Who would have thought. Socialism/Communism/Obamanism lead to death?
Posted on 05/25/2009 6:52:45 PM PDT by massmike
Don't believe what the movies say. Lionized by Hollywood and California state legislators, the real Milk was a demagogue and pal of Jim Jones.
(Excerpt) Read more at city-journal.org ...
Great read
On November 17, 1978, Jim Jones was a hero to American leftists. On November 18, 1978, Jones orchestrated the killings of 918 people and strangely morphed in the eyes of American leftists into an evangelical Christian fanatic.
“The temple was as much a left-wing political crusade as a church. In the course of the 1970s, its social program grew steadily more disaffiliated from what Jim Jones came to regard as ‘Fascist America’ and drifted rapidly toward outspoken Communist sympathies.” So much so that the last will and testament of the Peoples Temple, and its individual members who left notes, bequeathed millions of dollars in assets to the Soviet Union.
By virtue of producing rent-free rent-a-rallies for liberal politicians and causes, Jim Jones engendered enormous amounts of good will from Democratic politicians and activists. They allowed their political ambitions to derail their governing responsibilities. Frisco pols like Harvey Milk never seemed to care how Jones could, at the snap of his fingers, direct hundreds of people to stack a public meeting or volunteer for a campaign. City Councilman Milk just knew that he benefitted from that control, and therefore never bothered to do anything to inhibit the dangerous cult operating in his city. Instead, he actively aided and abetted a homicidal maniac. It wasn’t just local hacks Jones commanded respect from. He held court with future First Lady Rosalyn Carter, vice presidential candidate Walter Mondale, and California Governor Jerry Brown.
Gus Van Sant’s film about Harvey Milk will not address Milk’s connection to Jim Jones and the People’s Temple. The most astounding thing about the relationship between the two is Milk’s continued support and defense of Jones after ex-members of the PT sued Jones, who then fled to Guyana. Milk even wrote a letter to President Carter in Feb, 1978 calling Jones a man of the “highest character” and accusing Tim and Grace Stoen of telling “bold-faced lies” about Jones’ in their lawsuit against him to regain custody of their son from Jones. In the letter, Milk seems particularly angry that the Stoen’s were attempting to bring Jones’ abuses to the attention of the US Congress as early as the summer of 1977.
“So much so that the last will and testament of the Peoples Temple, and its individual members who left notes, bequeathed millions of dollars in assets to the Soviet Union.”
I certainly hope those “wills” were declared legally invalid! If only there were an Internet back then to unmask this maniac...
I thought Harvey Milk was a complete scourge on the beautiful City of San Fran. I grew-up there and worked there. Jones was a horrific weirdo and Milk was an embarrassment. That’s how I saw it. In fact, there really hasn’t been a good Mayor there since Joe Alioto left office. LOOONG TIME ago. So sad.
When Fruits, Nuts and Flakes take over that is what happens.
This is the letter to Carter where Milk slanders the victims of Jim Jones’ abuse, praises Jones, says that the Jones should have custody of the child who he latter murders*, and tells Carter that an investigation would harm US relations with Guyana.
http://www.brasscheck.com/jonestown/milk.jpg
*John Stoen, is the son of Tim and Grace Stoen whom Milk specifically attacked in his letter to Carter as they were attempting to extricate their son and others from Jonestown. Months later, 6 year old John Stoen was found poisoned in Jim Jones’ cabin.
This is what was going on in Jonestown at the time of Milk’s letter to Carter –
Tracy Parks, a 10 year-old survivor of the Port Kaituma airstrip shootings, recalled that “Children who said they were not happy and wanted to go away were severely beaten.” It was also reported that one 12 year-old girl was “kept imprisoned for weeks in a plywood box three feet wide, four feet high and six feet long.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jones
The move of Peoples Temple headquarters to San Francisco in 1975 invigorated Jones’ political career. After the Temple served an important role in the mayoral election victory of George Moscone in 1975, Moscone appointed Jones as the Chairman of the San Francisco Housing Authority Commission.[42]
Unlike most other figures deemed as cult leaders, Jones was able to gain public support and contact with prominent local and national United States politicians. For example, Jones and Moscone met privately with vice presidential candidate Walter Mondale on his campaign plane days before the 1976 election and Mondale publicly praised the Temple.[43][44] First Lady Rosalynn Carter also personally met with Jones on multiple occasions, corresponded with him about Cuba, and spoke with him at the grand opening of the San Francisco Democratic Party Headquarters where Jones garnered louder applause than Mrs. Carter.[43][45][46]
In September 1976, Willie Brown served as master of ceremonies at a large testimonial dinner for Jones attended by Governor Jerry Brown and Lieutenant Governor Mervyn Dymally and other political figures.[47] At that dinner, while introducing Jones, Willie Brown stated “Let me present to you what you should see every day when you look in the mirror in the early morning hours … Let me present to you a combination of Martin King, Angela Davis, Albert Einstein … Chairman Mao.”[48] Harvey Milk, who spoke at political rallies at the Temple,[49] and wrote to Jones after a visit to the Temple: “Rev Jim, It may take me many a day to come back down from the high that I reach today. I found something dear today. I found a sense of being that makes up for all the hours and energy placed in a fight. I found what you wanted me to find. I shall be back. For I can never leave.”[50][51]
Amidst growing pressure in the United States to investigate the Temple, on February 19, 1978, Harvey Milk wrote a letter of support for the Peoples Temple to President Jimmy Carter.[75][76][77] Therein, Milk wrote that Jones was known “as a man of the highest character.”[77] Regarding the leader of those attempting to extricate relatives from Jonestown, Milk wrote he was “attempting to damage Rev. Jones reputation” with “apparent bold-faced lies.
Milk was a supporter of controversial political figure Jim Jones, who had been appointed Chairman of the San Francisco Housing Commission after the participation of the Peoples Temple (headed by Jones) was instrumental in the 1975 Mayoral election victory of George Moscone.[1] Milk was not a member of the Temple, but supported effective remedies the Temple had taken addressing various social problems.[2] As well, Jones himself was bisexual[3] and had supported politicians under attack for LGBT-related issues.[4] Like Moscone, Milk received help from Peoples Temple member volunteers in his campaigns.[5] After Jones came under fire, Milk wrote Jones a handwritten note stating “my name is cut into stone in support of you - and your people.”[5] Milk spoke at political rallies at the Peoples Temple.[6] Following a visit to the Peoples Temple, Milk wrote to Jones stating that he there found a sense of being, making up for all the hours and energy placed in a fight, and that he can never leave.[7] After Jones fled to Guyana in August of 1977 following accusations of criminal wrongdoing, Milk attended a rally for the Peoples Temple with Art Agnos.[8]
Willie Brown stated “he has not regrets” over his past association with Jones and the People’s Temple. Brown also mentioned he would not try to dissociate himself like so many other politicians were. “They all like to say, ‘Forgive me, I was wrong’, but that’s bulls–t. It doesn’t mean a thing now, it just isn’t relevant.”
Famed civil rights activist Jesse Jackson also defended Jones, stating that “until all the facts are in, he would regard Jones as a man who ‘worked for the people’…I would hope that all of the good he did will not be discounted because of this tremendous tragedy.”
Who would have thought. Socialism/Communism/Obamanism lead to death?
As a human with compassion, I am sorry Harvey Milk was assassinated. But he is being made into some sort of martyr for gay rights and liberal causes, which seems undeserved.
It is undeserved.
For the left there are no real heroes except the ones they have lifted up while tearing down those who are heroes in the own right. Values of independence, courage, self reliance are incompatible with the “heroism” of the left.
Has anyone sent this information to Arnold? Or to the CA assembly?
“What’s that smell in this room? Didn’t you notice it, Brick? Didn’t you notice the powerful and obnoxious odor of mendacity in this room?”
"It is difficult for me to say that Jonestown was a positive event in history because of its outcome but I will say that it was not a wholly negative event if we choose to learn from it.
This is where 900 people were murdered and this lady says it is not wholly negative.
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh.
generally highest profile individuals are assassinated
-perhaps the militant gay left would describe his killing that way but not in my book.
mtv seems to pushing a male on male from “milk” kiss as the “best kiss”. It is really a promotion of the weird.
Nor mine.
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