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Alleged George Tiller Shooter Scott Roeder May Have Suffered From Mental Illness
Life News ^
| 6/1/09
| Steven Ertelt
Posted on 06/01/2009 1:17:54 PM PDT by wagglebee
Wichita, KS (LifeNews.com) -- Scott Roeder, the 51-year-old Kansas man who authorities have detained as the only suspect in the shooting of late-term abortion practitioner George Tiller, may have suffered from mental illness. That's according to his ex-wife, who said in a recent interview that Roeder always held extremist views.
Lindsey Roeder, who divorced Roeder in 1996 after 10 years of marriage, told the Topeka Capital-Journal that Roeder had a mental evaluation in the mid 1990s.
Although he did not believe he had any mental health issues, everyone else did," she told the newspaper.
He just felt these were his views, she said of his position supporting the killing of people who kill others, such as abortion practitioners. "He followed the view of an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth.
"It scared me," she said of his approach, which has been linked to militia and anti-government groups and attitudes.
Meanwhile, Roeder's family released a statement, according to the newspaper, saying. We are shocked, horrified and filled with sadness at the death of Dr. Tiller and the circumstances surrounding it that may have involved Scott Roeder."
The statement confirmed the mental health problems, but said Roeder was otherwise a nice guy.
We know Scott as a kind and loving son, brother and father who suffered from mental illness at various times in his life," it said. "However, none of us ever saw Scott as a person capable of or willing to take another persons life. Our deepest regrets, prayers and sympathy go out to the Tiller family during this terrible time.
After serving 16 months in prison following a parole violation after officials found a license plate altered with anti-government slogans and bombmaking materials in his car and home, a Shawnee County District Court judge said Roeder presented a "threat of danger to the public."
Law enforcement officials told the Capital Journal newspaper at the time that Roeder was a "loving" but "obsessed" man, but maintained they didn't expect him to actually hurt anyone.
Roeder has no links to any legitimate pro-life group other than a couple of postings on a public forum on a pro-life web site. Otherwise, he has never been a volunteer of, staff member of or in any way associated with either national, state or local pro-life groups.
That and hundreds of condemnations of the Tiller shooting from pro-life groups hasn't stopped abortion advocates from exploiting Tiller's death for political gain and blaming pro-life advocates for his death.
TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; mentalillness; prolife; roeder; scottroeder; tiller
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Unfortunately the left will portray him as a "typical" pro-life advocate.
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posted on
06/01/2009 1:17:54 PM PDT
by
wagglebee
To: cgk; Coleus; cpforlife.org; narses; Salvation; 8mmMauser
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posted on
06/01/2009 1:18:17 PM PDT
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: wagglebee
Not guilty by reason of insanity, is that what these guys are leading up to?
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posted on
06/01/2009 1:19:56 PM PDT
by
pray4liberty
(http://www.foundersvalues.com/)
To: wagglebee
If this line of inquiry keeps up then the story will become “How did a mentally ill man get a gun?”
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posted on
06/01/2009 1:21:17 PM PDT
by
Borges
To: pray4liberty
Being mentally ill DOES NOT mean a person is legally insane.
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posted on
06/01/2009 1:21:39 PM PDT
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: wagglebee
Scott Roeder, the 51-year-old Kansas man who authorities have detained as the only suspect in the shooting of late-term abortion practitioner George Tiller, may have suffered from mental illness.
I thought Roeder was still alive. Why is this in the past tense?
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posted on
06/01/2009 1:22:01 PM PDT
by
gitmo
(History books will read that Lincoln freed the slaves and Obama enslaved the free.)
To: wagglebee
Cui Bono - for whom the benefit? The left and the Obama administration are going to use him as the excuse for a crackdown on free speech and dissent and probably gun ownership on anyone critical of abortion or the socialist agenda. I smell a rat. It wouldn't be the first time the left has consumed one of their own to advance their agenda. I mean if they will accept the killing of 60 million unborn babies, what is one old doctor?
To: wagglebee
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posted on
06/01/2009 1:22:24 PM PDT
by
mockingbyrd
(Dick Cheney gets results!)
To: wagglebee
.......and blaming pro-life advocates for his death. They can blame me if they want to, I have big shoulders.
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posted on
06/01/2009 1:22:41 PM PDT
by
Graybeard58
(29 shopping days to Graybeard58's 64th. b/day. Selah.)
To: wagglebee
Roeder has no links to any legitimate pro-life group other than a couple of postings on a public forum on a pro-life web site. Otherwise, he has never been a volunteer of, staff member of or in any way associated with either national, state or local pro-life groups. Well, pro-choice people post on those forums too. So what does that make them?
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posted on
06/01/2009 1:24:25 PM PDT
by
pray4liberty
(http://www.foundersvalues.com/)
To: gitmo
To: wagglebee
I predict that he will be put on the fast track to lethal injection, just like Tim McVeigh....
To: Borges
How did a convicted felon get a gun. This cat was in prison before was was ‘nutz’.
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posted on
06/01/2009 1:26:06 PM PDT
by
ASOC
(Who IS that fat lady, and why is she singing?????)
To: wagglebee
I hope he gets off on insanity.
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posted on
06/01/2009 1:28:11 PM PDT
by
exist
To: Borges
oh, they’ll go another route -
anyone with conservative beliefs is by definition mentally ill and therefore cannot own a firearm.
I hear “amens” from DU.
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posted on
06/01/2009 1:28:20 PM PDT
by
MrB
(Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
To: wagglebee
something is seriously wrong with this set of circumstances.
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posted on
06/01/2009 1:29:02 PM PDT
by
fortunate sun
(Tell me what books you want to ban and I'll tell you what type of politics you hold.)
To: ASOC
The conviction was overturned on grounds of an illegal search, according to earlier posts.
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posted on
06/01/2009 1:29:13 PM PDT
by
Lucius Cornelius Sulla
("men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." -- Edmund Burke)
To: gitmo
No, the past tense seems to refer to the mental illness. Just because someone was mentally ill a decade ago does not mean they still are.
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posted on
06/01/2009 1:30:35 PM PDT
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: ASOC
How did a convicted felon get a gun. The Kansas Court of Appeals overturned his conviction.
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posted on
06/01/2009 1:30:50 PM PDT
by
Cooter
To: wagglebee
Oh well, that makes it all better!
Now he is not just a terrorist, but a crazy terrorist.
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posted on
06/01/2009 1:31:53 PM PDT
by
trumandogz
(The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
To: wagglebee
This event has all the possibility of a major left wing media coup. The possibilities are endless: his public confession; appearing in court wearing a baggy suit; a carefully selected judge uttering wise statements blaming "teachers of hate;" his public apology- including statements as to how he has been led astray- perhaps even a redemption just before his scheduled execution. "The Divine One" on television commuting his death sentence after pleas by the decedents friends and/or family.
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posted on
06/01/2009 1:32:37 PM PDT
by
AEMILIUS PAULUS
(It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
To: wagglebee
That’s what I mean, Wag...they’re leading up to it.
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posted on
06/01/2009 1:32:47 PM PDT
by
pray4liberty
(http://www.foundersvalues.com/)
To: wagglebee
To: wagglebee
Being mentally ill DOES NOT mean a person is legally insane. No, but it's still a plea in Court, like it or not.
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posted on
06/01/2009 1:37:26 PM PDT
by
pray4liberty
(http://www.foundersvalues.com/)
To: trumandogz
To: MrB
anyone with conservative beliefs is by definition mentally ill and therefore cannot own a firearm. I hear amens from DU.
Combine that with 'Liberalism is a mental disorder' and the government can take way all our firearms...
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posted on
06/01/2009 1:38:48 PM PDT
by
null and void
(We are now in day 133 of our national holiday from reality.)
To: pray4liberty
My guess is that this guy WANTS to plead guilty.
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posted on
06/01/2009 1:40:37 PM PDT
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: wagglebee
Maybe he is as “insane” as a Andrea Yates was. Will the ACLU will come to his defense?
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posted on
06/01/2009 1:41:31 PM PDT
by
Ol' Sparky
(Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
To: gitmo
To: gitmo
To: wagglebee
My guess is that this guy WANTS to plead guilty. He needs to plea Islam, killing Tiller in the name of Allah. That'll get them all going.
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posted on
06/01/2009 1:48:09 PM PDT
by
pray4liberty
(http://www.foundersvalues.com/)
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To: wagglebee
We know Scott as a kind and loving son, brother and father who suffered from mental illness at various times in his life,SSRIs ?
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
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posted on
06/01/2009 1:54:42 PM PDT
by
Uri’el-2012
(Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
To: MrB
anyone with conservative beliefs is by definition mentally ill and therefore cannot own a firearm. Some are prevented from capitalization as well.
Must be hell, having to write like a little kid...
To: XeniaSt
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posted on
06/01/2009 2:00:05 PM PDT
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: humblegunner
I can only assume that
a) you misunderstood that I was referring to a tactic of the left
or
b) have nothing better to comment about than someone’s typing/posting style.
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posted on
06/01/2009 2:02:11 PM PDT
by
MrB
(Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
To: Morgana
Either way....legally insane or mentally ill there were people out there who knew he need help and just let him walk around. It's not for lack of trying. Existing laws make it extremely tough for concerned family members to get help for other family members that have mental issues and who refuse to cooperate. You can't have someone declared incompetent or insane without due process of law. You can't force them into psychiatric treatment against their will.
The law states they have to be an imminent danger to themselves or others, but if they haven't done anything, just mouthing off, you still have no just cause. Maybe this NAMI article will help you understand what we're up against:
http://www.namide.org/pages/advocacy-public_%20policy_platform_invcomm.php
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posted on
06/01/2009 2:05:18 PM PDT
by
pray4liberty
(http://www.foundersvalues.com/)
To: wagglebee
It’s because of the bleeding hearts that crazy people aren’t in the nut house like they were when I was a kid. Now they just roam around as they please talking to themselves and their imaginary friends.
To: MrB
Write like a grown-up and I’ll shut up about it.
To: humblegunner
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posted on
06/01/2009 2:13:39 PM PDT
by
MrB
(Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
To: Borges
“If this line of inquiry keeps up then the story will become ‘How did a mentally ill man get a gun?’
And then that will become, all gun owners are mentally ill.
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posted on
06/01/2009 2:16:03 PM PDT
by
pallis
To: devolve; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; dixiechick2000; Lady Jag; wagglebee; All; yorkie; ...
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posted on
06/01/2009 2:19:43 PM PDT
by
potlatch
To: MrB
To: Morgana
You ever try to “do” something about a mentally ill person before they hurt someone (or themselves)?
The criminal revolving door has got nothing on the mentally ill revolving door. It flings them back out on an unsuspecting public at machine gun velocity.
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posted on
06/01/2009 2:24:04 PM PDT
by
Valpal1
(Always be prepared to make that difference.)
To: potlatch
.
Outstanding potlatch
Perspective
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posted on
06/01/2009 2:24:30 PM PDT
by
devolve
( . . . . . . . . Obama confiscated Teacher & Police Union pension funds? . . . . . . . . . . . . .)
To: wagglebee
They can portray us however they like. They already frame us like right-wing extremists anyway. When the last killing or bombing took place, the pro-life movement was set for a backlash, and it never happened. The current polling is in our favor right now.
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posted on
06/01/2009 2:25:02 PM PDT
by
murron
(Proud Marine Mom)
To: devolve
Thanks devolve. I liked my results, don’t know if others will.
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posted on
06/01/2009 2:28:46 PM PDT
by
potlatch
To: potlatch
.
Outrage at your .gif will prove self-defeating
Well conceived graphic
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posted on
06/01/2009 2:32:41 PM PDT
by
devolve
( . . . . . . . . Obama confiscated Teacher & Police Union pension funds? . . . . . . . . . . . . .)
To: wagglebee
No sale. He was smart enough to plan the crime. Fry him!
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posted on
06/01/2009 2:33:20 PM PDT
by
dfwgator
(The Huskies are Gator Bait!)
To: wagglebee
He’s liberal... of course he has a mental condition.
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posted on
06/01/2009 2:33:22 PM PDT
by
snowrip
(Liberal? YOU ARE A GUTLESS SOCIALIST LOSER WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
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