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George Tiller (Child Murderer) shot to death at Wichita church
Wichita Eagle ^ | 05/30/2009 | Stan Finger

Posted on 05/31/2009 9:35:48 AM PDT by Kansas58

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To: P-Marlowe

Yep.


201 posted on 05/31/2009 10:15:20 AM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: Kansas58

Prayers for a deeply misguided soul.


202 posted on 05/31/2009 10:15:21 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: EDINVA
There is a VERY simple response:

If all prolifers were violent, if all prolifers were vigilantes, Tiller would have been dead a very long time ago!

203 posted on 05/31/2009 10:15:24 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: BlackElk

*ping*


204 posted on 05/31/2009 10:15:40 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Kansas58

The shooter is entitled to a trial by jury.....Fill the jury box.


205 posted on 05/31/2009 10:15:51 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Hey hey! Ho ho! Where's your Birth Certificate/ We've a right to know!)
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To: Matchett-PI; Glenn

Why shame on you.

Do you not believe that murdering legions of infants is reprehensible and has consequence.

His redemption is tween him and God, it’s arrogant for folks here to insist we worry about it.

Do you pray for Hitler and Pol Pot.

Some freepers have little harsh life boots on the ground I can see.

Worrying about a mass mudering baby killer....Good lord.

Shame on you...lol...and I like you btw MPI...as do I a fair number of the other Tiller angst folks here.

Not me buddy.


206 posted on 05/31/2009 10:16:02 AM PDT by wardaddy (Obama .....you are not my friend. You are an enemy of this nation and my culture and traditions)
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To: Kansas58
There seem to be few alternatives left for us.

Not true at all. The Leftists have lost the abortion debate.

207 posted on 05/31/2009 10:16:06 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries for the American farmer.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Thanks for the link.


208 posted on 05/31/2009 10:16:07 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
O'Reilly's been spotlighting Tiller, calling him "Tiller the Baby Killer" for years.

This was one of the few things that O'Reilly got right.

209 posted on 05/31/2009 10:16:19 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: doug from upland

fair enough but we know it probably was...


210 posted on 05/31/2009 10:16:35 AM PDT by wardaddy (Obama .....you are not my friend. You are an enemy of this nation and my culture and traditions)
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To: Kansas58

I wonder if they’ll lower the flags to half mast at the University of Notre Dame?


211 posted on 05/31/2009 10:16:35 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (The University of Notre Dame's motto: "Kill our unborn children? YES WE CAN!")
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To: wardaddy

You know that if the perp can in any way be connected to the right wing, it will hurt the movement?


212 posted on 05/31/2009 10:16:38 AM PDT by SolidWood (Palin: "We do not want to become slaves of Washington.")
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To: big'ol_freeper
A white male with a handgun who's the right age for a Vietnam veteran.

Just too close a match for the stereotypical "pro-life extremist" description to be entirely believable.

George Tiller thought his political connections to the White House would protect him. He learned far too late that Obama throws those closest to him under the bus first. The pro-abortion movement needed a fresh martyr, and George Tiller fit the bill.

213 posted on 05/31/2009 10:16:41 AM PDT by Loyalist (Don't like slavery? Don't own one!)
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To: Kansas58

FOXNews has just run it saying the authorities are in the midst of a manhunt looking for the individual/suspect who shot Tiller.


214 posted on 05/31/2009 10:16:43 AM PDT by cranked
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To: cranked
You do realize that if this story proves true, that it will be played by the liberal Barry media as the work committed by a rightwing extremist?
And if it was a rightwinger who did this the media would be wrong how? If it was a rightwinger it WAS an extremist. I'm a rightwinger and I don't go around shooting anyone, no matter how much I disagree with them politically.
215 posted on 05/31/2009 10:16:49 AM PDT by AUH2O Repub
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To: Kansas58

Sometimes retaliatory force is necessary to stop initiation of force by those who are violating natural rights. Preservation of life and natural rights of the innocent is a natural duty that God requires.


216 posted on 05/31/2009 10:16:53 AM PDT by mjp (pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, independence, limited government, capitalism})
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To: KansasGirl

I was raised to feel sorrow for any soul that you know is bound for hell.


217 posted on 05/31/2009 10:17:06 AM PDT by aft_lizard (One animal actually eats its own brains to conserve energy, we call them liberals.)
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To: Waco

That’s not in the script. These guys follow the script. White, middle-aged, Twinkie-eating Christian.


218 posted on 05/31/2009 10:17:17 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: PapaBear3625

Strange coverage


219 posted on 05/31/2009 10:17:27 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: IDRATHERNOT
There's going to be a lot of blow-back on this against the conservative and pro-life movements. In an Obama administration, you can count on it.

If the shoot was a CCW holder, expect a BIG hit against the whole idea of CCW nationwide.

However many people didn't like Tiller, this was NOT the way to deal with him.

220 posted on 05/31/2009 10:17:38 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money -- Thatcher)
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To: Arkinsaw
"Actions like this do vast harm to the Pro-Life movement...not to mention 2nd Amendment rights."

Which is exactly why it happened. Obama appoints a hoplophobic pro-abortion Catholic to the Supreme Court, and that very same weekend something happens to paint all gun-owners and pro-life people as dangerous whackjobs. You're free to call that coincidence, but I don't.

221 posted on 05/31/2009 10:17:41 AM PDT by Fabozz
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To: Kansas58

Murder is wrong. Murder is criminal. But it isn’t necessarily “tragic.” The things that Tiller did were murderous and tragic, but unfortunately not criminal. His transgressions were far more foul than his killer’s.


222 posted on 05/31/2009 10:17:58 AM PDT by clintonh8r (Librerals are more dangerous to liberty than terrorists.)
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To: P-Marlowe
If you call abortion murder, then this was justifiable homicide.

No, justifiable homicide is a legal term and has to do with exigent circumstances. This was an execution. Legally it is first degree murder not justifiable homicide. Morally? Well that is another case and up to each individuals conscience.

223 posted on 05/31/2009 10:18:12 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: doug from upland

KMBC TV in Kansas City will have updates

http://www.kmbc.com/index.html


224 posted on 05/31/2009 10:18:47 AM PDT by doug from upland (10 million views of .HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: Fabozz
You're free to call that coincidence, but I don't.

Speaking of coincidence, today is the sixth anniversary of the arrest of Eric Rudolph.

225 posted on 05/31/2009 10:19:06 AM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: Kansas58

Thank God that George Tiller will not be able to murder any more innocent babies.


226 posted on 05/31/2009 10:19:21 AM PDT by Palladin (Obama hates unborn babies.)
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To: jwalsh07

Agreed. Well stated.


227 posted on 05/31/2009 10:19:25 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper ([Advocate for] Mitt Romney[?], God help you, but you're on the wrong website ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: Kansas58
This particular “church” was pro-abortion.

Words fail me.

228 posted on 05/31/2009 10:19:27 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: EternalVigilance

True, true....


229 posted on 05/31/2009 10:19:29 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist; umgud

This brings me to another thought. We need to use this event against them.

We need to start accusing Napolitano and Obama of a hidden conspiracy with the gunman of attempting to give pro-lifers a bad name by killing abortionist Tiller.

These people have no problem twisting reality to benefit their agenda, I don’t see why we shouldn’t do it to them.


230 posted on 05/31/2009 10:20:03 AM PDT by prismsinc (A.K.A. "The Terminator"!)
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To: Kansas58

If the killer just put scissors into his skull, it would be considered a late term abortion (60+ years late) and he would be a hero of the left, rather than a domestic terrorist.


231 posted on 05/31/2009 10:20:36 AM PDT by tips up
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To: AUH2O Repub

Are you assuming this individual is indeed a rightwinger, thus inherently extremist? Hell, they have not even caught the suspect yet.

At any rate, my point remains fact: Regardless IF the suspect is a rightwing extremist or NOT, the Barry media will run it/portray it as an act committed by a rightwing extremist. +1 for Napolitano and liberals via their recently released report on Rightwing Extremists.......!


232 posted on 05/31/2009 10:20:41 AM PDT by cranked
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To: jwalsh07

We won’t lose any pro-lifers over this and mushy middle folks who don’t get it never will anyhow....until they have kids or grow up or find Christ.

It’ll just heat up the rhetoric but it might have other consequences...not sure any can get any worse under this administration.

Some folks might get scared.

Gun control for right wing groups (if that’s the shooter) might flare up....more survellience of pro-life groups that sort of thing...


233 posted on 05/31/2009 10:20:51 AM PDT by wardaddy (Obama .....you are not my friend. You are an enemy of this nation and my culture and traditions)
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To: earlJam

He was a Lutheran?

Good Lord! What has become of the Lutheran Church that it accepts unrepentant mass murderers?


234 posted on 05/31/2009 10:21:01 AM PDT by Palladin (Obama hates unborn babies.)
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To: Kansas58

235 posted on 05/31/2009 10:21:12 AM PDT by seatrout (I wouldn't know most "American Idol" winners if I tripped over them!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Galatians 6:7-10:

Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, this he will also reap. For the one who sows to his own flesh shall from the flesh reap corruption, but the one who sows to the Spirit shall from the Spirit reap eternal life. And let us not lose heart in doing good, for in due time we shall reap if we do not grow weary. So then, while we have opportunity, let us do good to all men, and especially to those who are of the household of the faith.


236 posted on 05/31/2009 10:21:18 AM PDT by Ladycalif (Free - Ramos and Compean)
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To: wagglebee
I don’t think the number is correct. Tiller’s “specialty” was partial-birth/late-term abortions. They are fairly time-consuming and he had been performing 250 to 300 a year.

I don't think the number is correct either. Then again, for early-term abortions it might just be that he just has to supervise and have his staff do the actual work.

237 posted on 05/31/2009 10:21:21 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money -- Thatcher)
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To: BenLurkin
Words fail me.

Check out an award Tiller received:

Religious Coalition for Abortion Rights’ Faith and Freedom Award.

238 posted on 05/31/2009 10:21:27 AM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: Waco
What if it turns out that the shooter was the father of one of the aborted children?

We are assuming on this thread that it is an antiabortion activitist.

What if it isn't.

239 posted on 05/31/2009 10:21:38 AM PDT by Battle Axe (Repent, for the coming of the Lord is neigh.)
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To: doug from upland

That would be my first choice. I always told my kids that abortion is out. We’ll raise any babies or help them raise them but they couldn’t get abortions. My kids ended up never having that problem.


240 posted on 05/31/2009 10:21:51 AM PDT by Freedom Dignity n Honor (There are permanent moral truths.)
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To: BenLurkin
Why would an abortionist go to church?

To hand out business cards?

241 posted on 05/31/2009 10:22:05 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: definitelynotaliberal

I suppose if Hitler had been assassinated there would have been many “good” Germans who would have looked at the assassin as a “crazy”. Let’s face it - this country has lost it’s soul. We live in a post-Judeo-Christian nation and it will only go down hill from here. There will certainly be many “good” Americans that lament the passing of this evil man. With a federal government, press and apostate “church” firmly entrenched in liberal secular theology we are witnessing the end of the founder’s America.


242 posted on 05/31/2009 10:22:10 AM PDT by gscc
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To: chuck_the_tv_out; Big_Monkey; Big Giant Head; wagglebee

You’re probably right. I should have run those numbers before posting the quote.

Anyway. How many is too many.


243 posted on 05/31/2009 10:22:12 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out (click my name)
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To: BenLurkin

Tiller went to an “E.L.C.A.” Lutheran church. They do not take a stand on abortion.

Prior to that he went to Holy Cross Lutheran, a “Missouri Synod” church. They “WE” are very much opposed to abortion. Holy Cross excommunicated George from the church some time ago!


244 posted on 05/31/2009 10:22:15 AM PDT by Jeffrey_D.
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To: Kansas58

Did they stick a scissors in the back of his neck?


245 posted on 05/31/2009 10:22:32 AM PDT by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: freeplancer
"He had the goods on Kathleen Sebelius, and that means she was blackmailable. I wonder if they will catch the killer on this one?!"

If they don't, then we know which side did it.

246 posted on 05/31/2009 10:22:36 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Loyalist

It is very possible this is Obamacide, but it will be tied to a “right-wing extremist” to cover the tracks.


247 posted on 05/31/2009 10:22:51 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper ([Advocate for] Mitt Romney[?], God help you, but you're on the wrong website ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: cranked

FNC reporting


248 posted on 05/31/2009 10:23:19 AM PDT by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: jwalsh07
Nothing accomplished by murdering him except to turn mushy public opinion against pro lifers. And no babies saved. That's the tearful part.

That's it exactly. More children will die as a result of this than were saved by eliminating Tiller. Americans have and will turn on the pro-life movement if it resorts to violence (regardless of the inherent violence the "choice" movement represents).

And it's worse than that. This thing plays into the left's hands on so many levels... media, internet, 2nd Amendment, the DHS memo, etc. This is a strategic disaster that couldn't have happened at a worse time (which makes me real curious to see who the shooter is).

But I don't mourn one second for the monster. I mourn for all the innocent people of faith and good will that will be effected by this reckless, thoughtless deed.

249 posted on 05/31/2009 10:23:29 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: PapaBear3625
I don't think the number is correct either. Then again, for early-term abortions it might just be that he just has to supervise and have his staff do the actual work.

Tiller testified to the number in his trial two months ago.

Verdict in George Tiller Late-Term Abortion Trial Expected Friday, Witnesses Done


250 posted on 05/31/2009 10:23:34 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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