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Cynicism of pro-gun lobby obscene
Capital Times ^ | 6/01/2009 | Dave Zweifel

Posted on 06/01/2009 4:05:56 PM PDT by SJackson

This is why the American people believe Congress is among the country's sleaziest institutions.

Recently when the Senate and House were debating the bill to make credit card companies more accountable and to stop them from arbitrarily changing the rules for their customers, Sen. Tom Coburn, the right-wing flamethrower from Oklahoma, decided that this would be a perfect opportunity to play some mischief.

Coburn has been trying for the past couple of years to allow people to carry concealed weapons in our national parks, but even when his party had more power than now, he couldn't get that proposal passed. Understandably, many politicians wondered what in the world was the public interest in allowing weapons in the parks.

Undaunted, Coburn cynically introduced an amendment to the popular credit card bill that would do just that.

He figured -- correctly, as it turns out -- that he would be able to get his amendment attached to the credit card bill with help from his Republican colleagues and a handful of Western state pro-gun Democrats. That would then force the members of Congress who favor some control on guns to either kill the long-awaited credit card reforms or approve them along with the completely unrelated provision to allow guns in the parks.

Likewise, President Barack Obama would have to live with the amendment unless he was willing to veto the credit card reforms.

That's, of course, what happened.

But it has left a bad taste in the mouths of not only many members of Congress, but citizens who believe this isn't the way democracy ought to work. If you want to allow guns in the parks, then vote on it. If you want credit card reform, vote on it. What kind of parliamentary system allows two completely unrelated matters to be joined?

Unfortunately, this is just one example of how the gun lobby plans on getting its way this congressional session. A bill that would give the District of Columbia a representative in Congress, another popular measure, has already been derailed because a gun proposal was attached to it. Other Republican gun zealots are preparing other pro-gun measures to attach to similar bills.

The cynicism is nothing short of obscene. One Republican has already chortled that this is the way the pro-gun lobby will re-enact virtually all the Bush administration gun policies before they're done. Apparently, the 2008 election didn't count for the National Rifle Association and its allies.

The irony may come when the NRA puppets in Congress succeed in adding a pro-gun amendment to whatever health coverage reform legislation eventually emerges this year.

That, at least, would be appropriate. For our unlimited love affair with guns has always added significantly to our nation's health care costs.


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The events of yesterday and today seem to point to the necessity of concealed carry. And no, I wouldn't have a problem if someone had put a bullet in Tiller's murderer, before or after. Perhaps uniformed military should carry sidearms at all times, we're about to become Israel.
1 posted on 06/01/2009 4:05:56 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson

Oh and the part where a judge said we can’t have guns in National Parks without doing an “environmental impact study” isn’t obscene?

At least the GOP actually put it into a LAW instead of some appointee making their own law from the bench.


2 posted on 06/01/2009 4:10:13 PM PDT by Domandred (Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.)
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To: SJackson
"this isn't the way democracy ought to work."

Yeah, RIGHT!

This is the kind of tactic, that the Dems use all the time.

So, apparently, democracy is only supposed to work like this, when they do it.

3 posted on 06/01/2009 4:10:47 PM PDT by ChicagahAl (Don't blame me. I voted for Sarah.)
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To: SJackson

The man was shot in a church, many states have “no carry” laws with regards to churches or allow churches to self declare “no carry”.

The murder in the church was wrong but the law would have most likely protected the shooter.

An armed society is a polite society.


4 posted on 06/01/2009 4:13:17 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: SJackson
BARFORAMA!

5 posted on 06/01/2009 4:14:51 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: SJackson
What kind of parliamentary system allows two completely unrelated matters to be joined?

The kind of parliamentary system that the Dems have been reveling in for decades.

6 posted on 06/01/2009 4:16:18 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: longtermmemmory
The murder in the church was wrong but the law would have most likely protected the shooter.

IMO that's a bad law, though individual institutions should have that option. A pass on prosecution would certainly be given to someone saving a prominent abortionists life, maybe a medal. In other circumstances, I wouldn't count on it, but a response is better than being the second victim.

7 posted on 06/01/2009 4:16:51 PM PDT by SJackson (in the fight against terrorism, no middle ground, half-measures leave you half-exposed, D. Cheney)
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To: SJackson
Please the Dems have done the same and WAAAYY worse over the years. I was actually happy to see it shoved up their butts.
8 posted on 06/01/2009 4:17:01 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit (Two terms for politicians, one in office, one in jail.))
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To: SuperLuminal
BARFORAMA!

No, progressives.

9 posted on 06/01/2009 4:22:45 PM PDT by SJackson (in the fight against terrorism, no middle ground, half-measures leave you half-exposed, D. Cheney)
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To: DuncanWaring; mad_as_he$$

Yes, it’s the system, which dems have used extensively. But it’s their system, because it’s their country. Obama won the election, after all.


10 posted on 06/01/2009 4:24:31 PM PDT by SJackson (in the fight against terrorism, no middle ground, half-measures leave you half-exposed, D. Cheney)
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Geez, I’m having a hard time reading between the lines here. I wonder if this author is pro or anti-gun?


11 posted on 06/01/2009 4:26:02 PM PDT by umgud (Look to gov't to solve your everday problems and they'll control your everday life.)
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Understandably, many politicians wondered what in the world was the public interest in allowing weapons in the parks.

What a crock. People are mugged, robbed, raped, and murdered in parks all the time - both local and national.

Self defense is a God given right.

12 posted on 06/01/2009 4:27:10 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: umgud

He’s anti.


13 posted on 06/01/2009 4:28:59 PM PDT by SJackson (in the fight against terrorism, no middle ground, half-measures leave you half-exposed, D. Cheney)
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To: SJackson

I was being a bit sarcastic.


14 posted on 06/01/2009 4:30:03 PM PDT by umgud (Look to gov't to solve your everday problems and they'll control your everday life.)
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To: Iowa Granny; Ladysmith; Diana in Wisconsin; JLO; sergeantdave; damncat; phantomworker; joesnuffy; ..
If you’d like to be on or off this Upper Midwest/outdoors/rural list please FR mail me. And ping me is you see articles of interest.

Maybe a little off topic, but of regional interest.

15 posted on 06/01/2009 4:30:31 PM PDT by SJackson (in the fight against terrorism, no middle ground, half-measures leave you half-exposed, D. Cheney)
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To: SJackson
Seems Dave was playing with his Zweifel while writing this drivel.
16 posted on 06/01/2009 4:32:47 PM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: SJackson
The cynicism is nothing short of obscene.

And all the crap that was added to the Porkulus Bill wasn't obscene?.........LOL!

17 posted on 06/01/2009 4:37:46 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This country isn't going to hell in a handbasket, it's riding shotgun in an Indy car....)
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To: SJackson

My thoughts also.


18 posted on 06/01/2009 4:42:34 PM PDT by metesky (My retirement fund is holding steady @ $.05 a can.)
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To: SJackson
Methinks the laddie doth protest too much.

If this is the first time our author has encountered this very common practice he really needs to get out more.

19 posted on 06/01/2009 4:44:44 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Hot Tabasco
And all the crap that was added to the Porkulus Bill wasn't obscene?.........LOL!

That was stimulus.

20 posted on 06/01/2009 4:47:35 PM PDT by SJackson (in the fight against terrorism, no middle ground, half-measures leave you half-exposed, D. Cheney)
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