeatedly day after day in the meeting houses used by this world-domination movement cleverly disguised as a religion.

5 posted on 05/22/2009 8:55:42 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (both the left and the jihadis want to destroy Western Civilization)
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To: IrishMike; All
Let me add a few hopefully pertinent observations. There is indeed something about this matter that is curious, if not unsettling...

I lived in Riverdale for over 10 years..less than two blocks from the Temple. Indeed, I was married there in 1974. My parents lived there all their lives, and my brother and his family still live in the neighborhood. Riverdale is predominantly Jewish, though less so than 20 years ago. There are over a dozen temples in the area, and many are Orthodox. The Riverdale Jewish Center, the target of the plot, is a Reform is well set back from the street, fronted by trees, and indeed, one could drive by it without even knowing that it's a temple. Many of the Orthodox temples are readily, obviously identified as such. IOW, if there are perhaps several hundred temples in NYC, this once would be just about at the bottom of the list as a possible target. I can;t understand why it would be chosen per se. I suspect that there are connnections still to be revealed that will shed light on this.

6 posted on 05/22/2009 9:27:17 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: luvbach1

Yeah! And the FBI actually gave ‘em the bombs! The Man set ‘em up.

7 posted on 05/22/2009 9:36:55 AM PDT by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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To: IrishMike

Acted independently, no terror group involved,you betcha!

Just 4 good Muslim men looking to do a little target practice, got it.

8 posted on 05/22/2009 11:29:58 AM PDT by TheDailyChange (Politics,Conservatism,Liberalism)
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To: IrishMike

domestic jihad bump

9 posted on 05/22/2009 12:16:28 PM PDT by Dajjal (Obama is an Ericksonian NLP hypnotist.)
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To: IrishMike; Fred Nerks; Bokababe

Yeah, right! “They acted independently”:

There are subversive, muslim Brotherhood-affiliated mosques in EVERY major metropolitan area of the US and Canada. We ignore them at our peril!!!!

But all too many of our deluded elected officials, “mainline” clergy, and other opinion leaders do far worse than ignore them—they mollycoddle them!!!!

10 posted on 05/22/2009 5:24:18 PM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: Honorary Serb

From the comments section:

Islam must be force fed a massive dose of its own putrid medicine.

The simple act of forbidding consanguineous marriage (between first cousins) and a prohibition upon immigration of those who have consumated such unions (along with their concomitant birth defect-ridden offspring), would sharply reduce the burden that Muslims so cheerfully impose upon Western nations.

Strangling the Hawala funds transfer network is another highly productive method of thwarting both jihad and the covert Muslim financial infrastructure in general.

Beyond all irony is how Islam remains so rife with unique vulnerabilities that it alone possesses in such great measure. All that is required is the will to implement reciprocal countermeasures that saddle Muslims with the exact same penalties they so happily impose upon all other faiths.

It is this lack of demand for reciprocity from Islam that, more than anything, epitomizes the yawning gulf which separates modern liberal thought from any demonstration of sanity or reason.

I can only suppose that, along with its hatred of Christianity, modern liberal thought has seen fit to dispose of any regard for the Golden Rule that has always mandated reciprocity

11 posted on 05/22/2009 6:17:18 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: ken5050
Riverdale is predominantly Jewish, though less so than 20 years ago.

Interesting. I thought that it had merely gotten more Orthodox, with the secular Jews and Irish Catholics having left all but entirely. This is why non-Kosher restaurants have been closing over the past decade. Have upwardly mobile Dominicans and Asians been moving there?

12 posted on 05/22/2009 8:42:57 PM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: IrishMike

Jihad Watch

May 21, 2009

Muslims who plotted to blow up Bronx synagogues were jailhouse converts to Islam

“The idea was to create a ‘fireball that would make the country gasp.’”

For more information on the jihad spreading in U.S. prisons, see here (thanks to Olivia).

An update on this story. “FBI arrest four in alleged plot to bomb Bronx synagogues, shoot down plane,” by Michael Daly, Alison Gendar and Helen Kennedy for the New York Daily News, May 21 (thanks to all who sent this in):

The FBI and NYPD busted a four-man homegrown terror cell Wednesday night that was plotting to blow up two Bronx synagogues while simultaneously shooting a plane out of the sky, sources told the Daily News.

The idea was to create a “fireball that would make the country gasp,” one law enforcement said.

Little did they know the plastic explosives packed into their car bombs and the plane-downing Stinger missile in their backseat were all phony - supplied by undercover agents posing as Pakistani militants linked to Al Qaeda....

The suspects - three U.S.-born citizens and one Haitian immigrant - at least three of whom were said to be jailhouse converts to Islam, were angry about the deaths of Muslims in Afghanistan, sources told The News.

“They wanted to make a statement,” a law enforcement source said. “They were filled with rage and wanted to take it out on what they considered the source of all problems in America - the Jews.”

“Strongest among men in enmity to the believers wilt thou find the Jews...” — Qur’an 5:82

The group’s alleged ringleader, James Cromitie, according to the complaint, discussed targets with an undercover agent. “The best target [the World Trade Center] was hit already,” he allegedly told the agent. Later, he rejoiced in a terrorist attack on a synagogue.

“I hate those motherf-——s, those f-—ing Jewish bastards. . . . I would like to get [destroy] a synagogue.”

The men allegedly parked car bombs wired to cell phones outside the Riverdale Temple and nearby Riverdale Jewish Center. They were also heading to Stewart Air National Guard Base in Newburgh, Orange County, when the law swooped in on them....

Posted at May 21, 2009 4:14 AM

Prison Cell to Terror Cell
The insanity of Obama’s proposal to import Islamic supremacists to America.


The New York Times now seems a bit confused as to the religion of the suspects in the terror plot revealed earlier this week:

Law enforcement officials initially said the four men were Muslims, but their religious backgrounds remained uncertain Thursday. [Laguerre] Payen reported himself to be Catholic during his 15-month prison sentence that ended in 2005, according to a state corrections official. [James] Cromitie and Onta Williams both identified themselves as Baptists in prison records, although Mr. Cromitie changed his listed religion to Muslim upon his last two incarcerations; David Williams reported no religious affiliation.

In the same article, however, is a detail that may bear on David Williams’s confessional leanings: It seems he “lately had grown a beard and taken to reading the Koran on slow nights at a steakhouse job.” Another article from today’s Times quotes Wanda Cromitie, James’s sister:

She added that as far as she knew, he was not a Muslim, but said “they do a little time in jail and they don’t eat pork no more.”

We could just call them “cafeterians” and be done with it. But the sister’s observation that “they do a little time in jail” is an important one. If it is difficult to identify the suspects clearly as Muslim, it is because their involvement with Islam is a recent development. But it seems that at least three of the four suspects were introduced to a violent supremacist strain of Islam while serving time in prison.

James Taranto on prisons and radical Islam.

The Times article that quotes Miss Cromitie is titled “Suspects in Terror Bombing Plot: Drug Arrests and Prison Conversions.” It consists of a thumbnail profile of each of them. The Times flatly states that Payen converted to Islam while in prison and strongly suggests that James Cromitie and Onta Williams did as well. (For David Williams, according to Williams’s mother, Islam was “a religion he got from his father.”)......


13 posted on 05/23/2009 5:41:09 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

Excellent post.


14 posted on 05/23/2009 7:47:35 AM PDT by IrishMike (Liberalism is a psychological disorder and a dangerous mental illness.)
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