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Man arrested for threatening Obama
The Martinsburg Journal ^ | June 2, 2009 | Jenni Vincent

Posted on 06/02/2009 8:46:18 AM PDT by Ikemeister

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To: ShandaLear

“If the guy had not made the threats, he would not have been arrested.”

What threats?

Hank


121 posted on 06/03/2009 8:55:11 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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To: awake-n-angry

Whan the law is immoral, it is immoral to obey the law.

Government’s laws are just the dictates of men—most of whom are goons and thieves. Anyone who cannot distinguish between laws and morality is immoral to the core.

As for the “system,” how’s that working out?

We have more police and law enforcement agencies (and the most expensive) in the world. If the system worked, there would be no crime. We also have the largest prison population of any country in the world (by several times). How come?

So much for your draconian laws. They don’t work, but they sure make the life of every decent working individual miserable, and those who inforce them have to shut their eyes to the oppression of decent people they know most laws are.

Hank


122 posted on 06/03/2009 9:07:33 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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To: ShandaLear

“I repeat, no arrests would have been made if there wasn’t a report of threats being made.”

...a REPORT of threats being made...

So if one of your neighbors takes a disliking to you and calls the police reporting that you were making threats against president, you’ll be OK with a swatt team coming to your home and dragging you jail to question you?

Mind telling us where you live?

Hank


123 posted on 06/03/2009 9:14:37 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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To: tcrlaf

“You have a right to free speech, but not to shouting Fire in a crowded theater.”

Yes you do.

There is no law anywhere in this country that forbids shouting fire in a crowded theater. You do not have a right to disturb other patrons, however, but that’s not a speech matter, it’s a property matter.

Hank


124 posted on 06/03/2009 9:25:31 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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To: Hank Kerchief

I think that Bill Clinton would agree with you concerning laws. I however, feel an obligation to follow the law.


125 posted on 06/03/2009 9:41:28 AM PDT by awake-n-angry
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To: frog in a pot
The officer's oath is: "I, _____ (SSAN), having been appointed an officer in the Army of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God." (DA Form 71, 1 August 1959, for officers.) Faith and allegiance to the Constitution, not to any individual including the president. That continuing faithfulness or fealty is to the Constitution. The enlisted oath has a notable addition: ...and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. which says they will obey orders ... according to regulations and the UCMJ, not specifically to a man but to the lawful orders of those above. Enlisted are no more bound to obey an unlawful order than are officers. Enlisted members these days are not mindless followers, they are educated and informed (for the most part). I swore to both oaths both as an enlisted NCO as well as commissioned officer and all of my contemporaries knew the difference between a lawful order and one that was not. We are pretty much in agreement except that the fealty or faithfulness to duty is to the Constitution and the lawful orders that flow from the Constitution and not from the mouth of this Nazi ass of a president.
126 posted on 06/03/2009 10:25:12 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: RJS1950

“Enlisted are no more bound to obey an unlawful order...”

Nowhere do I contend they are.

“Enlisted members these days are not mindless followers, they are educated and informed (for the most part).”

Nonetheless, they are not held to the same high legal standards applicable to commissioned officers.

“...this Nazi ass of a president.”

Agreed.


127 posted on 06/03/2009 11:08:52 AM PDT by frog in a pot (Socialism - facism is inconsistent with the Constitution and is one of the "domestic enemies".)
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To: awake-n-angry

Hope all your neighbors know that you are good little obedient citizen of the US Reich, and when the law says you must report your neighbors activities to the authorities, you’ll feel obliged to follow the law.

The founders of this country were all law-breakers. It’s your attitude that makes a society ripe for dictatorship.

Hank


128 posted on 06/03/2009 11:19:33 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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