Did Obama Order George Tiller's Murder? (Article about FreeRepublic Alert)

Bliefnet ^ | June 1, 2009 | Steven Waldman

[Allison_Wonderland]

I believe the reason the story has fell off the radar screen is that the MSM does not want people to realize exactly what Tiller was doing. They have portrayed him as an “abortion doctor” which many people may still think was a provider of first trimester abortions.

Once people begin to realize that this man made millions of dollars killing fully formed fetuses most reasonable people will be disgusted.

Many people still do not understand exactly how third trimester abortions are performed. And the MSM does not want to risk them finding out.

[Minn]

Do you really care what scumbag leftists say about pro-lifers?

Actually, I care very much what scum bag leftists are able say that is believable to the broader middle. You know, the folks they pulled over the cliff with them last November? If you don't also care about that, then you have no clue how politics works. When a scumbag leftist only has to spend a little time perusing this site to extract the mother load of foolishness that he did, I care very much.

Last Sunday was the first time in over ten years of active participation on this site that I was genuinely ashamed of the what I read from fellow Freepers. The immaturity and inability to reason was very disappointing. We are fighting a major battle on for the very survival of the republic. Some of us here are handing those seeking to destroy everything we hold dear, the all the weapons and ammunition they need to permanently continue their stranglehold on power. Grow the hell up, would you?

Just imagine how much better it would have been if this character had come here seeking to find the idiotic comments he found, and instead come up empty. If I was JimRob, I'd have banned every one of you, for the good of the prolife cause, and conservatism in general.

[bereanway]

That’s a very difficult photo to view, but one that needs to be seen. What type of an individual would willingly engage for simple profit in a line of work with that being representative of its end result?

To starve would be a million times better than engaging in something so abhorrent.

[Shaun_MD]

Thank you. From what I’ve seen over the past few weeks, I’m about ready to opus myself out of here.

[Jeff Head]

Sadly, tragically, sometimes it takes a graphic shock to get people to realize the depth of depravity a set of circumstances has led to.

I derive no pleasure whatsoever from either seeing it, or posting it.

The holocaust pictures are graphic...but they burn through ALL of the rationalization of the apologists to that gruesome time in history.

This set of events is even more gruesome, and much more numerous. 50 million and more.

Like the holocaust pictures, anyone with a centilla of truth, justice, and virtue running through their veins, cannot view the truth of this practice (as difficult and unsavory as it is to view) and then come away calling it good..."lawful", "a woman's "choice"...once it is exposed exactly what that choice really involves.

Braveman: A apologize for any offense.

bereanway: Thanks for your kind words.

THE GRUESOME TRUTH OF THE ABORTION HOLOCAUST & THE DEATH OF DR. TILLER [Warning: A graphic photo of death & dismemberment]

[Vindibudd]

Come on, why don’t you post pictures of porn to show us how wrong that is, too? People that post pictures of aborted babies to people who ALREADY think abortion is wrong are sick. Maybe you think this gory photo is somehow AN AWESOME ARGUMENT, but it is NOT. It reminds me of the idiots that run around in public places flashing giant gorefests to children, scarring them for life, because OMG PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW. People DON’T need to see these pictures to be persuaded, the people that you are trying to reach already know that they are killing children, this sort of tactic does nothing to change their minds. Learn to make an argument with words. It will be more effective. Oh, if you used words, I don’t know what they are cause I had to squint my eyes to get past the COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY PHOTO.

[P-Marlowe]

Thanks Zakeet. I was expecting some of my comments on Tiller's execution to make it into the blogosphere.

I left the following comment for the bleeding hearted editor in chief of BelieveNot:

P-Marlowe

June 6, 2009 10:25 AM

There were a total of 56,000 human beings exterminated at Buchenwald. If you believe that a fetus with hands and feet and a beating heart is a human being, then by his own statements George Tiller exterminated 60,000 human beings in his clinic in Wichita. I suppose you would like it if people like me were all teary-eyed and choked up over Tiller's execution?

I don't know whether or not his killer was a Christian or just a fed up human being who was appalled by the slaughter of the innocents. I do know, however, that I will be praying that he is acquitted of any murder charges. I suppose there are a lot of Christians who can't wait for Tiller's killer to receive the same treatment that Tiller gave to the 60,000 innocent human beings that Tiller sent to their graves.

[Jeff Head]

See my post 25. Sorry you are offended. But there is nothing sick about it. Distateful, difficult to see, gruesome? Yes, yes, and yes. But it is not porn, and trying to equate the factual, gruesome death of a living child to porn is, IMHO, sick itself.

Would you equate the graphic holocaust pictures to porn? If you would, then there is no sense continuing any type of dialog.

The holocaust was a horrific genocide that had to be exposed for what it was. Abortion is the same.

[Ahithophel]

There once was a doctor from Wichita
Who aborted the children of patients he saw
And confronting his killer in church
Down the aisle this Tiller did lurch
Gurlging, “But it was legal under the law.”

[cybervyk]

You are perfectly able to leave any time someone’s comments offend you. No one is forcing you to stay.
How you like them apples?

[trisham]

Those pictures are extremely upsetting to me as well, which is why I am more and more avoiding threads about abortion.

[P-Marlowe]

Jeff, everytime I see one of those pictures, it shocks me just a little less than the last time.

Eventually I fear my senses will become immune to it.

Please try to be a little more judicious about posting pictures like that. You're preaching to the choir here.

[cybervyk]

I just suggested that Minn can leave the forum if Minn is upset. Sounds like you have one foot out of the door, the other would go pretty easily.
DLTDHYOTWO

[BuckeyeTexan]

You know, the folks they pulled over the cliff with them last November?

Nobody was pulled. They went knowingly and willingly. And good riddance. If they can't stand up for what's right and wrong through their votes, then I don't want them corrupting my party with their mediocre values.

If you don't also care about that, then you have no clue how politics works.

Trade my values for political votes? No thanks.

[Jeff Head]

P, as you know, there are tens of thosuands of lurkers on these threads who are not necessarily the choir, but I do apologize for any offense. It was not meant and I derive no pleasure or satisfaction from posting such a thing.

See my posts #25 and #28.

God bless you for your own stand.

[aruanan]

I suppose there are a lot of Christians who can't wait for Tiller's killer to receive the same treatment that Tiller gave to the 60,000 innocent human beings that Tiller sent to their graves.

SUPERMARKET MORALITY
or
"If I don't like it, I can always take it back."

Abortion is not a matter of "reproductive rights" or "women's issues" or "constitutional safeguards". It is a matter of selves grown so introverted, of wills of either gender become so fixated on their own fulfillment that the biological, social, and moral consequences of their own actions are set upon by them as infringements on their belief that the vine of reality ought to grow exclusively up the trellis of their own will. It is a matter of selves under the delusion that they are most fully "human" when they are most fully freed from nature's and society's demand that they be either male or female, enjoy (or at least acknowledge) the difference, and accept the consequences.

For them reality therapy is to throw everyone else onto the couch.

Too bizarre to be mistaken for anything else but the condition of a diseased spirit is the dichotomy of thought manifested in the appeal, on the one hand, to the poor, illiterate, unloved, socially-disadvantaged, abused and abusing bastard of incestuous rape who will only be an additional drain on an already overpopulated planet unless he/she/it should first agonizingly die from a genetic defect inherited from parents too selfish and insensitive toward it, toward themselves, and toward the welfare of society to prevent its suffering by means of a "therapeutic" abortion; and, on the other hand, to Noble Woman, guardian and embodiment of Constitutional virtue, struggling to protect herself from the advances of a rapacious, patriarchal religion and society, to cast off the biological shackles slapped on her by a cruel and unjust evolution.

It is a rationale designed to justify any choice and to silence any criticism. It is an awfully big gun to pull out for something they allege to be merely a medical decision between a woman and her physician. To remove or not to remove a wart is a decision on that level.

And here is where the slip shows--although they claim (or want to believe) that doing it is nothing, attempting to prevent, to limit, or even to talk first about their doing it is everything.

"Hey! Get the hell off of my will! Just who do you think you are to attempt to even think about imposing your morality on me? Besides, can't you see how much I'm suffering?" they say while imposing something far more severe than morality on those who literally depend on them for life.

To put it even more into perspective, imagine a bumper sticker reading: My fetus was chosen Unviable Tissue Mass of the Month at the Me-First Womyn's Health Center.

Even lab rats get more consideration.

Abortion is a denial. It is a denial of nature, of responsibility, of self-sacrifice, of love, and of life. And what is left? A will whose choices are unobstructed by any of the above.

"Well, that's done," they say, turning to pat and admire the shape of their uncoerced will. "Maybe I'll take this sweater back today, too."

[muawiyah]

Typical of the leftists I must say ~ first silence the messenger. We will mount a major prayer vigil for you to see if you can be pulled back from the brink of the Abyss.

When it comes to the "party of death" and their allies like George Tiller, it's perfectly sensible to think of them as "other than human", if only for your own self-protection.

Now, for your thoughts regarding the "broad middle" ~ ain't no such thing. We elect our representatives from "single member districts". Because of that the entirity of the electorate is forced to gravitate to one of two poles ~ some resist and they end up on "the fringe", not "the middle".

The description of our electoral map is called a "bi-modal saddle".

To win elections folks advocating on behalf of one pole must pull in voters from the other pole. Or, alternatively, figure out how to SUPPRESS THE VOTE for the other pole.

I think Obama succeeded in sucking in some from Republican circles, and at the same time scaring off many Conservatives with the complaint that George Bush and his crowd had spent too much, were soft on homosexuals, and had pi$$ed off the world. That's how he got more votes than McCain.

At the same time, by suppressing the vote he won many more Representatives to the House than he had anticipated.

It is up to us to encourage "the other pole of politics" to believe we are angry, fed up with their BS, and ready to roll. We must have succeeded if we could get this particular Leftwingtard, ol' what's his name, Wildman?, to bother reading our threads and classifying the comments. He may learn something.

[P-Marlowe]

Just imagine how much better it would have been if this character had come here seeking to find the idiotic comments he found, and instead come up empty. If I was JimRob, I'd have banned every one of you, for the good of the prolife cause, and conservatism in general.

Hey Minn, do you believe that Abortion is Murder? If so the Tiller committed 60,000 murders. He killed more human beings than the Nazi guards at Buchenwald.

Are you all teary eyed about Roeder performing a late term abortion on Tiller?

Would you like a hankie?

[prismsinc]

THAT WAS MY POST! MINE!

[muawiyah]

Nobody gets scarred for life. The human mind is quite resillient. We rise up from our baser natures. Maybe you didn’t but I have.