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Local Confederate Veterans' Group Can’t March in Ohio Parade
The Morehead News ^ | May 22, 2009 | staff

Posted on 05/24/2009 6:22:51 AM PDT by kellynla

The Morehead chapter of the Sons of Confederate Veterans have been denied a request to march in the Ironton Lawrence County Memorial Day Parade.

The 5th Kentucky Infantry Camp #2122 received a letter from Arthur J. Pierson, parade grand marshal, rejecting the group’s request to participate in the parade, without giving any reasons why.

“Your parade request for SCV, 5th Kentucky Infantry camp #2122 Morehead, KY, has been considered and NOT APPROVED,” the letter stated.

The 5th Kentucky wanted to march with a color guard that would feature two Confederate flags – the Kentucky Confederate flag and the Confederate battle flag – and two motorcycles.

The group wanted to march to memorialize the service of Confederate veterans, many of whose descendants live in the tri-state.

It seems the flags were the reason for the camp’s exclusion.

Pierson said later that it would not be right to fly the Confederate flag when there is only one flag – the United States flag. He also said he was concerned about the group wearing the Confederate uniform and other memorabilia.

Memorial Day traces its roots back to the post-Civil War era, in 1868, when General John A. Logan, Commander of this nation’s army, declared that “a day be set aside to honor those men killed in the Civil War.” Originally it was called “Decoration Day,” and as the years passed, its scope was expanded to include all military veterans. Darrell Crawford of Morehead, Adjutant of the 5th Kentucky Infantry Camp 2122, said his group will be marching in Morehead’s Memorial Day parade where they are appreciated by local veterans and citizens of the city and county.

The group marched in last year’s parade.

"It was an honor to get to march in front of the veterans that were at the old courthouse as we fired a volley in their honor and for veterans past,” Crawford said. “When the veterans saluted, tears rolled down my face. That means something of these fine men who served our country. They knew that the Confederate flag was an American flag as well, as some of their ancestors were Confederate-Americans.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: confederates; decorationday; dixie; dixielist; march; memorialday; scv; veterans
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To: 4CJ; stainlessbanner; PeaRidge; TexConfederate1861; wardaddy; Arkinsaw; rustbucket
He's at it again, lying about the South and the Confederacy.
41 posted on 05/24/2009 1:08:07 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: standing man
I think the south needs to rise again from Canada to the gulf of Mexico.

I disagree. We need instead to throw New England and downstate New York out of the Union -- expel them -- let them join Canada, for having worn out their welcome. They fomented the first Civil War, they took war-profiteers' plunder from the war and from the country, enriched themselves, and threw their weight around for 140 years.

It's about time that particular beer-bust came to an end.

42 posted on 05/24/2009 1:13:19 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: kellynla
Where did this take place?

These smalltown papers so often leave out the town and state where things happened.

As for the letter writer, is he black or just liberal?

43 posted on 05/24/2009 1:18:46 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: kellynla

This makes perfect sense. Memorial Day was begun as a holiday to remember the brave Union Soldiers who fought for the US against domestic terrorists during the southern revolt. It was never a very big holiday in the south until after WWII.


44 posted on 05/24/2009 1:23:09 PM PDT by awake-n-angry
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To: lentulusgracchus

“Where did this take place?”

The fist sentence of the article states,

“The Morehead chapter of the Sons of Confederate Veterans have been denied a request to march in the Ironton Lawrence County Memorial Day Parade.”


45 posted on 05/24/2009 1:24:58 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: awake-n-angry
” Memorial Day was begun as a holiday to remember the brave Union Soldiers who fought for the US against domestic terrorists during the southern revolt. It was never a very big holiday in the south until after WWII?”

“domestic ‘terrorists’ and ‘southern revolt’?”
Southerners might have an issue with your characterization.

And I suggest you brush up on your American history.

Local Observances Claim To Be First

“Local springtime tributes to the Civil War dead already had been held in various places. One of the first occurred in Columbus, Miss., April 25, 1866, when a group of women visited a cemetery to decorate the graves of Confederate soldiers who had fallen in battle at Shiloh...Approximately 25 places have been named in connection with the origin of Memorial Day, many of them in the South where most of the war dead were buried.”
Memorial Day Background
History of Memorial Day
UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS AFFAIRS
http://www1.va.gov/opa/speceven/memday/history.asp#hist

46 posted on 05/24/2009 1:36:28 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

I’m from the south. Your example is in April.

Even after Memorial Day was adopted in the south, Decoration Day (the day when Confederate Graves were cleaned and decorated) was also celebrated as a separate holiday.


47 posted on 05/24/2009 1:42:00 PM PDT by awake-n-angry
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To: awake-n-angry
I don't care where you are from...your mischaracterization of the war is insulting and your assumption of the origin of Memorial Day just plain wrong.

Class Dismissed, Newbie!

Good Day!

48 posted on 05/24/2009 1:48:53 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

It seems people are so busy making Lincoln a monster that they neglect applying the same scrutiny to what Jeff and his gang were doing to Southerners. The objective truth is the Confederacy failed miserably in their goal of independence.. Who’s to blame for this obvious failure? I choose to blame the reb politicians and the defects of their cause rather than the devoted Confederate soldiers.


49 posted on 05/24/2009 2:11:03 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: nathanbedford

Yes, they aren’t on the right tier in the hierarchy of rightsholders. Nothing more than that.


50 posted on 05/24/2009 2:11:44 PM PDT by oblomov (Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods. - Mencken)
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To: kellynla

Since September 20, 1776 members of the American military have sworn an oath to the United States. My Memorial Day and allegiance is dedicated to patriots of the US alone.

I refues to be one of these, “I support the memory of the troops, not the cause” southerners. You go to war with the US, you lose, end of story.


51 posted on 05/24/2009 2:20:28 PM PDT by awake-n-angry
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To: NavyCanDo
I only realized that the Confederacy was an oppressive regime hostile to the Founders' ideals when I went beyond what I learned in school and read for myself contemporary accounts of the times. A good place to start reading about the forgotten ugly nature of the Confederacy is Oliver Perry Temple's 1899 book, East Tennessee and the Civil War. Not only is it a illuminating history of the rebellion in that part of the world, Temple's acquaintances with many of the influential people of the time like Isham Harris, John Bell, Andrew Johnson and Parson Brownlow shine light on the motives leading to secession, accommodation or resistance from the movers and shakers of that age..
52 posted on 05/24/2009 2:23:31 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: awake-n-angry

“You go to war with the US, you lose, end of story?”

Did the US win the Korean War? NO!
Did the US win the Viet Nam War? NO!

I don’t know where you studied American History but you need to go back and start over.

Your ignorance of American history is only surpassed by your arrogance. shezzzzzzzzzzzzz...

Now, quit bothering me with your stupid posts, Newbie!


53 posted on 05/24/2009 2:42:13 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

“The Union Army were truly liberators for delivering Dixie from the reb reign of terror.”

Say what??? That’s funny, because the citizens of New Orleans (who fell under Yankee domination relatively early in the war) despised the Yankees, especially Benjamin “The Beast” Butler. You should read up on the Yankee occupation of Southern territory. The Yankees were utterly despised.


54 posted on 05/24/2009 4:34:34 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Charlespg

“I think it was said that at one time Indiana had the highest klan membership in the US.”

That’s a fact.


55 posted on 05/24/2009 4:36:56 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

“The objective truth is the Confederacy failed miserably in their goal of independence.”

It’s pretty hard for a nascent nation (such as the Confederate States of America) to move forward when it has from its very inception been physically attacked and invaded by the largest army on the continent.


56 posted on 05/24/2009 4:42:11 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: ought-six
You should read up on the Yankee occupation of Southern territory. The Yankees were utterly despised.

Apparently the Yankees were despised only in certain locales among a certain element of the populace. Here's the reaction of the southern citizens to the Yankees' entrance into Red Clay, Georgia as recorded in the history of the 96th Illinois Infantry Regiment by Charles Partridge:

"The Union citizens were quite demonstrative, some of them even bringing out flags, which had doubtless been hidden for at least three years. Women swung their bonnets and men hurrahed for the Yankees and the Union, manifesting great delight. One man, who claimed to be ninety-eight years old and to have been a Captain in the war of 1812, was almost frantic in his ejaculations when the Old Flag came into sight."

57 posted on 05/24/2009 4:48:57 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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“I think that it was not a good idea in this town,” Pierson said. “We have turned away others for different reasons. It is according to what they want to put in. If it is contradictory, we don’t need that problem. This parade is for veterans.”

Past Grand Marshal Bob Blankenship sees no problem with the organization carrying the flag of the Confederacy or wearing the uniform of that army.

“If it is appropriate, I have no problem with it,” he said. “We know the Civil War was fought and had the blue and gray. The South represented the rebel flag. I have no problem with it. We are honoring all veterans, it’s not a matter of race or religion.”

******

I wonder if they allow gays to march in their parades?!


59 posted on 05/24/2009 4:57:00 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

That’s kind of like the Nazis being welcomed as liberators when they marched into Czechoslovakia (and I’m not talking about the Sudetenlad). No doubt there were a few Nazi sympathizers, and no doubt there were a few Czechs who were terrified of the occupation and “went along to get along.” But “maifesting great delight?” No way. Ditto with the Yankee occupation of the South. To subscribe to your belief that the citizens of the Confederacy were wild in their happiness at being “liberated” by the Yankees one would have to believe that those citizens were wild with joy and happiness that those very same Yankees killed their sons and brothers and fathers. Not only no way, but no f***ing way!


60 posted on 05/24/2009 5:02:27 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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