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Federal Reserve puzzled by yield curve steepening
Reuters ^

Posted on 5/31/2009, 11:11:11 PM by traumer

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Federal Reserve is studying significant moves in the U.S. government bond market last week that could have big implications for the central bank's strategy to combat the country's recession.

But the Fed is not really sure what is driving the sharp rise in long-dated bond yields, and especially a widening gap between short and long term yields.

Do rising U.S. Treasury yields and a steepening yield curve suggest an economic recovery is more certain, meaning less need for safe haven government bonds and a healthy demand for credit? If so, there might be less need for the Fed to expand the money supply by buying more U.S. Treasuries.

Or does the steepening yield curve mean investors are worried about the deterioration in the U.S. fiscal outlook, or the potential for a collapse in the U.S. dollar as the Fed floods the world with newly minted currency as part of its quantitative easing program. This might be an argument to augment to step up asset purchases.

Another possibility is that China, the largest foreign holder of U.S. Treasury debt, has decided to refocus its portfolio by leaning more heavily on shorter-term maturities.

With officials still grappling to divine the factors steepening the yield curve, a speedy decision on whether to ramp up the Treasury debt purchase program or the related plan to snap up mortgage-related debt seems unlikely.

"I'm in wait-and-see mode," said one Fed official who spoke on the condition of anonymity. "We laid out the asset purchase plan and we're following it. That is going to have some affect on various interest rates, but together with a hundred other things. So I don't think we should be chasing a long-term interest rate," the official said.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bonds; inflation
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1 posted on 5/31/2009, 11:11:11 PM by traumer
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To: traumer

It means that there are a lot of people betting that the Obama era will be short lived.


2 posted on 5/31/2009, 11:12:53 PM by Steamburg ( Your wallet speaks the only language most politicians understand.)
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To: traumer
the sharp rise in long-dated bond yields

No one wants to be holding them when the prime rate hits 21%?

3 posted on 5/31/2009, 11:14:40 PM by BenLurkin
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To: Steamburg

“It means that there are a lot of people betting that the Obama era will be short lived.”

That’s a bad bet. The MSM will nurse him along as much as required. He’ll do 4 just fine, and I strongly suspect he’ll get a 2nd term.


4 posted on 5/31/2009, 11:15:09 PM by brownsfan (Kool aid comes in two new flavors: Hope and Change.)
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To: traumer

Wow! Maybe some of the big investors are beginning to GET it! Government is just plain stupid here...


5 posted on 5/31/2009, 11:15:12 PM by Deagle
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To: Steamburg

It means that the world believes that we are the reincarnation of the Weimar Republic, DUH!


6 posted on 5/31/2009, 11:15:14 PM by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem in the name of the G-d of Jacob)
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To: traumer
Or does the steepening yield curve mean investors are worried about the deterioration in the U.S. fiscal outlook, or the potential for a collapse in the U.S. dollar as the Fed floods the world with newly minted currency as part of its quantitative easing program. This might be an argument ... to step up asset purchases.

Come again? I reach exactly the opposite conclusion. The market.. and I.. see quantitative easing as a pretty name for money printing currency debasement. Of course the price of those assets is going to trend downward, which means they bear higher interest rates. Doing more of the same will eventually make the problem worse.

7 posted on 5/31/2009, 11:15:19 PM by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really necessary?)
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To: traumer
the Fed is not really sure what is driving the sharp rise in long-dated bond yields

Door Number Two, Monty!: "the deterioration in the U.S. fiscal outlook, or the potential for a collapse in the U.S. dollar as the Fed floods the world with newly minted currency"

I wouldn't buy a "10-minute Treasury Bond" at this point, never mind tying up my money for 30 years or ten years. In fact, I'm doing the opposite: I'm busting my ass to buy a house so I'll be paying my housing costs for the next thirty years in hyperinflated "dollars".

8 posted on 5/31/2009, 11:15:46 PM by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: traumer

Puzzled? The “gig” is up on the biggest financial scam ever perpetrated in the history of mankind... The creation of the Federal Reserve and the multi-generational bankruptcy of America.


9 posted on 5/31/2009, 11:15:46 PM by IDRATHERNOT
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To: traumer

Alex, that would be “What happens when more and more investors start betting against the dollar?”


10 posted on 5/31/2009, 11:16:09 PM by silverleaf ("Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal ( Martin Luther King))
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To: traumer

There is nothing the Fed can do about it. The baby-boomers are retiring in droves and they will be spending far less money for goods and services. There are not enough echo-boomers to keep the party going. Look for a short term market rally into this Summer, then a big long term crash starting in the Fall.


11 posted on 5/31/2009, 11:16:12 PM by Signalman
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To: Bobkk47

As predicted Harry Dent, in ‘The Coming Great Depression”

Interesting read


12 posted on 5/31/2009, 11:17:59 PM by silverleaf ("Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal ( Martin Luther King))
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To: Steamburg
I would be very surprised if America turns out to ave a real appetite for socialism. I used to think that every era in American history needs its own dalliance with absurdity and then a return to reason and growth. Maybe Obambi is simply the depth of the trough and things will get better. America's demand for guns and ammo suggests that we are not happy with what's going on.

On that note, perhaps in five years or so there will be a glut of hardly used guns for sale in the gun shops.

13 posted on 5/31/2009, 11:18:41 PM by muir_redwoods ( Hey, remember the last head of state who dictated the design of automobiles?)
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To: BenLurkin
No one wants to be holding them when the prime rate hits 21%?

That and the opposite problem: when the dollar goes to 0.25EU.

Mr. President, did you want to repeat that "we're out of money," just in case nobody understood?

14 posted on 5/31/2009, 11:19:15 PM by the invisib1e hand (the machines are breaking.)
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To: everyone

http://www.moneymorning.com/2009/05/28/government-bonds-not-safe/

I don’t really understand all this, but I saw this yesterday. Maybe it will be meaningful to some of you.

Meanwhile, if anyone can recommend a Financial Education for Dummies book, I’d appreciate it.


15 posted on 5/31/2009, 11:20:50 PM by Technical Editor
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To: traumer
But the Fed is not really sure what is driving the sharp rise in long-dated bond yields, and especially a widening gap between short and long term yields.

Either the writer is just lying or the people running the Fed are complete idiots. It can't be both so I'm betting that the Fed knows very well what is going on here:

Short term interest rates are low because there is still enough fear in the market that people cling to the security of knowing that they will not lose capital. Short term treasuries provide that assurance. When the bonds come due they will be paid in full. Guaranteed. Very safe.

Long term bonds are another story. The market is telling the Fed that it anticipates future inflation and expects a higher yield or it won't purchase Treasuries. It's that simple. As the threat of inflation grows, as it certainly will in the coming months and years, you can be sure that the yield demands for long term Treasuries will rise at the same pace.

16 posted on 5/31/2009, 11:21:02 PM by InterceptPoint
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To: Toddsterpatriot; Mase; expat_panama; LowCountryJoe

Interesting read.


17 posted on 5/31/2009, 11:21:43 PM by 1rudeboy
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To: traumer

I know nothing about the market; but I would be Soros is somewhere in the background undercover.


18 posted on 5/31/2009, 11:24:53 PM by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: freekitty

bet Soros is in there.


19 posted on 5/31/2009, 11:25:18 PM by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: traumer
But the Fed is not really sure what is driving the sharp rise in long-dated bond yields...

If that were so, then it's filled with idiots that need assistance to feed themselves...

20 posted on 5/31/2009, 11:25:23 PM by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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