Obama's Speech in Cairo, Egypt [LIVE THREAD]

FoxNews ^ | 6-4-09 | GRRRRR

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Obama doing more of what Russia wants...

From today's speech:

"fed by colonialism that denied rights and opportunities to many Muslims, and a Cold War in which Muslim-majority countries were often treated as proxies without regard to their own aspirations". ....

"No single nation should pick and choose which nations hold nuclear weapons. That is why I strongly reaffirmed America’s commitment to seek a world in which no nations hold nuclear weapons."

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Barack-Obama-US-President-Addresses-The-Muslim-World-From-Egypt/Article/200906115295746?lpos=World_News_Carousel_Region_2&lid=ARTICLE_15295746_Barack_Obama%3A_US_President_Addresses_The_Muslim_World_From_Egypt
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From David Horowitz's FrontPageMag.com/DiscoverTheNetworks.org:
Profile: Institute For Policy Studies (IPS)

IPS’s [Institute For Policy Studies] Washington, DC headquarters quickly became a resource center for national reporters and a place for KGB agents from the nearby Soviet embassy to convene and strategize. Cora Weiss headed one of the IPS's most successful forays -- into Riverside Church in Manhattan. She was invited there in 1978 by the Reverend William Sloane Coffin to run the church's Disarmament Program, which sought to consolidate Soviet nuclear superiority in Europe -- in the name of "peace." In 1982 Weiss helped organize the largest pro-disarmament demonstration ever held. Staged in New York City, the rally was attended by a coalition of communist organizations. During her decade-long tenure at Riverside, which became home to the National Council of Churches, Weiss regularly received Russian KGB agents, Sandinista friends, and Cuban intelligence agents. Weiss became infamous for her role in the psychological warfare conducted against U.S. prisoners of war held in the infamous "Hanoi Hilton" during the Vietnam War.

The Liberation News Service, which is a news source for hundreds of "alternative" publications nationwide (with antiwar, Marxist-oriented perspectives), was founded in 1967 with IPS assistance."

[lots more at link...]

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6991
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From the website of Riverside Church...

The Riverside Church
490 Riverside Drive
New York, New York 10027
212-870-6700

The Riverside Church is located on Manhattan’s Upper West Side near Columbia University.

http://www.theriversidechurchny.org/about/?directions
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"She was invited there in 1978 by the Reverend William Sloane Coffin to run the church's Disarmament Program, which sought to consolidate Soviet nuclear superiority in Europe -- in the name of 'peace.'

In 1982 Weiss helped organize the largest pro-disarmament demonstration ever held. Staged in New York City, the rally was attended by a coalition of communist organizations."
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6991
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From the Columbia University website...

"Obama attended Columbia College from 1981 to 1983"

Source:
http://news.columbia.edu/home/1260

Here is a (long) link to a cached version of the source with quote highlighted. Caches are often good backups when an original source is taken down and/or replaced:
http://74.6.239.67/search/cache?ei=UTF-8&p=%22Obama+attended+Columbia+College+from+1981+to+1983%22&fr=moz2&u=news.columbia.edu/barack-obama-cc83-first-columbia-graduate-elected-president-united-states&w=%22obama+attended+columbia+college+from+1981+to+1983%22&d=HQg1KJ2uSeBR&icp=1&.intl=us
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Obama and the case of the missing 'thesis'
By Jim Popkin, NBC News Senior Investigative Producer
July 24, 2008

excerpt:

The hunt for Obama’s senior “thesis” began with a throwaway line in a newspaper article last October. The New York Times story, on Obama’s early New York years, mentioned in passing that the presidential contender had majored in political science at Columbia and had spent his time “writing his thesis on Soviet nuclear disarmament.”

Journalists began hounding Columbia University for copies of the musty document. Conservative bloggers began wondering if the young Obama had written a no-nukes screed that he might come to regret. And David Bossie, the former congressional investigator and “right-wing hit man,” as one newspaper described him, took out classified newspaper ads in Columbia University’s newspaper and the Chicago Tribune in March searching for the term paper.

Bossie came up dry, but said the effort was well worth it:

“A thesis entitled Soviet Nuclear Disarmament, written at the height of The Cold War in 1983, might shed some light upon what Barack Obama thought about our most pressing foreign policy issue for 40-plus years (U.S.-Soviet Relations),” he wrote in an e-mail to NBC News.

http://deepbackground.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/07/24/1219454.aspx
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Here is the passage from the New York Times that the above article refers to:

"He barely mentions Columbia, training ground for the elite, where he transferred in his junior year, majoring in political science and international relations and writing his thesis on Soviet nuclear disarmament. He dismisses in one sentence his first community organizing job — work he went on to do in Chicago — though a former supervisor remembers him as 'a star performer.'"

[snip]

"he [Obama] declined repeated requests to talk about his New York years, release his Columbia transcript or identify even a single fellow student, co-worker, roommate or friend from those years.

'He doesn’t remember the names of a lot of people in his life,' said Ben LaBolt, a campaign spokesman."

Obama’s Account of New York Years Often Differs From What Others Say
By JANNY SCOTT, October 30, 2007:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/30/us/politics/30obama.html?ex=1351396800&en=631bf83f428647f9&ei=5089&partner=rssyahoo&emc=rss

[wita]

Mussolini’s bio is advance warning enough. One can already see the wrath of the American people rising to the surface. Obama, makes WJC look like the womanizer he is, a political pussy cat in comparison. With no place to run, or hide, the rest of the American people better wake up soon, to the reality of Law. I speak of the laws of Nature, God, economics, science, life, morality, freedom, liberty.

Those laws, when based on truth, are written in stone, fixed, immutable, unchanging, relevant, necessary, life saving, and the mainstay of a society. When those laws are manipulated by man to suit his pleasure warped, and feeble mind, the society is soon to become as warped and feeble as the mind that hatched the manipulation.

What follows is sack cloth and ashes, or the complete destruction of the society and its people. The good go down with the rest of society, only turning back to the true and living God can save them or US.

[maica]

It was also President George W Bush who first made these statements:
(from today’s speech)

The first issue that we have to confront is violent extremism in all of its forms.

In Ankara, I made clear that America is not — and never will be — at war with Islam. We will, however, relentlessly confront violent extremists who pose a grave threat to our security. Because we reject the same thing that people of all faiths reject: the killing of innocent men, women, and children. And it is my first duty as President to protect the American people.

The situation in Afghanistan demonstrates America’s goals, and our need to work together. Over seven years ago, the United States pursued al Qaeda and the Taliban with broad international support. We did not go by choice, we went because of necessity. I am aware that some question or justify the events of 9/11. But let us be clear: al Qaeda killed nearly 3,000 people on that day. The victims were innocent men, women and children from America and many other nations who had done nothing to harm anybody. And yet Al Qaeda chose to ruthlessly murder these people, claimed credit for the attack, and even now states their determination to kill on a massive scale. They have affiliates in many countries and are trying to expand their reach. These are not opinions to be debated; these are facts to be dealt with.

Make no mistake: we do not want to keep our troops in Afghanistan. We seek no military bases there. It is agonizing for America to lose our young men and women. It is costly and politically difficult to continue this conflict. We would gladly bring every single one of our troops home if we could be confident that there were not violent extremists in Afghanistan and Pakistan determined to kill as many Americans as they possibly can. But that is not yet the case.

That’s why we’re partnering with a coalition of forty-six countries. And despite the costs involved, America’s commitment will not weaken. Indeed, none of us should tolerate these extremists. They have killed in many countries. They have killed people of different faiths — more than any other, they have killed Muslims. Their actions are irreconcilable with the rights of human beings, the progress of nations, and with Islam. The Holy Koran teaches that whoever kills an innocent, it is as if he has killed all mankind; and whoever saves a person, it is as if he has saved all mankind. The enduring faith of over a billion people is so much bigger than the narrow hatred of a few. Islam is not part of the problem in combating violent extremism — it is an important part of promoting peace.

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Today, America has a dual responsibility: to help Iraq forge a better future -– and to leave Iraq to Iraqis. I have made it clear to the Iraqi people that we pursue no bases, and no claim on their territory or resources. Iraq’s sovereignty is its own. That is why I ordered the removal of our combat brigades by next August. That is why we will honor our agreement with Iraq’s democratically-elected government to remove combat troops from Iraqi cities by July, and to remove all our troops from Iraq by 2012. We will help Iraq train its Security Forces and develop its economy. But we will support a secure and united Iraq as a partner, and never as a patron.

and on and on

[markomalley]

the most telling thing I heard was him telling radical muslims they need to stop killig innocents and the audience was silent, yet when he called for the settlements to stop, they jumped up applauding

I noticed the same thing throughout the entire speech myself. There was a lot of applause for the points where he advocated their position or kissed their asses, but it was a lot more muted than your typical Ø speech.

[maica]

Link to the transcript of the prepared remarks.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=104923292

[meandog]

Full of empty rhetoric and platitudes. Israel must “halt all settlements” for a peace to occur indeed. Ha! Would we have halted all settlement the greater Southwest after the Mexican War? How about the settlement of former American Indian land in the U.S. What he should have said is that Palestinians must be content to live under an Israeli government now and forever, the same way that American Indians are content to live in America and, much to our chagrin, former citizens of Mexico too.

[hoosiermama]

and 10 steps behind him!!!

On there date in NYC, he got out of the car, waved to the fans, moved through the crowd...MO got out on her own and followed...Sure didn’t look very loving or like a date.

[VRWCTexan]

Part of the speach:

....Israelis must acknowledge that just as Israel’s right to exist cannot be denied, neither can Palestine. The United States does not accept the legitimacy of continued Israeli settlements” on the West Bank and outskirts of Jerusalem, he said. “It is time for these settlements to stop.”

As for Jerusalem itself, he said it should be a “secure and lasting home for Jews and Christians and Muslims ...”

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090604/ap_on_go_pr_wh/obama

[Miss Didi]

Thankfully Michelle M. came on to knock some sense into the Friends...the swooning was too much.

[flaglady47]

“If you wouldn’t mind, could you elaborate on your opening commentary about him discussing his “Muslim roots”? I’m sure the state-run media will never allow these comments to see the light of day. Kind of like the images of the planes flying into buildings on 9-11.”

Here is the pertinent part of his speech re his Muslim roots:

“Part of this conviction is rooted in my own experience. I am a Christian, but my father came from a Kenyan family that includes generations of Muslims. As a boy, I spent several years in Indonesia and heard the call of the azaan at the break of dawn and the fall of dusk. As a young man, I worked in Chicago communities where many found dignity and peace in their Muslim faith.

As a student of history, I also know civilization’s debt to Islam. It was Islam - at places like Al-Azhar University - that carried the light of learning through so many centuries, paving the way for Europe’s Renaissance and Enlightenment. It was innovation in Muslim communities that developed the order of algebra; our magnetic compass and tools of navigation; our mastery of pens and printing; our understanding of how disease spreads and how it can be healed. Islamic culture has given us majestic arches and soaring spires; timeless poetry and cherished music; elegant calligraphy and places of peaceful contemplation. And throughout history, Islam has demonstrated through words and deeds the possibilities of religious tolerance and racial equality.

I know, too, that Islam has always been a part of America’s story. The first nation to recognize my country was Morocco. In signing the Treaty of Tripoli in 1796, our second President John Adams wrote, “The United States has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Muslims.” And since our founding, American Muslims have enriched the United States. They have fought in our wars, served in government, stood for civil rights, started businesses, taught at our Universities, excelled in our sports arenas, won Nobel Prizes, built our tallest building, and lit the Olympic Torch. And when the first Muslim-American was recently elected to Congress, he took the oath to defend our Constitution using the same Holy Koran that one of our Founding Fathers - Thomas Jefferson - kept in his personal library.

So I have known Islam on three continents before coming to the region where it was first revealed. That experience guides my conviction that partnership between America and Islam must be based on what Islam is, not what it isn’t. And I consider it part of my responsibility as President of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear.”

[awake-n-angry]

“Israel must “halt all settlements” for a peace to occur indeed.”
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The settlements are illegal under Israeli law and removal of the sttlements has always been Israeli policy. Additionally, the US policy, under Clinton, Bush and now Obama, has always been in support of Israel’s removal of settlements. No change in policy.

[popdonnelly]

This dude is going to wind up a leader without followers.

[jackv]

Someone yelled. “I love you”.
Of course he loved that.

[Dixie Yooper]

As far as I'm concerned, every time the palestinians or their Arab brothers fail to keep their end of any treaty with Israel, Israel should push back, reoccupy and settle the lands taken during the 1982 war with Sierra and the PLO in Lebanon. If the palestinians and Arabs can't live with that, Israel should retake the Sinai Peninsula and then give the palestinians a 20 mile strip along the entire east bank of the Suez Canal. Let them be partners with Egypt on keeping the Canal open.

[VA40]

That was the most disgusting line I heard. His duty is to garner good will for AMERICANS not ISLAM. WTF!!

[StarFan]

I missed Michelle's comments but believe they may have closely paralleled those of the NY Post. Great read link

[PghBaldy]

So what good has Islam done in the last few hundred years?

[pburgh01]

Well then what was your point sport? Educate me, that gypsies, homosexuals and other undesirables were liquidated. Well give him a bozo button. But don’t get all cagey and cowardly and now back off your position. You got the random mouth diarrhea hero in this thread not me. You just couldn’t help yourself and chime in with that anti-Jew nonsense. I have Jewish blood in my veins and have family members that were killed at places like Auschwitz, Dachau and in the fields of Sobibor. I have also had JEWISH family members who died in the countryside of France in 1944 fighting for Uncle Sam so ignoramuses like you can post here and lecture us on the Holocaust. We have been hearing veiled outrage about the supposed disinformation by the likes of cranks like you for 60 years now. About how some Zionist world conspiracy has suppressed the truth and through its toadies in the media to deliberately try and play the martyr card. Save it junior and go back to arguing about something you know something about not parroting some meme spewed by hate filled Arian Brotherhood types.

[STARWISE]

Great post!

[meandog]

The settlements are illegal under Israeli law and removal of the sttlements has always been Israeli policy. Additionally, the US policy, under Clinton, Bush and now Obama, has always been in support of Israel’s removal of settlements. No change in policy.

Settlement of Dakota Indian territory after the 1851 Treaty of Fort Laramie was illegal also...

My point is that there is scant little Israeli land available IF the founding document of Israel that specifically guarantees every world Jew a homeland is adhered to...the land was conquered by Israel, furthermore it was bequeathed to Jew by God. I could care less where the Palestinians eventually go ... indeed, there is plenty of space in the empty quarter of Saudi Arabia for a Palestinian homeland!