Posted on 06/05/2009 8:45:53 AM PDT by Reagan Man
if PJB understood and knew YHvH,shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
he would have a different understanding of Israel
and it's right to land given to Israel by YHvH.
“That is about the most asinine statement I have ever read on this forum. Not to mention very insulting. “
I’m not surprised that you feel that way. It is true, however.
Pat is solid on life, judges, borders, affirmative action... His prior speeches on the despicable UN are fantastic. However, his apparent hatred for Israel borders on an obsession. He dedicates so much ink to bashing Israel reflexively that he comes off sounding like Jimmy Carter, or just another MSDNC analyst which is pretty much the same thing. Unfortunately, Pat spends so much time bashing Israel that it takes time away from issues like life, borders, affirmative action...where he makes the most sense. It appears that he will tolerate anyone, no matter how despicable they are, as long as they do something nasty to Israel.
From the blog link. LMAO. Buchanan a shill for the chicoms and he is not an American Firster?? Someone has not been reading Pat's columns or they hate him so much they lie about him. Pay has been screaming for years about China and it's threat to our way of life and businesses.
You can’t read. Chas Freeman is a paid agent. Buchanan shilled for him because he hated Israel, ignoring Freemans ties to enemy regimes. Pats overiding loyalty is opposing Israel. He sees nothing else and contradicts himself because of his grievance politics.
Almost 80 percent?
The west bank used to be Jordanian territory. They would refuse to take any of it back.
“I like Pat but I don’t get his hated of Israel.”
Pat has much in common with Mel Gibson. Both of them were raised by very traditionalist Catholic fathers who were also very anti-semitic. Pat’s father was a follower of Father Coughlin, a fiery Catholic radio priest (1920s and 30s, mainly), especially listened to by Irish Catholics. Father Coughlin was extremely anti-semitic, and Pat was heavily influenced by his father and Father Coughlin’s philosophy. Google Father Coughlin and look into his background on Wikipedia. His background is a historical eye opener.
Mel Gibson’s father was equally vociferous in his beliefs which have heavily influenced Mel as well. Mel’s father is a sedevacantist, a schismatic group of Catholics that believe that Vatican II was illegitimate because of the changes it made to the way the Catholic faith is practiced, and therefore considers the Popes elected since Vatican II as illegitimate (sedevacantist means vacant seat (the post-Vatican II Popes’ seats that is). Here is an excerpt from Wiki regarding Father Coughlin so you can get a flavor of what Pat was weaned on:
“After the 1936 election, Coughlin increasingly expressed sympathy for the fascist policies of Hitler and Mussolini as an antidote to Bolshevism.[15] His CBS radio broadcasts became suffused with antisemitic themes. He blamed the Depression on an “international conspiracy of Jewish bankers”, and also claimed that Jewish bankers were behind the Russian Revolution. On November 27, 1938, he said “There can be no doubt that the Russian Revolution ... was launched and fomented by distinctively Jewish influence.”
He began publication of a newspaper, Social Justice, during this period, in which he printed antisemitic polemics such as The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. Like Joseph Goebbels, Coughlin claimed that Marxist atheism in Europe was a Jewish plot. The December 5, 1938 issue of Social Justice included an article by Coughlin which closely resembled a speech made by Goebbels on September 13, 1935 attacking Jews, atheists and communists, with some sections being copied verbatim by Coughlin from an English translation of the Goebbels speech. At a rally in the Bronx in 1938, he gave a Nazi salute and said, “When we get through with the Jews in America, they’ll think the treatment they received in Germany was nothing.” [16]
On November 20, 1938, two weeks after Kristallnacht, when Jews across Germany were attacked and killed, and Jewish businesses, homes and synagogues burned, Coughlin said “Jewish persecution only followed after Christians first were persecuted.”[17] After this speech, and as his programs became more antisemitic, some radio stations, including those in New York and Chicago, began refusing to air his speeches without pre-approved scripts; in New York, his programs were cancelled by WINS and WMCA, leaving Coughlin to broadcasting on the Newark part-time station WHBI. This made Coughlin a hero in Nazi Germany, where papers ran headlines claiming “America Is Not Allowed to Hear the Truth”. On December 18, 1938 two thousand of Coughlin’s followers marched in New York protesting potential asylum law changes that would allow more Jews (including refugees from Hitler’s persecution) into the US, chanting, “Send Jews back where they came from in leaky boats!” and “Wait until Hitler comes over here!” The protests continued for several months. Donald Warren, using information from the FBI and German government archives, has also argued that Coughlin received indirect funding from Nazi Germany during this period.[18]
After 1936, Coughlin began supporting an organization called the Christian Front, which claimed him as an inspiration. In January 1940, the Christian Front was shut down when the FBI discovered the group was arming itself and “planning to murder Jews, communists, and ‘a dozen Congressmen’”[19] and eventually establish, in J. Edgar Hoover’s words, “a dictatorship, similar to the Hitler dictatorship in Germany”. Coughlin publicly stated, after the plot was discovered, that he still did not “disassociate himself from the movement”, and though he was never linked directly to the plot, his reputation suffered a fatal decline.[20] ....
At its peak in the early 1930s, Coughlin’s radio show was phenomenally popular. His office received up to 80,000 letters per week from listeners, and his listening audience was estimated to rise at times to as much as a third of the nation. Coughlin is often credited as one of the major demagogues of the 20th century for being able to influence politics through broadcasting, without actually holding a political office himself.”
Leni
Very interesting. I appreciate the post!
Israel cannot afford to lose its lone last friend but it can afford to play cat and mouse with Obama until Obama is out of office, either in four or eight years. Israel cannot afford to be defiant or confrontational towards the United States but it can “play hard-to-get” by being evasive and playing for time. Meanwhile, Israel can make a few demands of its own, such as, first requiring the Arab states to assimilate the Palestinians living in their camps before even discussing the Gaza or the West Bank. This can be done with nice diplomatic talk. It is possible to be soft-spoken, diplomatic and stubborn at the same time. That is the route that Israel should take.
I think the US has been a false friend to Israel, starting with Carter. Israel naturally trusted the US, its long time ally, but when Carter and the other “peacemaker” presidents required Israel to make all of the concessions, Israel got nothing but violence and treachery in exchange for the false peace.
This time Israel should make its own terms of peace rather than waiting for the US or any other nation to come to its aid.
There is a propaganda war being waged on Israel by the Arabs and the international left. Israel should defend itself in this way. Israel has been a strong nation militarily but it has fallen behind in the propaganda war.
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